# Infinity war 'seen it' thread (spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 25, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115 "2018-04-25T19:56:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/121 "2018-04-30T15:28:32Z")

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Oh man, my daughter both cried and _was pissed._ She loves Tom Holland, so the horribly tragic way Spidey dusted really got to her, and no amount of me explaining the difference between dead and _mostly dead_ would help. On the way home, I tried to explain Capt Marvel, Dr. Strange’s foreshadowing and everything, but she was just mad. Thanos is a very scary villain because he doesn’t see himself as evil - he absolutely believes he is doing what is best (and so do his followers).

To touch on a lighter point, I laughed pretty hard when the GoTG met Thor and the whole “angel and pirate” and Star-lord being very jealous storyline.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/122 "2018-04-30T15:28:55Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Again, not trying to slam the movie, just trying to articulate a key difference to my perception of Thanos to see if I was the only one.

FWIW, I’m 100% unfamiliar with Thanos from the comic. I’m just a D&D dork who saw an alignment discussion 😃

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/123 "2018-04-30T15:29:27Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> I spent the drive home from the movie updating my wife on who all the various characters were. 🙂 Best question: Was the insect girl The Wasp? No, honey, that was Mantis.

“There’s an Ant-Man _and_ a Spider-Man?”

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/124 "2018-04-30T15:31:42Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> My favorite was Peter knowing a lot earlier than the others, because of his spider sense, that he was fucked.

Tom Holland has a very good “scared kid” voice. Having once heard that voice from one of my own kids, I would be a very happy person if he never did it again.

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**Author:** ![Galwegian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galwegian/32/3426_2.png) [@Galwegian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galwegian)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/125 "2018-04-30T15:36:25Z")

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> [@GESancMan](#):
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> Thanos said “you should have gone for the head!” Perhaps there will be some big cosmic do-over, and Thor will do just that.

There was also an odd little line from Thanos about a little cut he got to the cheek: something like “All that effort for just a tiny drop of blood.” Felt like some foreshadowing going on there.

I thought for a moment that there was going to be some kind of poison or tailored virus, but if there are timey-wimey shenanigans in store, they will definitely revisit that fight blow-by-blow.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/126 "2018-04-30T15:36:37Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Tom Holland has a very good “scared kid” voice. Having once heard that voice from one of my own kids, I would be a very happy person if he never did it again.

Jesus Christ yes. That’s the scene that I can’t kick out of my brain. I think I’ll be skipping that scene in any future watching of Infinity War, or I’ll have to immediately watch the scene in Avengers 4 where he’s resurrected and immediately kicks Thanos’ wrinkled mauve ass (I presume).

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**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/127 "2018-04-30T15:37:22Z")

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I can’t wait to see how they explain Captain Marvel’s absence from all of this. Not just this, but any previous Avengers-type event. Sokovia, New York, etc. Where has she been, and why did Fury wait until NOW to send her a distress message? Was she all like, [“8 or higher, bro. 8 or higher.”](http://how-i-met-your-mother.wikia.com/wiki/Eight_or_higher) And Fury, in his one-eyed wisdom was like, “Crazy ass robot killing machine? Nope, only a 7.”

Glad those answers will come (in some degree) before next year.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/128 "2018-04-30T15:46:15Z")

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> [@Galwegian](#):
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> There was also an odd little line from Thanos about a little cut he got to the cheek: something like “All that effort for just a tiny drop of blood.” Felt like some foreshadowing going on there.
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> I thought for a moment that there was going to be some kind of poison or tailored virus, but if there are timey-wimey shenanigans in store, they will definitely revisit that fight blow-by-blow.

Yeah, I thought that Stark had released some of the suit’s nano-thingies into Thanos that would do something but, nope. Stark just got beat up instead.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/129 "2018-04-30T15:52:27Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> Speaking of which, is this the first film to indicate that Wanda and Vision were dating? I mean, I know that’s comic book canon, but the last I saw of them movie-wise (in _Civil War_) there was, at most, some very mild flirting going on. I haven’t seen all the Marvel films, so I was just wondering if this has been established elsewhere, or this is the introduction of the relationship and we’re just supposed to go with it.

Well, I’d say the previous flirting and affection were the _introduction_ of the relationship (and if I wasn’t aware of the relationship in the comics, I probably would not have read anything at all into their interactions in _Civil Way_), but yes the newest movie is the first we’ve seen of them actually pursuing a romantic connection.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/130 "2018-04-30T16:00:48Z")

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Overall, I liked it. Solid movie that did the most it could with what it had. Stuffing THAT many characters with that much star power in it was awe inspiring. A couple minor quibbles.

