# Infinity war 'seen it' thread (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115 "2018-04-25T19:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/41 "2018-04-27T15:19:46Z")
A policy not especially conducive to maintaining the universe in the desired state of gratitude, ISTM. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/42 "2018-04-27T15:38:14Z")
Really enjoyable… completely useless to anyone who hasn’t kept up with the franchise but, since I _have_ kept up with the franchise I really enjoyed it. Very frustrated about the fate of the Asgardians. All of Thor’s accomplishments and the hope that was set up at the end of _Ragnarok_ was _immediately_ shat upon. There is dialog in this film, from Thor himself even, that says that half of the Asgardians were killed but that doesn’t seem to fit with what we saw on screen. When the Guardians arrived to meet the distress signal, the ship was completely destroyed. They had to have all been dead. I honestly don’t think I’ll be able to form a full opinion until seeing _Captain Marvel_ and the _Infinity War_ sequel. Most of the major deaths lacked any kind of real emotional impact since we know from the announced slate of sequels that we saw a lot of people die who are not going to stay dead… not just the “dusting” deaths. Does anyone really believe there will be no Gamora in _GotG 3_? So, that says “Reset Button” to me and Reset Buttons usually suck. They’ve got a good track record, so I am holding out hope that they’ll figure out a way to make the Reset Button something interesting or clever or in some other way more satisfying that a Reset Button usually is but I’m not _100%_ sure it won’t be stupid and cheap. So, yeah, I guess it will be a year before I’ll be able to say with certainty whether or not _Footloose_ is still the greatest movie of all time. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/43 "2018-04-27T15:39:00Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The Gauntlet is not a single-use item, and Thanos is immortal. Maybe he plans to snap his fingers every 50 years or so. It looked crumpled and destroyed after its final task. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/44 "2018-04-27T16:10:45Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > It looked crumpled and destroyed after its final task. So did his arm on that side. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/45 "2018-04-27T16:15:17Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Very frustrated about the fate of the Asgardians. All of Thor’s accomplishments and the hope that was set up at the end of _Ragnarok_ was _immediately_ shat upon. There is dialog in this film, from Thor himself even, that says that half of the Asgardians were killed but that doesn’t seem to fit with what we saw on screen. When the Guardians arrived to meet the distress signal, the ship was completely destroyed. They had to have all been dead. I assume there just wasn’t enough time to show everything, I felt the same about the first gem and what happened in Xandar. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/46 "2018-04-27T16:21:44Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I assume there just wasn’t enough time to show everything, I felt the same about the first gem and what happened in Xandar. I feel pretty sure all the Asgardians aren’t dead. That would mess Thor and Valkyrie up too much. But Marvel may be holding the Xandar storyline for the introduction of [Nova](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_(Richard_Rider)) sometime during Phase 4. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/47 "2018-04-27T18:35:50Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > As I was watching that scene I thought “Hmm, that sounds like Hugo Weaving. Wait, isn’t Hugo Weaving already in the MCU?” Then they revealed him. “Oh wow! Yeah he is!!” > [@tavalla](#): > > [That wasn’t Hugo Weaving](http://au.ign.com/articles/2018/04/27/who-plays-red-skull-in-avengers-infinity-war-not-hugo-weaving). [Ross Marquand does impressions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFXTxQPV79w). Maybe he does a Hugo Weaving impression. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/48 "2018-04-27T18:47:53Z")
> [@MostlyClueless](#): > > I haven’t run the math yet, but I have the suspicion his “50% off” button is both racist and sexist. Yes, I’m pissed about Black Panther never getting any sequels… There will be Black Panther sequels. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/49 "2018-04-27T19:13:46Z")
I just came back. I enjoyed it. It felt like a really good episode of a TV show I really like. I do think if another franchise had tried an ending like this that is definitely going to get reset I think people would get angry but the MCU has a lot of good will built up. When I saw the Red Skull I thought my prediction was going to come to pass but instead the decades made the Red Skull mellow and weird. So what was the Arrested Development reference? The credits mentioned they used a character with permission. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/50 "2018-04-27T19:30:27Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > So what was the Arrested Development reference? The credits mentioned they used a character with permission. There was a bald blue guy with glasses a mustache and short shorts prominently shown in one brief shot in the collector’s place. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/51 "2018-04-27T19:50:17Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > There was a bald blue guy with glasses a mustache and short shorts prominently shown in one brief shot in the collector’s place. Ha! I missed that. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/52 "2018-04-27T22:35:29Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I assume there just wasn’t enough time to show everything, I felt the same about the first gem and what happened in Xandar. I’m thinking the next Guardians of the Galaxy will deal with the fallout from that. ---
