# Infinity war 'seen it' thread (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115 "2018-04-25T19:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/461 "2018-05-10T14:26:16Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Marvel and the directors swear that’s not happening. No Adam Warlock. Period. > > Take that with however much salt you need. No salt needed. The Russos and Kevin Feige lie and deceive fans and even their own cast and crew to protect the integrity of a script. It’s like your parents and Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/462 "2018-05-10T14:50:21Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Marvel and the directors swear that’s not happening. No Adam Warlock. Period. > > Take that with however much salt you need. Apparently there are similarities between Warlock and the thing that the religious fanatics in GOTG:2 made at the end. I have heard speculation that that is where he comes from. Could be under a different name, or they could be lying, or they could not know themselves yet what direction they are going with it. > [@muldoonthief](#): > > Except that Thanos had it way back in the mid-credits scene after Age of Ultron. Here’s an [article](https://movieweb.com/avengers-infinity-war-age-ultra-plot-hole-gauntlet/) where Russo at least implies Eitri built the gauntlet years ago. Some period of time passed between Dark World and Age of Ultron. As speculation, while Odin was in charge of Asgard, the foundry was protected. After Loki banished Odin, Thanos could have attacked the smithy then, and forced them to make the gauntlet. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/463 "2018-05-10T15:06:51Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Except that Thanos had it way back in the mid-credits scene after Age of Ultron. Here’s an [article](https://movieweb.com/avengers-infinity-war-age-ultra-plot-hole-gauntlet/) where Russo at least implies Eitri built the gauntlet years ago. He had \*A \*gauntlet, not necessarily \*THE \*gauntlet. Maybe it was just a model or a prototype. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/464 "2018-05-10T15:16:30Z")
Something that just occurred to me: Doctor Strange makes it absolutely clear that, if it comes down to the Stone or Peter or Tony, he doesn’t care whether Peter and Tony die as long as it keeps the Stone away from Thanos. Granted, there’s no payoff to that, because Doc then winds up in a situation where it makes no sense to play keep-away with the Stone because “fourteen million” this and “endgame” that, at which point Doc takes the deal and saves Tony’s life. But they want to flatly lay out that, oh, hey: the opposite? Totally in play; that’s who Doc is. So what I’m wondering is: what do you figure would’ve happened if Doc had been part of the chat where Vision said, _hey, guys, kill me now, huh? I’m like Captain America putting his life on the line, here; you have my blessing; what’s keeping you?_ ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/465 "2018-05-10T16:34:00Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > BTW, I haven’t noticed it mentioned here yet but **Adam Warlock is definitely making an appearance in the finale**. Somehow he and Captain Marvel must team up, maybe that explains where Captain Marvel has been for the last 20 years. Educated speculation on your part? Or has someone on the MCU production team said something at least teasing the possibility? Adam Warlock’s powers (un-nerfed) are an effective counter to a lot of what the powered-up Thanos can do. The writers would have to take great care to avoid Warlock’s appearance looking like a cheap way to resolve the Thanos issue. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/466 "2018-05-10T16:44:42Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Apparently there are similarities between Warlock and the thing that the religious fanatics in GOTG:2 made at the end. I have heard speculation that that is where he comes from. They specifically call him “Adam” in the post-credit scene. James Gunn also just tweeted that he won’t be Avenegers 4 and he may not necessarily be in GotG3. In response to “Why introduce him in the post-credits if he won’t be in the next movie,” responded with “Because I love Adam Warlock and didn’t want him left out of the MCU entirely. I wanted to create a space for him that would have to be filled at some time. Look at how long that first Thanos tease took to be fulfilled - and that turned out okay!” ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/467 "2018-05-10T17:51:08Z")
They went out of their way to cull the cast for the next movie, they are not going to bring in some random guy nobody knows or cares about just to give comic book readers nerd boners. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/468 "2018-05-10T19:38:00Z")
It occurred to me that Gamora could have prevented Thanos from getting the soul stone by killing herself right there and then. If she really was the only thing he loved, preventing him from performing the sacrifice by his own hands could maybe have denied Thanos his prize. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/469 "2018-05-10T19:50:31Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > It occurred to me that Gamora could have prevented Thanos from getting the soul stone by killing herself right there and then. If she really was the only thing he loved, preventing him from performing the sacrifice by his own hands could maybe have denied Thanos his prize. She tried to stab herself as soon as she realized it, but Thanos stopped her. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/470 "2018-05-10T19:52:55Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > It occurred to me that Gamora could have prevented Thanos from getting the soul stone by killing herself right there and then. If she really was the only thing he loved, preventing him from performing the sacrifice by his own hands could maybe have denied Thanos his prize. No need to kill herself, all she had to do was keep out of the way for a while. If she and Strange had done that then after a few days the god of hammers would have caught up to a much less powerful Thanos and buried that shiny new axe in his head. Job done. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/471 "2018-05-10T20:43:02Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > They went out of their way to cull the cast for the next movie, they are not going to bring in some random guy nobody knows or cares about just to give comic book readers nerd boners. Exactly. Captain Marvel isn’t going to be a major factor either. That’s too _deus ex machina._ The heroes we have are the ones that have to win, with great sacrifice. Any other plot would be cheating. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/472 "2018-05-10T20:54:01Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Exactly. Captain Marvel isn’t going to be a major factor either. That’s too _deus ex machina._ The heroes we have are the ones that have to win, with great sacrifice. Any other plot would be cheating. I’m not disagreeing here, I just find it amusing that a deus ex machina would be used to assist a god. Although Captain Marvel wouldn’t be all that big a surprise, given that she was who was called at the end. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/473 "2018-05-10T21:10:57Z")
I mean Captain Marvel will obviously play a big role, given that fact that her movie will be before the next one and was call in the post-credit scene. But that’s different from another major character being completely introduced in the next movie. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/474 "2018-05-11T00:38:59Z")
can someone tell me whats so special about capt. Marvel? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/475 "2018-05-11T00:43:57Z")
> [@simster](#): > > can someone tell me whats so special about capt. Marvel? She’s enormously powerful, on par with Thor at his best, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/476 "2018-05-11T14:01:17Z")
> [@simster](#): > > can someone tell me whats so special about capt. Marvel? My understanding of Captain Marvel was that the character was created for trademark reasons. If they don’t have a character by that name that they run every now and then, then someone else can, and that was something that was not desired by Marvel. So, her powers are pretty much whatever the plot demands that they be. She ranges from being just pretty strong to absorbing a white hole and essentially having god powers. She’ll be somewhere in between, whatever is useful to the plot. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/477 "2018-05-11T15:20:21Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > My understanding of Captain Marvel was that the character was created for trademark reasons. If they don’t have a character by that name that they run every now and then, then someone else can, and that was something that was not desired by Marvel. DC finally gave up, and now Shazam is officially Shazam instead of Captain Marvel. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/478 "2018-05-11T17:56:37Z")
Is Marvelman still, or again, Marvelman? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/479 "2018-05-11T18:04:58Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > DC finally gave up, and now Shazam is officially Shazam instead of Captain Marvel. Wait, so Shazam and Captain Marvel _were_ the same at some point? That’s what I remembered from childhood, but then the last n times I’ve seen them referenced they’ve been unrelated. So confused! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/480 "2018-05-11T18:28:42Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Wait, so Shazam and Captain Marvel _were_ the same at some point? That’s what I remembered from childhood, but then the last n times I’ve seen them referenced they’ve been unrelated. So confused! Just not [this Shazaam](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sinbad-movie-shazaam/). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=25)