# "Indivisible: A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911 "2016-12-17T05:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/21 "2016-12-17T16:14:02Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It would seem to counter the “you didn’t vote” nonsense, doesn’t it. That’s a lot of people ( 65.8 million) who “not voted”. Not really. The “you didn’t vote” was never a statement that "no one " voted. It was “not enough Democrats” voted. Do you think that’s not true? It’s amazing how some of you guys are so defensive about any little criticism directed at the party to the point where one wonders if you even care about winning at all, just so long as the narrative is that the Democrats _should have won_. Personally, I want the Democrats to win the presidency and yes, I damn well think not enough supporters got out and voted. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/22 "2016-12-17T18:02:00Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > This is the 15th thread you’ve started with the name “Trump” in the title in the last four months, not counting five other threads you started where you talk about him but didn’t mention his name in the title. > > Yeah, I know. I’m aware of the “Don’t like it? Don’t read it.” guideline. Just seems like there’s a new one every week or so from ya, though. : p Is this a “Oh, it’s Tuesday, I must start my regular thread about Donald Trump” sort of thing? We will keep talking about it because **it’s fucking important**. Did you not learn from your tone-deaf “I’m not gonna vote” thread that politics is important, and you know jack shit about it? I mean, we all knew how horrible Trump was, but, somehow, you didn’t. And, now that he’s gonna be in power, it’s even more important to fight. You may be privileged enough that it won’t affect you, but that’s not true for many people. It’s not entirely true for me, and it’s definitely not true for many of my friends. And I’m sure one or both of those is true for many people here. Politics is important, and, for the possibly first time, a genuinely evil man was elected. Our only hope is his own incompetence–but that’s a double-edged sword. So we have to fight. I hate saying this shit to someone who has anxiety problems, because it fucking sucks to get worried about the bad stuff that can happen. But pooh-poohing the people who are actually mentally able to handle this stuff isn’t good, either. And, yes, I get you were trying to have a lighthearted bit of fun. I don’t hate you or anything. But this just isn’t the place. And, yeah, it’s a lecture. Sorry. I don’t know how else to express stuff like this. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/23 "2016-12-17T19:02:02Z")
a good post, thanks for making it Thelmalou - folks who don’t like them can stop reading them. > [@](#): > > Just seems like there’s a new one every week or so from ya Idle Thoughts, this is mighty ironic coming from you :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/24 "2016-12-17T19:21:29Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It looks like he was openly defying the “will of the people” and they hit back. > > But now, the Repubs in North Carolina are doing all they can to strip all power from the incoming administration. > They are effectively staging a coup in NC. And every single one of those motherfuckers is [up for reelection next year](http://www.wral.com/federal-court-orders-new-nc-legislative-elections-in-2017/16289906/). This will be remembered. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/25 "2016-12-17T20:34:33Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Politics is important, and, for the possibly first time, a genuinely evil man was elected. I see you forget about William Henry Harrison making orphans fight to the death for his amusement. But seriously. come on. Trump’s not “genuinely evil”, or at least not any more evil than anybody else. He’s kind of a moron, and he’s going to make a crappy president, but yea, you guys are making way too big a deal about this whole thing. Trump won, and stuff is going to suck, and I agree, we should work to stop him. But one thing I’ll say for him, and that’s that he’s a better landlord than a lot of people here. And the reason I say that is that you guys have been letting him live rent free in your heads since the election. A bombardment of threads about “Oh, my God! Look at this horrible thing Trump said or did!”, doesn’t really help anything. It’s Orwell’s five-minute hate, a way for people to feel good about how terrible Trump is. Do it if you want, but don’t think **Thelmalou** ’s repeated threads or your participation in it is anything more than just gratuitous bitching for your own amusement. Don’t pretend you’re being noble here. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/26 "2016-12-17T20:47:32Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Politics is important, and, for the possibly first time, a genuinely evil man was elected. I hate to tell you, but hardly. Not by a long shot. > [@](#): > > I hate saying this shit to someone who has anxiety problems… Stay classy, **BigT**. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/27 "2016-12-17T20:52:53Z")
