# Indians (India) in Western Culture **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 30, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015 "2014-08-30T23:14:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/41 "2014-09-14T22:34:55Z")
> [@IndianStones](#): > > I don’t need the personality you think is deserving of girlfriends, to have girlfriends. Obviously you do, or you wouldn’t be here whining at us. ---
**Author:** ![Amberlei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@Amberlei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amberlei)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/42 "2014-09-14T22:51:57Z")
> [@IndianStones](#): > > Ah, but how _attractive_ are the Western girls that date Indian guys? Not very, would be my guess. > > Because Indian men are the in the lowest rung of the racial social hierarchy of coolness in America. > > And yes, I’m superficial when it comes to this kinda thing. I don’t need the personality you think is deserving of girlfriends, to have girlfriends. I happen to have a latina friend who is drop-dead gorgeous and married to a man from India. He isn’t the most handsome man out there, by any means, but he’s kind, intelligent, and fun to be around. They complement each other and I’m glad that she’s got him in her life. She didn’t go around purposely looking for an Indian husband, any more than he went around purposely looking for a latina wife, though. They just happened to meet and mesh and things went from there. It seems to me as though you want any latina girl (as long as she’s attractive) instead of one particular girl who just so happens to be latina. If this is indeed the case, then as has been mentioned before, it’s rather creepy. Indian men, per se, are not at the bottom of the social hierarchy as you state. Creepy men (or women), of any ethnicity, take that position. ---
**Author:** ![IndianStones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ebca7d/32.png) [@IndianStones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IndianStones)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/43 "2014-09-14T23:56:22Z")
> [@Amberlei](#): > > Indian men, per se, are not at the bottom of the social hierarchy as you state. Oh yes they are! I don’t really want a Latina specifically, I just think they’re very commonly attractive. I’ll take any ethnicity, as long as I’m really attracted to her. I’ve noticed that even Indian girls in this country, who are very attractive, will happily reject Indian guys in favor of the more socially relevant races - which is every non-Indian race God I’m obsessed… but not really… ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/44 "2014-09-14T23:58:24Z")
> [@IndianStones](#): > > Ah, but how _attractive_ are the Western girls that date Indian guys? Not very, would be my guess. > > Because Indian men are the in the lowest rung of the racial social hierarchy of coolness in America. > > And yes, I’m superficial when it comes to this kinda thing. I don’t need the personality you think is deserving of girlfriends, to have girlfriends. Your guess, and three dollars, will get you an expresso at Dunkin Donuts. If you have any actual _evidence_ for your contention, let’s see it. Personal anecdotes are pretty useless. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/45 "2014-09-15T00:11:14Z")
> [@IndianStones](#): > > Ah, but how _attractive_ are the Western girls that date Indian guys? Not very, would be my guess. Be careful painting with that gigantic brush! You’ll put your back out! (I live in the “tech circle” near Boston. Indian-American couples aren’t at all uncommon. Everyone looks fine. Some are very attractive, some are average. You know, normal bell curve distribution.) ---
**Author:** ![IndianStones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ebca7d/32.png) [@IndianStones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IndianStones)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/46 "2014-09-15T00:20:32Z")
[http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=332599](http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=332599) Check out that black guy’s thread on an Indian Youth forum forget the penis size argument but everything else he says in on point. Indian guys can’t even get their own women, let alone other races we don’t know how to talk, etc. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/47 "2014-09-15T00:24:04Z")
Stop making excuses. Identify your shortcomings. Do your best to fix them. Go out and talk to real women. Act confident. Americans are big on ACTING confident even if you’re dying of fear inside. . . . . . . Or you can whinge here a bit more. ---
**Author:** ![IndianStones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ebca7d/32.png) [@IndianStones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IndianStones)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/48 "2014-09-15T00:31:41Z")
I’m not _really_ speaking for myself but I _am_ speaking for Indian males in America. I hate social injustices like this. Anyway, watch this video at the 10 minute mark. The Indian guy says what everyone here is saying. You’ll probably get a good laugh, if not information: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/P2ojpefxk6o/hqdefault.jpg "Yellow Fever") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ojpefxk6o) ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/49 "2014-09-15T00:41:36Z")
TL,DW Dude, really. Try this instead: 1. Make platonic friends with women you have no sexual compatibility. That’s right: deliberately get yourself “friend-zoned.” You might end up crushing on them despite the arrangement, some of them might later want more than you can give, but this is an exercise in being an adult. Go to Craigslist, pit an ad in the Strictly Platonic section, and then care about the women who write back to you as human brings. Plus it’s main goal is to take the stink of desperation off you. 2. If your mother is alive, and not impossibly far away, go back and reconnect with her now that you are two adults. You may think _this_ has nothing to do with _that,_ but really it’s where it all began. You should realize her as some lady who raised a son, and not the psychic imposition loaded upon you that’s now fucking up your self-esteem and your dating capital. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/50 "2014-09-15T02:28:49Z")
[![](http://i.qkme.me/3rscep.jpg) ](http://i.qkme.me/3rscep.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/51 "2014-09-15T02:35:19Z")
[![](http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b3b6821ec99489e1983e777a8fc8b26711cd872dfe8d70733ae5ee6778297297.jpg) ](http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b3b6821ec99489e1983e777a8fc8b26711cd872dfe8d70733ae5ee6778297297.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/52 "2014-09-15T02:47:49Z")
And so one of the stupidest topics ever posted to these boards somehow is revived. This whole thread is out of order. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/53 "2014-09-15T02:57:36Z")
> [@IndianStones](#): > > [http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=332599](http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=332599) > > Check out that black guy’s thread on an Indian Youth forum > > forget the penis size argument but everything else he says in on point. Indian guys can’t even get their own women, let alone other races > > we don’t know how to talk, etc. You realize, right, that Indian men outmarry more than Indian women? ---
**Author:** ![IndianStones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ebca7d/32.png) [@IndianStones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IndianStones)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/54 "2014-09-15T03:34:57Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > You realize, right, that Indian men outmarry more than Indian women? To attractive, highly desired women? I think not. Plus, it’s just because Indian men often make a lot of money. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/55 "2014-09-15T03:45:30Z")
> [@IndianStones](#): > > Because Indian men are the in the lowest rung of the racial social hierarchy of coolness in America. That’s about as silly as me saying that you’re the lowest rung because you all have those silly pompadour-ish haircuts and goofy mustaches. Seriously, any immigrant group anywhere has to assimilate, or they’re considered weird, and not really dateable. Look up the history of the Irish in American in the 19th century- as white as could be, but considered one tiny step above blacks in the social hierarchy for a LONG time. One thing I will say is that based on my experience working with quite a few Indians and having had about 30% of my grad school class composed of Indians, it seems like Indian culture is very sexist, and that doesn’t really play well in the US. So tone that business down, and dress and look less FOB, and you may have better luck than you think. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/56 "2014-09-15T03:49:07Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > [http://i.qkme.me/3rscep.jpg](http://i.qkme.me/3rscep.jpg) I agree, but why pick that guy? ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015/57 "2014-09-15T15:56:11Z")
> [@IndianStones](#): > > To attractive, highly desired women? I think not. > > Plus, it’s just because Indian men often make a lot of money. 1. Again, where’s the evidence? 2. Well, there’s part of the answer for you: work on your career, and once you start having status (professionally, financially, intellectually, or whatever), there will be a lot of girls attracted to high-status men. 3. Honestly, the difference is probably because women are more temperamentally conservative (and more religious) than men, so Hindu and Muslim women are probably less interested in dating outside their religion than Hindu and Muslim men. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indians-india-in-western-culture/697015.md?page=2)