# Infinity war 'seen it' thread (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115 "2018-04-25T19:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/181 "2018-05-01T00:19:53Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > huh?..Galactus eats planets… not people. People are like seasame seeds on the bun. He’s interested in the burger. Galactus feeds\* on the “life force” of inhabited planets. The people (and animals, plants, and (I assume) microbial life) are very much the burger to him. The actual planet is more like the cafeteria tray the burger is served on. \*Well, “fed.” He’s currently doing a stint as Galactus the Lifebringer, and is running around restoring life to dead planets. I suspect it’s just a phase. ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/182 "2018-05-01T00:57:39Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > If I heard it correctly, it was _Hulka Hulka Burnin’ Fudge_, thankyouverymuch. And wasn’t Tony’s Ben & Jerry’s flavor _Stark Raving Nuts_? What would be in those flavors? I propose… Hulka Hulka Burning Fudge: cinnamon ice cream with a fudge swirl and cinnamon graham cracker bits. Stark Raving Hazelnuts: hazelnut ice cream with chocolate covered hazelnut bits and a caramel swirl. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/183 "2018-05-01T01:57:30Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Still think someone with Dr Strange’s power and knowledge should bring more on the banishment/disintegration/unmaking/beatdown front, but there you go. Or just drop the dumb sonuvabitch into one of those portals and wait. Loki: “I was falling for TWO hours!” At a minimum, you buy time to think of a solution. Or, because Thanos is a biped, Stark just approaches him from astern, hits him in the small of his back and lifts him into orbit. No biped and defend there - that we know of - and once in orbit just toss his ass into interstellar space. It’d be eons before he hit something and could get some purchase. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/184 "2018-05-01T01:58:24Z")
Or, hell, toss him into the Dark Dimension and tell him and Dormammu to get back to you when they’ve worked things out amongst themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/185 "2018-05-01T02:10:02Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > At the end of the movie, Steve Rogers is sitting on the ground next to Vision’s corpse. A few seconds goes by and Steve says “Oh no…” and then the scene immediately cuts to Thanos on his farm remembering Gamora and enjoying the sunset. Someone suggested that this was Steve realizing he was dusting, but they are leaving it for the sequel. I thought he said, “Oh, God.” ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/186 "2018-05-01T02:22:52Z")
I think the only thing that bugs me about the Marvel Cinematic Universe is how restricted it is. If I understand it correctly, it’s because of how rights were sold, but it bugs me no end that, say, the mutants are completely left out. Imagine what Magneto could do to remove that glove. What would happen if Majyk dropped Thanos into Limbo using one of her teleport disks? Or the Inhumans. Put Bolt in front of the line in Wakanda and let him scream at the critters. Yes, yes, I know. The focus here is the Avengers and the various heroes thereof, but dude, this is a Galactic-level threat (why isn’t it a Universe-level threat? Why are all the Infinity Stones in ONE GALAXY?), you’d think they’d be recruiting anyone who had powers of any sort. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/187 "2018-05-01T02:30:48Z")
If that were the case, you’d really just want the Phoenix. She could just alter the Universe so the Gauntlet - or Thanos - never existed. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/188 "2018-05-01T02:35:02Z")
Couldn’t Scarlet Witch(comic version) do the same thing? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/189 "2018-05-01T02:37:06Z")
Unclear, IMO. Her powers have waxed and waned per the needs of plot. Her original powers were simply - as I recall - to affect probability. Now that’s powerful as all hell, but I don’t think the boundaries were ever fully explored. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/190 "2018-05-01T02:43:03Z")
And FYI: [Ways to Defeat Thanos](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=854004). ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/191 "2018-05-01T02:49:34Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > If that were the case, you’d really just want the Phoenix. She could just alter the Universe so the Gauntlet - or Thanos - never existed. It has been a long, long time since I read X-Men, and I don’t recall Phoenix having that power (which sounds a lot like what the Reality Infinity Stone’s does, yes? no?). Also, which Phoenix, Jean or Rachel? ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/192 "2018-05-01T04:32:05Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > I don’t have any skin in this disagreement, but your stance is a little odd. So [here’s a source](https://www.inverse.com/article/44208-infinity-war-titan-versus-saturn) (I’m not sure how you’re defining “verifiable” for these purposes). I checked with a source I consider verifiable, Mr. Jim Starlin. Only the Russo bros. would be more definitive, and I’m not in contact with them. I’d expect Starlin to be partisan to his original (comics) version, but his answer was less clear-cut “You’ll have to wait until the extended version on the DVD to find out. Still can’t say any more than that.” ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/193 "2018-05-01T07:13:38Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > It has been a long, long time since I read X-Men, and I don’t recall Phoenix having that power (which sounds a lot like what the Reality Infinity Stone’s does, yes? no?). Also, which Phoenix, Jean or Rachel? At her peak as Dark Phoenix, Jean Grey could consume suns and alter reality. Actually, Moira McTaggert’s son Proteus could alter reality as well. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/194 "2018-05-01T07:34:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The audience in my showing was silent too, but not unhappy, I think. Just in a state of shock. Same here, though I was the only one in the theater. Personally, I would have just made everyone get up like they were ready to fight, then wisp the “chosen” ones right then and there, THE END. Ten minutes of “guess who’s dying” seemed a little excessive to me, and I’m a glutton for those types of endings, a la _The Departed_. No exposition, no long goodbyes, just BANG BANG BANG everyone is dead, el fin. