# Infant genetal mutilation is a blood sacrifice to the demon Yahwe.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 10, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321 "2018-11-10T20:59:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/441 "2018-11-25T15:42:34Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Oh wow, thanks! I’d forgotten those threads. Including testimony from a guy who was circumcised as an adult who who said “sex isn’t very different”.

Glen Callandor of the Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project (CAN-FAP) would beg to differ on that. I’m not going to link to this directly because it’s on the borderline between educational and pornographic, but he has a video where he shows how can achieve multiple orgasms by stimulating his ridged band, a part of the body removed during circumcision.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/442 "2018-11-25T15:53:10Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I’m sorry you are unhappy with your body. I know you want every other circumcised man to be unhappy, too, but the facts are that most are fine with it. I suspect there are more constructive things you could do than dwell on your missing foreskin. Have you considered therapy?

Yeah, if I had the money. Or possibly even fly to Peru for some Ayahuasca ceremonies. It’s probably best I step back from this issue for awhile. Watch Bob Ross paint happy trees, go for a jog, play some Chess. Find something else to put me in a different frame of mind. I’ve provided plenty of information and arguments for anyone willing to listen.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/443 "2018-11-25T15:53:31Z")

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Yeah, but the odds are that you couldn’t have done that even if you hadn’t been circumcised. Certainly, that wasn’t among the skills of my intact college boyfriend. And I’d be really surprised if it’s a common skill. And on the flip side, there are an awful lot of circumcised men who have no trouble stimulating themselves to orgasm, and having orgasms with partners.

I’m completely serious that I think you might benefit from counseling. I won’t say it again, because I suspect I’m already coming close to being a jerk here. But you sound really frustrated and unhappy, and that’s something that people can improve in their lives.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/444 "2018-11-25T15:55:02Z")

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Sorry, our posts overlapped. Yeah, stepping back from the issue and doing other stuff you enjoy is probably a good choice.

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/445 "2018-11-25T15:59:15Z")

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My paternal grandfather was circumcised as an adult during WW2 and reported that sex was better afterwards. It would seem likely that men could vary, but this seems like a particularly relevant anecdote for me personally. This was the reason I was circumcised- no reference to any demons.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/446 "2018-11-25T16:28:45Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> … I think Clopper may have gone a little bit off the rails with his Anti-Judaism…

May? … “a little off the rails”?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/447 "2018-11-25T17:52:12Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Glen Callandor of the Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project (CAN-FAP) would beg to differ on that. I’m not going to link to this directly because it’s on the borderline between educational and pornographic, but he has a video where he shows how can achieve multiple orgasms by stimulating his ridged band, a part of the body removed during circumcision.

I bet every time that video gets another view, he has another orgasm. Thanks foreskin!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/448 "2018-11-25T22:36:23Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> I would rather have been molested by a pedophile as an infant. If my genitals were merely fondled, but not damaged. Maybe even a lubed digit in my anus. It still would have been monstrously evil, but I’d still have my whole body.

Tell that to someone who WAS molested. I DARE you. Go for it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/449 "2018-11-26T01:58:38Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Tell that to someone who WAS molested. I DARE you. Go for it.

Tell that to _me_.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/450 "2018-11-26T12:48:45Z")

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A few people get sick from [Romaine lettuce](https://fox6now.com/2018/11/25/fda-says-romaine-lettuce-recall-likely-california-based/), and they pull it from the shelves nationwide.

Meanwhile, [119 infants](http://www.cirp.org/library/death/) die annually from completely unnecessary cosmetic genital surgery, and nobody bats an eyelash.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/451 "2018-11-26T13:47:25Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> A few people get sick from [Romaine lettuce](https://fox6now.com/2018/11/25/fda-says-romaine-lettuce-recall-likely-california-based/), and they pull it from the shelves nationwide.
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> Meanwhile, [119 infants](http://www.cirp.org/library/death/) die annually from completely unnecessary cosmetic genital surgery, and nobody bats an eyelash.

That “119 deaths” is un undocumented estimate from one Dan Bolinger, a man with a mission(but no medical training), in [this emotionally laden pdf](http://www.icgi.org/articles/bollinger4.pdf) written for the International Coalition for Genital Integrity back in 2006, :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/452 "2018-11-26T13:56:57Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Tell that to someone who WAS molested. I DARE you. Go for it.

If you were forced to chose having your genitals non-consensually fondled, or [sliced into with no anesthesia or inadequate anesthesia](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/myths-about-circumcision-you-likely-believe), which would you choose?

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> In babies and children, the foreskin is adhered to the head of the penis with the same type of tissue that adheres fingernails to their nail beds. Removing it requires shoving a blunt probe between the foreskin and the head of the penis and then cutting down and around the whole penis.

No baby wants their genitals cut, any more than they want their fingernails ripped off. 10 out of 10 babies say no to circumcision.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/453 "2018-11-26T14:01:26Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> If you were forced to chose having your genitals non-consensually fondled, or [sliced into with no anesthesia or inadequate anesthesia](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/myths-about-circumcision-you-likely-believe), which would you choose?

I have no memory of my circumcision, and I have had an active and fulfilling sex life over the last 40 years.  
I was also repeatedly forcibly raped as a child for many years.

Ask me which I preferred.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/454 "2018-11-26T14:17:55Z")

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Is anyone really getting anything from this? If I don’t see something I may just close it and tell you all to come back another day.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/455 "2018-11-26T14:27:27Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Is anyone really getting anything from this?

Other than snark fodder? No. Not to discount snark fodder, but we have plenty stored for the winter months ahead. Grasshoppers may feel differently.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/456 "2018-11-26T14:28:21Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Is anyone really getting anything from this? If I don’t see something I may just close it and tell you all to come back another day.

Cut the thread short please.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/457 "2018-11-26T17:52:16Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> In babies and children, the foreskin is adhered to the head of the penis with the same type of tissue that adheres fingernails to their nail beds…

Your cite claim does not match [neutral medical](https://www.healthline.com/health/penile-adhesion)orientations.

You should look for the counseling for your body perception.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/458 "2018-11-26T17:54:17Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Cut the thread short please.

yes it is not healthy

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/459 "2018-11-26T17:55:19Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Cut the thread short please.

No anesthesia necessary.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/460 "2018-11-26T18:21:49Z")

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Yeah

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