# Infinity war 'seen it' thread (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115 "2018-04-25T19:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/141 "2018-04-30T17:53:54Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Oooo I like this. Wasn’t Groot also the last of his species? ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/142 "2018-04-30T17:56:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I think Thanos survived his finger-snap for the same reason Rocket was the only non-founding Avenger to survive: Thanos doesn’t actually want to exterminate any species, and both he and Rocket are the only little living examples of their race. The kill percentage of any population of 1 gets automatically rounded down to zero. So why did Star Lord/Peter Quill bite it? He is the only hybrid of Ego and Humanity. Are you suggesting that Ego has other children he didn’t murder yet that survived? Or that there are other living Ego entities that didn’t die off during the end of GotG:II? ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/143 "2018-04-30T18:16:01Z")
> [@Serenata67](#): > > So why did Star Lord/Peter Quill bite it? He is the only hybrid of Ego and Humanity. > > Are you suggesting that Ego has other children he didn’t murder yet that survived? Or that there are other living Ego entities that didn’t die off during the end of GotG:II? Aren’t Benicio Del Toro and Jeff Goldblum the same thing that Ego was? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/144 "2018-04-30T18:22:07Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Wasn’t Groot also the last of his species? Possibly so – I believe that this is the case in the comic continuity, but I’m not sure if it’s ever been established in the MCU continuity. But, as I noted upthread, Groot isn’t entirely gone, and the end of GotG illustrated that it doesn’t take much of Groot to grow a new Groot. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/145 "2018-04-30T18:24:48Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I’m thinking this is the perfect way to bring in the Great Lakes Avengers and, more importantly, Squirrel Girl. Squirrel Girl will single-handedly defeat Thanos and push the reset button. > > Yeah, yeah, I know. Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel is going to be the solution. But I still like my idea better. Your idea sounds like fun! ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/146 "2018-04-30T18:30:00Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Possibly so – I believe that this is the case in the comic continuity, but I’m not sure if it’s ever been established in the MCU continuity. But, as I noted upthread, Groot isn’t entirely gone, and the end of GotG illustrated that it doesn’t take much of Groot to grow a new Groot. 🙂 They taught the Groot language in Asgard (“It’s an elective.”), so it seems reasonable there’s a whole species of Groots. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/147 "2018-04-30T18:38:53Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > They taught the Groot language in Asgard (“It’s an elective.”), so it seems reasonable there’s a whole species of Groots. Or, at least, there _was_. Thor also noted that he’s 1500 years old, so it’s entirely possible that Groot’s species was wiped out at some point between Thor’s schooling and the present day. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/148 "2018-04-30T18:45:28Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Your idea sounds like fun! I just want an official MCU Quin-Jetta. Imagine the marketing tie-in with VW. ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/149 "2018-04-30T18:46:57Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > Aren’t Benicio Del Toro and Jeff Goldblum the same thing that Ego was? They’re all elders… but I always understood the “elders of the universe” to be more like the Jedi council. Many species are represented, but they are not necessarily the same species. According to Wikipedia (which, I know, can be wrong), “[The Elders of the Universe are the last survivors of \*\*otherwise extinct races](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elders_of_the_Universe)\*\*” [bolding mine] So yes, they’re elders. But no, they’re not the same species. So according to the previous hypothesis (of not wanting to exterminate the last member of any given species), there are three possible meanings. 1. Ego still exists. (not likely) 2. Other offspring of Ego still exist. 3. When Ego stopped existing, Peter became pure human somehow and not some Ego-human hybrid. …or is there some other meaning? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/150 "2018-04-30T18:51:30Z")
> [@Algher](#): > > Someone please tell me, however, why Stark couldn’t just cut off Thanos’ arm when he and Spidey were trying to pull of the Gauntlet? After seeing Wong slice off the other dude’s hand with his sorceror’s portal, I’m a little annoyed Strange never tried the same trick with Thanos. Honestly, those portals seem a little OP. Feels like most of the fights should have ended in 2 seconds with Strange dropping a portal on someone and closing it halfway through their body. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/151 "2018-04-30T18:54:57Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I think Thanos survived his finger-snap for the same reason Rocket was the only non-founding Avenger to survive: Thanos doesn’t actually want to exterminate any species, and both he and Rocket are the only little living examples of their race. The kill percentage of any population of 1 gets automatically rounded down to zero. I think you are giving him too much credit. He’s no hero. He would ensure his sick plan would be no threat to himself the same way that Magneto was willing to sacrifice Rogue in the first X Men movie when he could have just sacrificed himself. It calls bullshit on all their high minded delusional talk. ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/152 "2018-04-30T19:00:18Z")