That probably seemed like a clever and level headed post to you as you were composing it **Captain Amazing**. Sadly, it’s dumb as fuck. “Genuine evil” is a phrase I’d hesitate to use for non-capital crime committing assholes. I’d say that Mr. Trump is a genuinely amoral man. That he demonstrates genuine unkindness in words and actions, that he is genuinely petty in his conduct. I’d say that he is genuinely unsuited (not just _poorly_ suited or _ill-equipped_) for the position of POTUS due to his genuine deep character flaws, demonstrable lack of knowledge or inclination toward moral action. That he genuinely fits some valid definitions of terms like _monstrous_ and _beastly_. And this thread of **ThelmaLou** ’s is about productive responses to the outrageous circumstances of this man’s election, it’s not about the outrage itself. So please do voice your objections to **BigT** having concerns, and then kindly piss off. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/28 "2016-12-17T20:56:18Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Do it if you want, Thank you. Your permission means everything to me. > [@](#): > > but don’t think **Thelmalou** ’s repeated threads or your participation in it is anything more than just gratuitous bitching for your own amusement. The last thing it is is gratuitous bitching. In fact, it is fighting ignorance, which surprisingly, seems to be necessary in this otherwise intelligent forum. And talking about this shit isn’t even remotely amusing. It’s nauseating > [@](#): > > Don’t pretend you’re being noble here. Noble? Is that your fantasy about why many of us won’t drop the subject less than six weeks after the election? Where did you come up with that? Do you scorn attempts to be noble? Never mind. I suggest that if you don’t like these discussions, you have my personal permission not to read or post in these threads. But, of course, your gratuitous bitching is always as welcome as the flowers in May. ---
**Author:** ![bobo\_blesinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@bobo\_blesinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobo_blesinger)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/29 "2016-12-17T21:01:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I can’t, for the life of me, imagine why it matters to you. But if it gives your life meaning to follow me around and count stuff, by all means. It gives \*\*my \*\*life meaning to know that I’m keeping you from bothering other posters. So please continue, with my blessing. 🙂 Goddamn you are a twunt. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/30 "2016-12-17T21:09:18Z")
> [@bobo\_blesinger](#): > > Goddamn you are a twunt. Sorry, don’t know that word. And don’t swear at me. It’s rude. But I suspect you know that and you were trying to make a point, amirite? Rudeness is not an effective way to make a point, but what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![bobo\_blesinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@bobo\_blesinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobo_blesinger)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/31 "2016-12-17T21:25:42Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Sorry, don’t know that word. And don’t swear at me. It’s rude. But I suspect you know that and you were trying to make a point, amirite? Rudeness is not an effective way to make a point, but what do I know? Fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/32 "2016-12-17T21:33:14Z")
> [@bobo\_blesinger](#): > > Fuck you. That’s a spankin’ and a kick out the door, newb. ETA: Jesus Christ, you’re not even a newb! 2008! How did you not know that a direct “Fuck you” in any forum was an instant suicide? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/33 "2016-12-17T21:46:35Z")
> [@bobo\_blesinger](#): > > Fuck you. You have achieved a rare distinction, sir, though sadly, not a commendable one. No one had ever said that to me in my whole life. At my advanced age, I didn’t think there were any new experiences to be had. Now all I have to do is go bowling, and I will have experienced all life has to offer. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![bobo\_blesinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@bobo\_blesinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobo_blesinger)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/34 "2016-12-17T22:02:50Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You have achieved a rare distinction, sir, though sadly, not a commendable one. No one had ever said that to me in my whole life. At my advanced age, I didn’t think there were any new experiences to be had. Now all I have to do is go bowling, and I will have experienced all life has to offer. Thank you. You are sincerely welcome. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/35 "2016-12-17T22:36:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > but what do I know? Not a whole lot, which is ironic because you claim that you are fighting ignorance. In reality, all you are doing is bitching and whining about one subject, over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/36 "2016-12-17T22:57:48Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Not a whole lot, which is ironic because you claim that you are fighting ignorance. In reality, all you are doing is bitching and whining about one subject, over and over again. Tough shit. Get over it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/37 "2016-12-17T22:59:29Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Not a whole lot, which is ironic because you claim that you are fighting ignorance. In reality, all you are doing is bitching and whining about one subject, over and over again. Keep talkin’ like that, and I’m going to stop paying you to read my posts. THEN what will you use to do your Christmas shopping? Hmmm? Ever think about that? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/38 "2016-12-17T23:36:04Z")
How could anything be more rancid than screwing yourself into a little hole in the ground playing the “opposition” rhetorical role over such an obvious cartoon character fece as donald? You compare that to a little thelmalou? please. Mind on vacation, fingers workin overtime… ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/39 "2016-12-18T01:50:40Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Tough shit. Get over it. Who are you? In any case, go fuck a cactus. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/40 "2016-12-18T01:57:45Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > If that’s true, then it’s certainly an update of what I last heard. On election night, Clinton only had about 62 million votes. But there were a lot of mail in ballots that didn’t get counted on election night. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911.md?page=3)