**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/53 "2018-04-28T02:37:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That said, I think the MCU will leave anybody not dusted dead at the end of _Avengers 4_. But, as you mentioned, I also think the fix will require great sacrifice by Tony and Steve, among others. I saw a comment elsewhere online pointing out that Strange sat through 14 million versions of the fight and they only won one - then he didn’t stop Quill from punching and waking Thanos, and gave up the Time Stone to save Stark. The guess is that the fight he went ahead to see the end of wasn’t just the punch-up with Thanos on Titan - it was the overall war. Because of what he saw, he knew that, whatever happened, they’d lose the fight on Titan, but there was a way to win the overall war - but Stark is key to it, he has to be alive when the time comes. It explains the sudden change from saying he’d let Stark and Spider Man die to save the Time Stone if necessary. That said, I still think the number of times a Stone was handed over to prevent someone else’s suffering (not just Loki and Gamora - but Strange, Eitri crafted the Gauntlet for the same reason, Vision gave his life) was too often for it to be poor writing. It’s deliberate, and I’m pretty sure it’ll come back into play at the end of Avengers 4: Whatever That One Will Be Called. It’s also possible that the dusted victims aren’t dead exactly - but inside the Soul Stone, able to be restored. In the comics, it has that capability, and a certain amount of awareness or sentience. Not that the movies follow the comics all that closely, but I wouldn’t rule it out. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/54 "2018-04-28T03:13:38Z")
A couple of impressions: –Titan, a moon, has its own moon? That’s like Scooby Doo, a dog, having his own dog (which also didn’t work out so well). –I was really expecting Peter Dinklage to show up as Pip the Troll, but Gierrodur was much cooler. –In the comics that this is semi-adapting, all the disappeared people come back with a wave of the Infinity Gauntlet. Also, Loki comes back as a little kid who is so much more interesting than his adult self, he gets his own series. –If Wanda can destroy an infinity gem, why that one instead of one of the gems Thanos already holds? –It’s eight years later, and Peter Parker is still in high school. Glad to see the movies honoring the concept of “Marvel Time.” –This is truly a clusterfuck o’ heroes. Good thing the X-Men and FF aren’t in the fold yet! –If Ego and (in the comics, anyway) The Collector are revealed to have offspring, do they have to surrender their membersip in the “Elders of the Universe” club, since they are no longer the “last of their kind”? –I thought James Cameron’s [comments about the superhero glut](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/james-cameron-bored-avengers-movies-article-1.3948870?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NydnRss+%28Top+Stories+-+NY+Daily+News%29&utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results) were just sour grapes, but he has a point. This isn’t science fiction and, with no core integrity to what can happen from one scene to the next, it’s barely storytelling. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/55 "2018-04-28T03:59:54Z")
> [@tavalla](#): > > It’s also possible that the dusted victims aren’t dead exactly - but inside the Soul Stone, able to be restored. In the comics, it has that capability, and a certain amount of awareness or sentience. Not that the movies follow the comics all that closely, but I wouldn’t rule it out. For Avengers 4: [Set photos](https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=avengers+4+photos&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-mf0.heartyhosting.com%2Fsites%2Fmensfitness.com%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Fgallery_details_image%2Fpublic%2Favengers4-2.jpg%3Fitok%3DyIQZHy-y#id=1&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-mf0.heartyhosting.com%2Fsites%2Fmensfitness.com%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Fgallery_details_image%2Fpublic%2Favengers4-2.jpg%3Fitok%3DyIQZHy-y&action=click) for the next movie indicate that there will be time travel, at least as far back as the first Avengers movie. ---
**Author:** ![GoodOldKJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GoodOldKJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOldKJ)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/56 "2018-04-28T07:03:53Z")
I liked the movie. Didn’t think it was the greatest movie ever like a lot of people seem to feel but it was a good film. The scale of it is huge! Felt like a Star Wars movie in a little of ways. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/57 "2018-04-28T07:43:16Z")
> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#): > > –It’s eight years later, and Peter Parker is still in high school. Glad to see the movies honoring the concept of “Marvel Time.” We only met Peter Parker 2 years ago, he was 15 and in high school now he’s 17 and still in high school. Seems reasonable to me. _Spider-man: Homecoming_, though released in the summer of last year, took place during the fall semester. So, this newest movie isn’t even a new school year from the last movie. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/58 "2018-04-28T09:29:58Z")
> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#): > > A couple of impressions: > > –If Wanda can destroy an infinity gem, why that one instead of one of the gems Thanos already holds? Wanda can destroy THAT infinity gem because it’s the one that created her and where her powers come from. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/59 "2018-04-28T10:10:41Z")
Haven’t seen it, but I read the plot synopsis on Wikipedia an hour ago. In my perfect Avengers 4, the climactic scene will involve Thanos just moments away from sealing his victory for all time, against any hope of redemption, when suddenly, into the action strides [spoiler]Mickey Mouse, in full Sorcerer’s Apprentice garb, brandishing his master Yesnid’s wand of power. “Oh, yeah?” he will chirp in his adorable squeak. “Well, this is MY dream!” Whereupon he will shoot balls of mystic pyrotechnics down Thanos’s throat, destroying him utterly. The music will swell in triumph, as all of the good guys reappear, good as new, and ready to return to their everyday lives of . . . good-guying.[/spoiler] _That’s_ how you end a cinematic epic adventure! ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/60 "2018-04-28T11:35:59Z")
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