# Infant genetal mutilation is a blood sacrifice to the demon Yahwe. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 10, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321 "2018-11-10T20:59:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/41 "2018-11-11T04:13:51Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Guys, this is the very definition of witnessing. Hence it belongs here in Great Debates. > > Good luck. Really? Because I thought it was a parody of other people who cite their religion as a means of protesting against the ACA. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/42 "2018-11-11T04:17:21Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > But parents do it to infants because it was done to them before they left the hospital. I’m pretty sure that’s not true for at least half the parents who have their infants circumcised. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/43 "2018-11-11T04:19:21Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > it is nowhere near comparable to removing a minor and barely consequential flap of skin from a guy’s equipment which in no way inhibits sexual function. > > if you are an adult man and you are still enraged about the loss of a flap of skin you never even knew you had, you really, _really_ are living a pampered life. > **[Male circumcision leads to a bad sex life](https://www.sciencenordic.com/denmark-gender-hiv/male-circumcision-leads-to-a-bad-sex-life/1371590)** > > Circumcised men have more difficulties reaching orgasm, and their female partners experience more vaginal pains and an inferior sex life, a new study shows. > [@](#): > > “Circumcised men are three times as likely to experience a frequent inability to reach an orgasm,” says one of the researchers, Associate Professor Morten Frisch from Danish research enterprise SSI. > [@](#): > > It appears that women with circumcised men are twice as likely to be sexually frustrated. They experience a three-fold risk of frequent difficulties in achieving orgasm, and an eight-fold risk of feeling pain during intercourse – also known as dyspareunia.” Inconsequential??? > [@](#): > > There appears to be a very simple reason why circumcised men and their partners are having problems with their sex lives. > > The circumcised man develops a thin layer of hard skin on his penis head, which decreases the sensitivity. This means that in order to reach an orgasm, he needs to work harder at it, and that can lead to a painful experience for the woman. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/44 "2018-11-11T04:38:05Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I also think that the OP has some meds that he needs to be taking. Knock it off. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/45 "2018-11-11T04:54:44Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > With good reason, it’s fucking stupid and it hurts. Still waitng to hear why this is good for babies. You missed my point. There are other reasons why men go under the knife… Like vasectomies for one. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/46 "2018-11-11T05:20:26Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > it makes sex feel better. > [@Sitnam](#): > > Circumcised men have no frame of reference, uncircumcised men can pull the skin down with their hands while having sex to see what that feels like. Yéeaaah, I don’t pulling your foreskin down with your hand, _while having sex_, is in any way going to be an accurate simulation of sex with a circumsized penis. Who holds their penis while having intercourse anyway? That sounds totally awkward and uncomfortable, definitely not conducive to an enjoyable sexual experience. So of course an uncircumcised man would prefer the version of sex that _doesn’t_ require that he hold his dick in his hand the entire time. Honestly, neither cut or uncut men have any real frame of reference for what sex is like “on the other side”. Unless, of course, the circumsized man had the procedure performed as an adult, thereby allowing him the sexual perspective of both “types” of penises. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/47 "2018-11-11T05:29:30Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Yéeaaah, I don’t pulling your foreskin down with your hand, _while having sex_, is in any way going to be an accurate simulation of sex with a circumsized penis. Who holds their penis while having intercourse anyway? That sounds totally awkward and uncomfortable, definitely not conducive to an enjoyable sexual experience. > > So of course an uncircumcised man would prefer the version of sex that _doesn’t_ require that he hold his dick in his hand the entire time. Honestly, neither cut or uncut men have any real frame of reference for what sex is like “on the other side”. Unless, of course, the circumsized man had the procedure performed as an adult, thereby allowing him the sexual perspective of both “types” of penises. Are you an uncircumsied male? Cause your post indicates you have no idea what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/48 "2018-11-11T05:30:33Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > You missed my point. There are other reasons why men go under the knife… Like vasectomies for one. Yup. Adult men. You know, with a choice. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/49 "2018-11-11T05:32:20Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m pretty sure that’s not true for at least half the parents who have their infants circumcised. Hah. Great thing about tradition, both genders enforce it. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/50 "2018-11-11T05:33:21Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Knock it off. > > [/moderating] I’m sorry; this isn’t the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/51 "2018-11-11T05:35:44Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Unless, of course, the circumsized man had the procedure performed as an adult, thereby allowing him the sexual perspective of both “types” of penises. I remember hearing a discussion about, ahem, this on NPR, and a guy called in to say that he had been circumcised as a sexually active adult, and said that the experience for him went from color to B&W, due to losing so many active nerve endings. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/52 "2018-11-11T05:37:21Z")
So, then, ignorance is _bris_? ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/53 "2018-11-11T05:38:54Z")
> [@DJ\_Motorbike](#): > > Obamacare is enslaving me to participate in blood sacrifice to yahwe, a fiery, murderous, blood demon from a desert cult. > > I want out. Does the relevant law require anybody to undergo circumcision, or to perform it? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/54 "2018-11-11T05:48:02Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I remember hearing a discussion about, ahem, this on NPR, and a guy called in to say that he had been circumcised as a sexually active adult, and said that the experience for him went from color to B&W, due to losing so many active nerve endings. _That_ is a genuine (albeit anecdotal) comparison of the two , um, “States of Manhood”. It’s in stark contrast to the previous comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/55 "2018-11-11T06:22:07Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > I’d point out that his parents had the right to give consent for him, and that they were the ones who wanted the procedure done, despite counselling about its lack of necessity along with the usual risks/benefit discussion. And that at least I, unlike most circumcisers of that era, used pudendal blocks to anesthetize the region before cutting. This so called “procedure” was performed on me in the 1980s when I was a newborn. My understanding is that anesthesia wasn’t used at that time. :eek: I’m too afraid to confront my parents about this issue, I fear the conversation will not go well. I’ve considered trying to track down the doctor who circumcised me and write him/her a letter about how I feel. But chances are they are retired or dead by now, and they probably wouldn’t apologize anyway, so what difference would it make? There is a biomedical research company, called Foregen, which is trying to use stem cell regenerative medicine to regrow the foreskin and reattach it for men who are unhappy that they were circumcised. If they succeed and make that procedure affordable, I want to get my foreskin restored. For any parents expecting a baby boy, I strongly recommend they watch the documentary American Circumcision, directed by Brendon Marotta. It’s about the circumcision debate. The film tries to fairly air the views of both sides of the debate. It’s on Amazon Video. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/56 "2018-11-11T06:45:37Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Are you an uncircumsied male? > > Cause your post indicates you have no idea what you’re talking about. Good, informative rebuttal! Please, if you can see these errors in my thinking process, by all means, please point them out to me. I want nothing more than to be informed. General insults are a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/57 "2018-11-11T08:31:04Z")
Damn, am I the only one that doesn’t miss their foreskin one bit? ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/58 "2018-11-11T09:20:22Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Damn, am I the only one that doesn’t miss their foreskin one bit? Nope. I find the very concept of missing it or wanting it back entirely unrelatable. But hey, whatever floats your boat I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/59 "2018-11-11T09:28:34Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Nope. I find the very concept of missing it or wanting it back entirely unrelatable. But hey, whatever floats your boat I guess. Yeah, and the idea of confronting your parents, or looking up your old doctor seems way bizarre to me as well. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321/60 "2018-11-11T09:31:35Z")
I wonder what lord cluthlu or the fsm thoughts would be on it … I mean he did mention the true gods ……:D:p [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infant-genetal-mutilation-is-a-blood-sacrifice-to-the-demon-yahwe/824321.md?page=4)