# "Indivisible: A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911 "2016-12-17T05:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/41 "2016-12-18T02:06:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Keep talkin’ like that, and I’m going to stop paying you to read my posts. THEN what will you use to do your Christmas shopping? Hmmm? Ever think about that? 😉 No one cares what you think, you senile old bag of bones. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/42 "2016-12-18T02:40:09Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > No one cares what you think, you senile old bag of bones. Oh, baby, you are cracking me up! When you sober up and reread this stuff, you are going to be so embarrassed. BTW, I’m old, but not senile. Okay enough fun and games. I’m going to stop harassing you now and leave you alone. Sleep well and have sweet dreams. Bye forever. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/43 "2016-12-18T02:50:26Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > This is the 15th thread you’ve started with the name “Trump” in the title in the last four months, not counting five other threads you started where you talk about him but didn’t mention his name in the title. > > Yeah, I know. I’m aware of the “Don’t like it? Don’t read it.” guideline. Just seems like there’s a new one every week or so from ya, though. : p Is this a “Oh, it’s Tuesday, I must start my regular thread about Donald Trump” sort of thing? I was gonna bring up your recent “I’m not voting” thread, but BigT just said pretty much all I have to say. For fuck’s sake, man. _For fuck’s sake._ > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Not a whole lot, which is ironic because you claim that you are fighting ignorance. In reality, all you are doing is bitching and whining about one subject, over and over again. And you voted for Trump. Between you and a person so stupid they can’t tell the difference between a dumpling and a basketball who decided not to vote, I’d say the latter showed better judgment. Please, take that stupidity that led you to make such a terrible fucking decision and use it to retard yourself out of the voter pool. _Please_. We’d all be better off for it, whether it’s by deciding the best way to stop a train is standing in front of it and asking nicely or by deciding to commit a felony in a state that doesn’t let you vote afterwards. One way or another, it’s one less clinically retarded _fuckwit_ making the world _so_ much worse of a place to live in, and I’m a happy fucking camper. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/44 "2016-12-18T02:58:49Z")
Did this thread start in the Pit? Seems like it didn’t have to devolve into an insult-fest. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/45 "2016-12-18T03:11:40Z")
You are quite right to ask the question. I did start it in the Pit, because it was expository as opposed to asking for opinions or starting a discussion. I figured the ranting would commence soon thereafter. I didn’t intend for it to deteriorate into personal insults, but apparently my volubility pushes some people’s hot buttons. I’d love to return to the topic. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/46 "2016-12-18T03:33:22Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I see you forget about William Henry Harrison making orphans fight to the death for his amusement. > > But seriously. come on. Trump’s not “genuinely evil”, or at least not any more evil than anybody else What the fuck? I’m not even sure what to say. How do you talk to someone who doesn’t even understand the basic difference between Good and Evil? This isn’t a debatable thing. Trump is evil. He is exactly what evil looks like in the real world. He’s so evil he almost comes off as a caricature. I’ve often pointed out he’s like a 1980s movie villain. He’s a corrupt businessman with narcissistic personality disorder. He acts just like an abusive spouse. He will hurt absolutely anyone if it will in any way help him. The only reason he even ran was to promote his own ego. He has no desire whatsoever to help this country. And he will lie and say anything to get what he wants. Why the fuck do you think everyone is worried about him becoming a dictator? Would we care if he were decent and good? I’m honestly not sure who is worse. The people who actively supported him and his evil, or the people like you who try to ignore it. And, guess what? Trump is in our heads because HE’S THE SOON-TO-BE HEAD OF THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON EARTH. He’s not some fucking message board troll. If we don’t stand up against him, he can very well make the lives of many, many Americans absolutely horrible. This is so horrible that I can’t even personally attack you. Because I know that will just give you an excuse to ignore everything I say. That’s how fucked up the world is right now. And you attacking the very people trying to make things better is NOT HELPING. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/47 "2016-12-18T04:15:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > At my advanced age, I didn’t think there were any new experiences to be had. Now all I have to do is go bowling, and I will have experienced all life has to offer. Thank you. I’ll bet you never skied naked. Well, naked except the boots. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/48 "2016-12-18T04:38:51Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I’ll bet you never skied naked. Well, naked except the boots. Good assumption. :eek: In fact, never skied at all, with or without clothes. I’ve led a pretty dull life. Fortunately not an adrenaline junkie. Except in the battle of wits. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/49 "2016-12-18T04:58:20Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Who are you? > > In any case, go fuck a cactus. Who am I? You have no need to know, junior. In Trump’s America, you will soon discover that cactus fucks you. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/50 "2016-12-18T06:05:20Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I was gonna bring up your recent “I’m not voting” thread, but BigT just said pretty much all I have to say. For fuck’s sake, man. _For fuck’s sake._ And you voted for Trump. . How the hell do you presume to know for whom I voted? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/51 "2016-12-18T06:07:53Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > BTW, I’m old, but not senile. You should have admitted to being senile. The only other possibility is that you’re a drooling idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/52 "2016-12-18T08:41:21Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > What the fuck? > > I’m not even sure what to say. How do you talk to someone who doesn’t even understand the basic difference between Good and Evil? > > This isn’t a debatable thing. Trump is evil. He is exactly what evil looks like in the real world. He’s so evil he almost comes off as a caricature. I’ve often pointed out he’s like a 1980s movie villain. > > He’s a corrupt businessman with narcissistic personality disorder. He acts just like an abusive spouse. He will hurt absolutely anyone if it will in any way help him. The only reason he even ran was to promote his own ego. He has no desire whatsoever to help this country. And he will lie and say anything to get what he wants. > > Why the fuck do you think everyone is worried about him becoming a dictator? Would we care if he were decent and good? > > I’m honestly not sure who is worse. The people who actively supported him and his evil, or the people like you who try to ignore it. > > And, guess what? Trump is in our heads because HE’S THE SOON-TO-BE HEAD OF THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON EARTH. He’s not some fucking message board troll. If we don’t stand up against him, he can very well make the lives of many, many Americans absolutely horrible. > > This is so horrible that I can’t even personally attack you. Because I know that will just give you an excuse to ignore everything I say. That’s how fucked up the world is right now. > > And you attacking the very people trying to make things better is NOT HELPING. Would you just fucking shut up? For once, just shut the fuck up. If you think Trump is the most evil politician we’ve ever had, you need to go back to history class. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/53 "2016-12-18T09:44:29Z")
> [@bobo\_blesinger](#): > > Fuck you. [Moderating] Saying “Fuck you” to other posters is a violation of the Pits language rules. Please avoid doing this again. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/54 "2016-12-18T12:08:30Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > We will keep talking about it because **it’s fucking important**. I realize this is the pit, but I’m asking this politely. Besides talking/posting about it, what have any of you actually done? Even as a conservative, I didn’t vote for him. But the morning after the election I read his entire website “cover to cover” to find out what I can about his plans and platform. Many of the items covered I actually support. I then wrote my representative expressing my support for some areas of his platform. I will write later about what I oppose. If it matters… I agree with his position on changing tax codes to make child care easier for working parents, and making it more attractive for employers to provide on-site child care. I agree with his position on infrastructure and especially water supplies (he mentions this in multiple places on the website) I agree with his plan to sunset/reduce the volume of federal regulations. He’s going to be President, like it or not. We have a largely right-leaning government now, like it or not. You have representatives at federal and state levels who will influence on his policies in the coming years. When was the last time you\* wrote them to express your opinion? They’re not reading your SDMB posts. \*anyone, not directed at a particular member ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/55 "2016-12-18T13:14:29Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Would you just fucking shut up? For once, just shut the fuck up. If you think Trump is the most evil politician we’ve ever had, you need to go back to history class. …I think that Trump is the most powerful evil politician the United States has ever had. So I really hope that Big T doesn’t shut the fuck up: and I really wish that, with all due respect Guinastasia, (because I’ve never ever really interacted with you on the boards before), but I wish that you would shut the fuck up. You are really starting to piss me off. You ignored the entire substance of what Big T said. He made a very good case for his position and you ignored everything he wrote and told him to shut the fuck up over a strawman. Trump is a corrupt businessman with narcissistic personality disorder. Trump does act just like an abusive spouse. Trump will hurt absolutely anyone if it will in any way help him. It does appear that the only reason he even ran was to promote his own ego. Trump has no desire whatsoever to help your country. And Trump will lie and say anything to get what he wants. So I agree with Big T. So good luck telling me to shut the fuck up. Because that isn’t going to happen. And if people like Big T and people like me are going to piss you off: then tough shit. Maybe this isn’t the right messageboard for you. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/56 "2016-12-18T13:49:43Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > I realize this is the pit, but I’m asking this politely. Besides talking/posting about it, what have any of you actually done? …are you going to ask that question to everyone who expresses their opinion on the internet? Because there are a fuck-load of people on the internet you are going to have to talk too. Besides talking/posting about it, what have you actually done? > [@](#): > > Even as a conservative, I didn’t vote for him. But the morning after the election I read his entire website “cover to cover” to find out what I can about his plans and platform. Many of the items covered I actually support. I then wrote my representative expressing my support for some areas of his platform. I will write later about what I oppose. Why the fuck did you read his website after the vote? Why didn’t you read it before you voted? > [@](#): > > If it matters… > I agree with his position on changing tax codes to make child care easier for working parents, and making it more attractive for employers to provide on-site child care. > I agree with his position on infrastructure and especially water supplies (he mentions this in multiple places on the website) > I agree with his plan to sunset/reduce the volume of federal regulations. Are you absolutely sure that what you read are his policy positions? > **[Tracking Donald Trump's flip-flops](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/here-are-new-policy-stances-donald-trump-has-taken-election-n684946)** > > NBC News is tracking Trump's new policy pronouncements. Here are the issues that he's flip-flopped on. Eleven days after being elected Trump had eight new policy positions on seven different issues. > **[141 stances on 23 issues Donald Trump took during his White House bid](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801)** > > To understand and track Trump’s views, we’ve compiled a list of his past and present positions on issues since he announced his candidacy. Trump took 141 different policy stances on 23 major issues pre-election. So I very much doubt that whatever was written on the website is what the Trump Empire is actually planning to do. But as always YMMV. > [@](#): > > He’s going to be President, like it or not. And people are going to stand against this President, like it or not. > [@](#): > > We have a largely right-leaning government now, like it or not. You have representatives at federal and state levels who will influence on his policies in the coming years. When was the last time you\* wrote them to express your opinion? I don’t live in the United States. But as a direct result of the election I’ve introduced a diversity policy to my business and I’ve started to change the way we do business. We are also looking at ways of supporting vulnerable minority communities in 2017. But that really isn’t relevant. Because this is the pit. And people come here to rant. Its kinda like the Black Hat guy in Westworld. Outside of Westworld he is a saint. But inside Westworld he comes across as a bit of an arsehole. There are many people here to do a fuck load of stuff outside of these boards. And they don’t owe you an explanation on what they do in their personal lives. Because its none of your fucking business. This is the pit. We rant here. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/57 "2016-12-18T22:22:29Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I think that Trump is the most powerful evil politician the United States has ever had. So I really hope that Big T doesn’t shut the fuck up: and I really wish that, with all due respect Guinastasia, (because I’ve never ever really interacted with you on the boards before), but I wish that you would shut the fuck up. You are really starting to piss me off. You ignored the entire substance of what Big T said. He made a very good case for his position and you ignored everything he wrote and told him to shut the fuck up over a strawman. > > Trump is a corrupt businessman with narcissistic personality disorder. Trump does act just like an abusive spouse. Trump will hurt absolutely anyone if it will in any way help him. It does appear that the only reason he even ran was to promote his own ego. Trump has no desire whatsoever to help your country. And Trump will lie and say anything to get what he wants. > > So I agree with Big T. > > So good luck telling me to shut the fuck up. Because that isn’t going to happen. And if people like Big T and people like me are going to piss you off: then tough shit. Maybe this isn’t the right messageboard for you. I noticed that too… NONE of the actual points was answered. It was all simply ignored. The underlying theme behind the points (which are backed up by his own words and behavior) were that Trump truly is a piece of shit, always has been a piece of shit, and always WILL be a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/58 "2016-12-20T16:23:22Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I can’t, for the life of me, imagine why it matters to you. But if it gives your life meaning to follow me around and count stuff, by all means. I mean, it couldn’t possibly be that this board doesn’t want anyone to make this their own personal blog or the fact that people, John Clay for instance, have been warned for starting too many threads on the same subject. But this is a liberal board and you are on the right political side of things so you will get away with what other posters have been warned for. Good for you. I am looking forward to your next 5000 threads on why Trump is Super Evil Satan Hitler over the next 4 YEARS. Your butthurt and tears are entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/59 "2016-12-20T17:38:29Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > How the hell do you presume to know for whom I voted? To be honest I also presumed that you voted for Trump, because you seem stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/60 "2016-12-20T17:39:29Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > I am looking forward to your next 5000 threads on why Trump is Super Evil Satan Hitler over the next 4 YEARS. Your butthurt and tears are entertaining. You should post to all 5000 of those threads trying to be funny, and by 5001 you will finally manage it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911.md?page=4)