It rode the “is this live action, or a cartoon?” line VERY hard.

The action was way too frenetic and close up. I had a hard time making out what was going on. This was especially bad in the initial Vison/Scarlet Witch vs the Thanos henchmen scene, and probably worse because it was set at night.

The ending. I don’t mind a movie with a cliffhanger. However, due to the fact that if you know anything, you know there is going to be an undoing of much of what happened, this didn’t feel like a movie with a cliffhanger, it felt like half a movie. I don’t like half movies. I don’t know how they could have done the ending differently, but I wish they did.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/131 "2018-04-30T16:23:54Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Well, I’d say the previous flirting and affection were the _introduction_ of the relationship (and if I wasn’t aware of the relationship in the comics, I probably would not have read anything at all into their interactions in _Civil Way_), but yes the newest movie is the first we’ve seen of them actually pursuing a romantic connection.

Am I misremembering, or weren’t Vision and Scarlet Witch living together in _CA: Civil War_? I remember a scene with the two in the kitchen where maybe Vision was doing some cooking? And Vision was wearing a smart tan (?) sweater, looking especially domestic?

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/132 "2018-04-30T16:30:20Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> Am I misremembering, or weren’t Vision and Scarlet Witch living together in _CA: Civil War_? I remember a scene with the two in the kitchen where maybe Vision was doing some cooking? And Vision was wearing a smart tan (?) sweater, looking especially domestic?

That was in their nifty, new hideout, not someone’s house.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/133 "2018-04-30T16:55:50Z")

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I’m thinking this is the perfect way to bring in the Great Lakes Avengers and, more importantly, Squirrel Girl. Squirrel Girl will single-handedly defeat Thanos and push the reset button.

Yeah, yeah, I know. Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel is going to be the solution. But I still like my idea better.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/134 "2018-04-30T17:00:20Z")

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Loved it, and I had to allow myself to feel the deaths and not meta-game about knowing that there is no way they can afford to kill some of these franchise characters.

Someone please tell me, however, why Stark couldn’t just cut off Thanos’ arm when he and Spidey were trying to pull of the Gauntlet?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/135 "2018-04-30T17:08:35Z")

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> [@Algher](#):
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> Someone please tell me, however, why Stark couldn’t just cut off Thanos’ arm when he and Spidey were trying to pull of the Gauntlet?

WAG / fanwank: None of Stark’s weaponry would have been sufficiently powerful to do so quickly. For all the firepower that Tony threw at Thanos during their fight, all he netted was a scratch on the Titan’s cheek.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/136 "2018-04-30T17:09:35Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> WAG / fanwank: None of Stark’s weaponry would have been sufficiently powerful to do so quickly. For all the firepower that Tony threw at Thanos during their fight, all he netted was a scratch on the Titan’s cheek.

Also they were trying to keep him asleep.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/137 "2018-04-30T17:32:38Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> it would have been ironic if Thanos himself dusted - due to his ‘random’ selection of who goes /stays.

I think Thanos survived his finger-snap for the same reason Rocket was the only non-founding Avenger to survive: Thanos doesn’t actually want to exterminate any species, and both he and Rocket are the only little living examples of their race. The kill percentage of any population of 1 gets automatically rounded down to zero.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/138 "2018-04-30T17:49:01Z")

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> [@Algher](#):
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> Someone please tell me, however, why Stark couldn’t just cut off Thanos’ arm when he and Spidey were trying to pull of the Gauntlet?

Unless he cut it off with one instant slice, Thanos would have woke up and been back in the fight (as seen when Starlord hits him in the face).

For all they did to get him to that point (dropping a building on him, explosions, etc) he was barely scratched so cutting his arm off effortlessly was pretty unlikely.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/139 "2018-04-30T17:50:53Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think Thanos survived his finger-snap for the same reason Rocket was the only non-founding Avenger to survive: Thanos doesn’t actually want to exterminate any species, and both he and Rocket are the only little living examples of their race. The kill percentage of any population of 1 gets automatically rounded down to zero.

Oooo I like this.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/140 "2018-04-30T17:51:28Z")

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At the end of the movie, Steve Rogers is sitting on the ground next to Vision’s corpse. A few seconds goes by and Steve says “Oh no…” and then the scene immediately cuts to Thanos on his farm remembering Gamora and enjoying the sunset. Someone suggested that this was Steve realizing he was dusting, but they are leaving it for the sequel.

Did anybody else notice this particular scene/vocalization? I’m going to see the movie again soon, but was wondering if you guys picked up on this at all.

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