# "Indivisible: A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911 "2016-12-17T05:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/61 "2016-12-20T17:43:03Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > To be honest I also presumed that you voted for Trump, because you seem stupid. “Seem”? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/62 "2016-12-20T18:19:09Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > I mean, it couldn’t possibly be that this board doesn’t want anyone to make this their own personal blog or the fact that people, John Clay for instance, have been warned for starting too many threads on the same subject. But this is a liberal board and you are on the right political side of things so you will get away with what other posters have been warned for. > > Good for you. > > I am looking forward to your next 5000 threads on why Trump is Super Evil Satan Hitler over the next 4 YEARS. Your butthurt and tears are entertaining. What is this, the 5th grade? This is about the lamest thing anyone has ever posted to me. I’ll bet even you, with your unique rhetorical gifts, can’t top it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/63 "2016-12-20T18:33:54Z")
I would remind people of what John Mitchell said re; the then incomeing Nixon administration. “Don’t listen to what we say, watch what we do.” Rhetoric, even some of the batshit boob-bait rhetoric tossed out by trump is one thing, but it is by their action we will know their intentions. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/64 "2016-12-20T19:29:00Z")
Drunky thinks Rump as President is NORMAL and you must accept this. but why should you listen to him? no reason I can see. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/65 "2016-12-20T20:24:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Fortunately not an adrenaline junkie. Except in the battle of wits. :dubious: Wits? Let’s see, you post the same dribble in ad nauseam to this echo chamber. Claiming to fight ignorance. Do you actually believe if 100 more dopers went out and voted it would have made a difference? If you are wanting change, then you’re in the wrong place. Ever heard of preaching to the choir? There are no new converts to be had here. I would encourage you to get more involved in a grass roots campaign in the rural parts of Texas, where people tended to not vote the same way you did. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/66 "2016-12-20T21:13:15Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Let’s see, you post the same dribble… “Drivel.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/67 "2016-12-20T21:15:02Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > :dubious: Wits? > > Let’s see, you post the same dribble in ad nauseam to this echo chamber. Claiming to fight ignorance. Do you actually believe if 100 more dopers went out and voted it would have made a difference? > > If you are wanting change, then you’re in the wrong place. Ever heard of preaching to the choir? There are no new converts to be had here. > > I would encourage you to get more involved in a grass roots campaign in the rural parts of Texas, where people tended to not vote the same way you did. It’s neither proselytization nor dribble, but self-expression. And even like-minded people can talk to and inform each other. If you don’t like my posts, don’t read them. BTW, all the counties from Austin southward went for Hillary. But now I’m curious. What made you angry enough to lash out gratuitously at me? In your real life, my status is less significant than a fly speck. And yet you took the time to post that? _\_ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/68 "2016-12-20T22:10:34Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I would encourage you to get more involved in a grass roots campaign in the rural parts of Texas, where people tended to not vote the same way you did. There’s no point, such people are totally irrational and won’t listen. You might as well argue with a wall as with a member of the Republican base. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/69 "2016-12-20T22:47:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What made you angry enough to lash out gratuitously at me? Angry? Lash out? Gratuitously? You don’t _message board_ well do you? I’m just trying fight ignorance. Oh, and south isn’t the only direction you can go from Austin. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/70 "2016-12-20T23:04:07Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Angry? Lash out? Gratuitously? You don’t _message board_ well do you? Actually I do, but but this exchange was and is pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/71 "2016-12-21T17:32:07Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > I realize this is the pit, but I’m asking this politely. Besides talking/posting about it, what have any of you actually done? > > Even as a conservative, I didn’t vote for him. But the morning after the election I read his entire website “cover to cover” to find out what I can about his plans and platform. Many of the items covered I actually support. I then wrote my representative expressing my support for some areas of his platform. I will write later about what I oppose. > > If it matters… > I agree with his position on changing tax codes to make child care easier for working parents, and making it more attractive for employers to provide on-site child care. > I agree with his position on infrastructure and especially water supplies (he mentions this in multiple places on the website) > I agree with his plan to sunset/reduce the volume of federal regulations. > > He’s going to be President, like it or not. We have a largely right-leaning government now, like it or not. You have representatives at federal and state levels who will influence on his policies in the coming years. When was the last time you\* wrote them to express your opinion? > > They’re not reading your SDMB posts. > > \*anyone, not directed at a particular member I’ll tell you what I’ve done. The Sunday after the election we had an impromptu meeting of a bunch of local people from a FB group. Over a hundred and twenty people showed up. With, like, four days notice. On a rainy Sunday afternoon. I volunteered for the steering committee and when that met I bitched enough about the lists of action items I’ve been seeing that have so many low value items on them that I volunteered myself to be communications coordinator. Since then I’ve been sending out weekly well cited curated lists of actions to take that include, say, the phone numbers and a script for your senators, so there’s no excuse not to pick up the phone right this second and do it. When our state legislature starts up again I’ll add local items as well that people won’t get from the bigger lists. I’ve called my members of Congress more in the past few weeks than I have in the previous 36 years of my life. Next month I’m marching on Washington. The next time Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, or Jim Clyburn are in town I’m going to be there, and I’m not going to be alone. That’s what I’m doing. I will fight them until hell freezes over and then I will fight on the ice. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/72 "2016-12-21T18:13:53Z")