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/195 "2018-05-01T07:38:07Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Or just drop the dumb sonuvabitch into one of those portals and wait. > > Loki: “I was falling for TWO hours!” > > At a minimum, you buy time to think of a solution. > > Or, because Thanos is a biped, Stark just approaches him from astern, hits him in the small of his back and lifts him into orbit. No biped and defend there - that we know of - and once in orbit just toss his ass into interstellar space. It’d be eons before he hit something and could get some purchase. Space Stone’s teleportation says hello. Reality Stone’s twisting of the world says goodbye. The only chance to stop Thanos is kill him or prevent him from closing the gauntlet. Everything else is just a distraction for him. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/196 "2018-05-01T08:23:49Z")
So, I saw the film in a German dubbed version. When the Wakandans charged the Thanos mooks, the battle cry from Black Panther was ‘Wakanda über alles’. Which I thought was a little, uh, inappropriate, since the Wakandans are the good guys, and the people who came up with that motto kinda weren’t. What was the battle cry in the English version? (It wasn’t ‘Wakanda first’, was it?) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/197 "2018-05-01T08:48:27Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > So, I saw the film in a German dubbed version. When the Wakandans charged the Thanos mooks, the battle cry from Black Panther was ‘Wakanda über alles’. Which I thought was a little, uh, inappropriate, since the Wakandans are the good guys, and the people who came up with that motto kinda weren’t. > > What was the battle cry in the English version? (It wasn’t ‘Wakanda first’, was it?) “Wakanda forever!” And you really shouldn’t watch dubbed movies. Were there no other options? ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/198 "2018-05-01T08:50:55Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > So, I saw the film in a German dubbed version. When the Wakandans charged the Thanos mooks, the battle cry from Black Panther was ‘Wakanda über alles’. Which I thought was a little, uh, inappropriate, since the Wakandans are the good guys, and the people who came up with that motto kinda weren’t. > > What was the battle cry in the English version? (It wasn’t ‘Wakanda first’, was it?) “Wakanda forever!”, as I recall. Heard it in _Black Panther_, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/199 "2018-05-01T10:03:54Z")
> [@Serenata67](#): > > So yes, they’re elders. But no, they’re not the same species. So according to the previous hypothesis (of not wanting to exterminate the last member of any given species), there are three possible meanings. > > 1. Ego still exists. (not likely) > 2. Other offspring of Ego still exist. > 3. When Ego stopped existing, Peter became pure human somehow and not some Ego-human hybrid. > > …or is there some other meaning? They pretty much explicitly state that #3 is what happened when Ego died. Peter is a run of the mill Terran now as are all his living offspring. So I saw it a few nights ago and just caught up on the thread. I’m not a comic book reader but I love deep diving on some wikis after these movies. Some random thoughts since most of you have covered the big stuff. Didn’t like that they killed off all the characters with sequels planned but none of the ones who’s contracts are up. While I quickly realized that this would all be undone, I would have preferred a little more ambiguity on some of these guys. Let me spend a few days or months thinking that maybe this is how they end it with RDJ. I suppose 75% of A4 will be centered on the living characters so I guess they needed to maximize what they get out of those big names I guess. I really liked the Black Order. These were some quality henchmen for a change. Ebony Maw was probably my favorite, and Proxima was great. Only complaint is that they weren’t super clear on what their powers were. WTF is with Vision? He’s basically one of the most powerful Avengers and he has an Infinity Stone. Why the heck was he do useless in every fight? That really bugged me. I read an article somewhere that made the case that the screenwriters really screwed up on Thanos. It basically said that his infatuation with Death from the comics was a better way to go. Specifically that Hela from Ragnarok was already perfectly set up to fill that role. I think that’s a good point though I don’t have all the background on the while Death plot. Would have been nice to bring Cate back anyways even if she’s off screen most of the movie. I read another speculation that the Quantum Realm/Microverse would somehow be critical to resolving this. Which would explain why Ant Man and Wasp is happening next. We’ll see. I’m betting Heimdall, Loki and Gamora are properly dead. I keep seeing people wanting more crossovers. I really don’t want that. The Xmen world and the MCU are both already sprawling. It’s amazing the Avengers has managed to stay pretty enjoyable with 20+ characters to service. Adding a bunch of mutants would jump the shark. All in all I had fun. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/200 "2018-05-01T10:18:28Z")
One last thing. Probably the most eyerolley part for me is when they have these human or mostly human characters going toe to toe with Gods or bring basically indestructible. As far as I know Scarlett Witch is just a human with magic powers. How can she fall 20 stories though a glass roof and be unscathed? At least show her creating a force field or something. Black Widow is a good character, but she’s a human spy. She can fight Cap or Bucky and survive but not a being like Proxima. For that matter Cap is a roided up dude. He can’t stand up to Thanos who made light work of Hulk. Did they even give Cap some sweet Wakanda nano armor or is he just wearing black leather? If not that last fight scene is even sillier. And Starlord’s silly little blasters against Thanos? Come on. At least the way he fought against Iron Man made some sense. I know this is not a new problem, but you’d think they’d be able to match up their opponents by weight class a bit better. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=11)