> [@Serenata67](#): > > They’re all elders… but I always understood the “elders of the universe” to be more like the Jedi council. Many species are represented, but they are not necessarily the same species. > > According to Wikipedia (which, I know, can be wrong), “[The Elders of the Universe are the last survivors of \*\*otherwise extinct races](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elders_of_the_Universe)\*\*” [bolding mine] > > So yes, they’re elders. But no, they’re not the same species. So according to the previous hypothesis (of not wanting to exterminate the last member of any given species), there are three possible meanings. > > 1. Ego still exists. (not likely) > 2. Other offspring of Ego still exist. > 3. When Ego stopped existing, Peter became pure human somehow and not some Ego-human hybrid. > > …or is there some other meaning? Gotcha. Thanks for the info. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/153 "2018-04-30T19:05:02Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > After seeing Wong slice off the other dude’s hand with his sorceror’s portal, I’m a little annoyed Strange never tried the same trick with Thanos. Honestly, those portals seem a little OP. Feels like most of the fights should have ended in 2 seconds with Strange dropping a portal on someone and closing it halfway through their body. Yeah, I think that that’s a tactic that can only be allowed to work when it fits the plot. 🙂 It reminds me of “three ways you can kill someone instantly with the Stargate” (spoilered because it’s topic drift): 1. Open the Stargate while someone is standing in front of it (the “wave” that comes out as the gate activates will annihilate them). 2. Stick half of your opponent’s body through an open Stargate’s event horizon, and then shut down the Stargate, which effectively cuts the victim in half, a la the Wong portal trick. 3. If someone is attempting to arrive at the gate located at Stargate Command, don’t open the iris. Anything coming through won’t be able to be reformed, and will be destroyed upon hitting the iris. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/154 "2018-04-30T19:12:27Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Yeah, I think that that’s a tactic that can only be allowed to work when it fits the plot. 🙂 It reminds me of “three ways you can kill someone instantly with the Stargate” (spoilered because it’s topic drift) How come Dr Strange doesn’t just crash a spaceship at light speed into Thanos? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/155 "2018-04-30T19:27:21Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > At the end of the movie, Steve Rogers is sitting on the ground next to Vision’s corpse. A few seconds goes by and Steve says “Oh no…” and then the scene immediately cuts to Thanos on his farm remembering Gamora and enjoying the sunset. Someone suggested that this was Steve realizing he was dusting, but they are leaving it for the sequel. > > Did anybody else notice this particular scene/vocalization? I’m going to see the movie again soon, but was wondering if you guys picked up on this at all. I noticed this too, but I thought he said “Oh God” because he was realizing what was happening to everyone else. You bring up a point of mine though: Not even Captain America in this movie. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/156 "2018-04-30T19:43:46Z")
As far as Thanos alignment goes I’d say he’s definitely lawful evil. Every person whos life was traded for an infinity stone was spared, Nebula Stark and Thor. ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/157 "2018-04-30T19:46:33Z")
The attack on Wakanda…was it just me or did those things-that-there-were-many-of look sort of…Venom-ish? I pointed it out to Husband and he agreed, but they may or may not be related. I know that there’s an upcoming Venom movie, but it’s from Sony so it may or may not relate. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/158 "2018-04-30T19:46:44Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > As far as Thanos alignment goes I’d say he’s definitely lawful evil. Every person whos life was traded for an infinity stone was spared, Nebula Stark and Thor. I mean, Thor was left in the cold of space. He wasn’t necessarily spared. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/159 "2018-04-30T19:54:03Z")
In D&D alignment terms Thanos is definitely Lawful Evil. In Magic the Gathering Color terms he is White Black ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/160 "2018-04-30T19:58:51Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > After seeing Wong slice off the other dude’s hand with his sorceror’s portal, I’m a little annoyed Strange never tried the same trick with Thanos. Honestly, those portals seem a little OP. Feels like most of the fights should have ended in 2 seconds with Strange dropping a portal on someone and closing it halfway through their body. or atleast keep the other guy off his toes while he re-appears. ‘head shot’ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=9)