Brava! ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/73 "2016-12-21T18:55:27Z")
I am no longer fucking around. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/74 "2016-12-21T20:02:35Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I’ll tell you what I’ve done. The Sunday after the election we had an impromptu meeting of a bunch of local people from a FB group. Over a hundred and twenty people showed up. With, like, four days notice. On a rainy Sunday afternoon. > > I volunteered for the steering committee and when that met I bitched enough about the lists of action items I’ve been seeing that have so many low value items on them that I volunteered myself to be communications coordinator. Since then I’ve been sending out weekly well cited curated lists of actions to take that include, say, the phone numbers and a script for your senators, so there’s no excuse not to pick up the phone right this second and do it. When our state legislature starts up again I’ll add local items as well that people won’t get from the bigger lists. > > I’ve called my members of Congress more in the past few weeks than I have in the previous 36 years of my life. Next month I’m marching on Washington. The next time Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, or Jim Clyburn are in town I’m going to be there, and I’m not going to be alone. > > That’s what I’m doing. I will fight them until hell freezes over and then I will fight on the ice. Now that’s action!! ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/75 "2016-12-21T22:05:33Z")
You can do it too! You don’t have to open your big fat mouth in a meeting; send your friends on Facebook or wherever good, evidence-grounded things to do. Include all the information they need because you know how lazy they are. Urge them to stop sharing crap from shitty sites like Being Liberal and Occupy Democrats; sent real in depth articles instead. Select charities fighting for what you believe in, vet them yourself, and share the information you learned. Only takes five minutes to call your congresscritters. You can go to your car on your lunch break and do it every day if you like. It’s their job to listen to you. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/76 "2016-12-22T08:40:32Z")
The Abyss says “Hi”. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/77 "2016-12-22T14:43:39Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > If it matters… > I agree with his position on changing tax codes to make child care easier for working parents, and making it more attractive for employers to provide on-site child care. > I agree with his position on infrastructure and especially water supplies (he mentions this in multiple places on the website) > I agree with his plan to sunset/reduce the volume of federal regulations. You know his “plan” to reduce the volume of federal regulations is to repeal two for every new one that is adopted, right? That’s not a plan. It’s not governing. It’s a joke. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911/78 "2016-12-28T01:28:33Z")
For those Democrats/liberals asking the question, “What can we do?” here are some suggestions. [Source](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/the-democratic-game-plan-for-making-trump-miserable.html). > [@](#): > > Now that the 2016 election has formally ended, and there’s no denying Donald Trump the presidency, Democrats can finally and fully focus on their strategy for opposing him. I say “opposing him,” because everything Trump has done since November 8 shows beyond a reasonable doubt that there’s not going to be some shockingly moderate Trump administration as open to Democratic as to Republican policies and priorities. Becoming a “loyal opposition” is not an option, and if Democratic leaders actually went in that direction … the Democratic rank and file would probably find themselves new leaders. No, this is not a call to become constipated obstructionists like Congress has been the last eight years. There are nine points (bold is in the original text): > [@](#): > > \*\*Unify their ranks. \*\*Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer is trying to keep potentially wayward colleagues inside a “big tent” with a broad leadership team… > \*\* > Find a way to pick off three Republican senators. \*\*This will be absolutely crucial for confirmation and budget votes. > > **Develop an effective strategy for dealing with Trump’s SCOTUS nominee. \*\* > \*\* > Decide when and how to fight for Obama’s executive orders.** Still another theoretical opportunity to thwart Trump will be on votes to overturn recent Obama regulations via the Congressional Review Act… > > \*\*Get prepared for what will probably be the most important bill of all — the GOP’s 2018 budget. \*\* > > \*\*Hope that they’ll have a chance to fight for Medicare. \*\* > > **Try to flip the House in 2018.** Ultimately, of course, any Democratic strategy for dealing with the new realities created by the 2016 elections must aim at an electoral payoff… > > **Get ready for 2020.** If Democrats fail where Republicans succeeded in decisively winning that first midterm after the White House has changed hands, they could still succeed where Republicans failed against Obama by denying Trump a second term. > > \*\*Find tea-party-levels of intensity in the base. \*\*Above and beyond all the “inside baseball” strategies I’ve been talking about, Democrats must begin building the kind of “outside” organized pressure that the Republicans benefitted from when the tea party arrived on the scene in 2009… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indivisible-a-practical-guide-for-resisting-the-trump-agenda/774911.md?page=3)