# Infinity war 'seen it' thread (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115 "2018-04-25T19:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/161 "2018-04-30T20:13:30Z")
> [@Serenata67](#): > > So why did Star Lord/Peter Quill bite it? He is the only hybrid of Ego and Humanity. > > Are you suggesting that Ego has other children he didn’t murder yet that survived? Or that there are other living Ego entities that didn’t die off during the end of GotG:II? Wasn’t Mantis the last of her kind as well? ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/162 "2018-04-30T20:19:08Z")
> [@Skara\_Brae](#): > > Wasn’t Mantis the last of her kind as well? I believe so… We’re poking holes all over this theory… ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/163 "2018-04-30T20:20:50Z")
Was Drax the last of his, or was it just his family that was killed? ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/164 "2018-04-30T20:22:20Z")
Question, since we’re here: Near the beginning of the movie, Dr. Strange shoots this spell at the round space ship. It appears to dissipate and do nothing. Strange then gives Tony a wink. What was that about? I thought that was gonna do something later but unless I missed it, it didn’t play into the plot. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/165 "2018-04-30T20:23:37Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Question, since we’re here: > > Near the beginning of the movie, Dr. Strange shoots this spell at the round space ship. It appears to dissipate and do nothing. Strange then gives Tony a wink. I saw it the other way. Strange tries to bust out some hocus pocus on the ship and it does squat. Stark gives a “Well, _anyway_…” look. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/166 "2018-04-30T20:28:55Z")
I thought Strange stopped the wind blowing everything around. The wink was “look what I can do.” ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/167 "2018-04-30T20:42:36Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > In D&D alignment terms Thanos is definitely Lawful Evil. > > In Magic the Gathering Color terms he is White Black But wasn’t comics Thanos aligned as Chaotic Evil? It’s no big deal for the movie, but there was a big awareness leading up to A:IW’s opening that both Death and Adam Warlock would not be portrayed from the Infinity Gauntlet comics, so knowledgeable folks wouldn’t be put off by those big changes. Okay, cool - but changing Thanos’s alignment is at least a big of a deal, in terms of varying from comics canon. Isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/168 "2018-04-30T21:11:51Z")
> [@Serenata67](#): > > So why did Star Lord/Peter Quill bite it? He is the only hybrid of Ego and Humanity. > > Are you suggesting that Ego has other children he didn’t murder yet that survived? Or that there are other living Ego entities that didn’t die off during the end of GotG:II? I’d forgotten about Peter when I wrote that, but even so, I think it holds up. It seems virtually certain that he’s not Ego’s only remaining child. The dude had, literally, thousands of them, and was so bad at keeping track of them that he had to hire pirates to go around the galaxy collecting them for him. > [@D\_Odds](#): > > Wasn’t Groot also the last of his species? > [@Skara\_Brae](#): > > Wasn’t Mantis the last of her kind as well? > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Was Drax the last of his, or was it just his family that was killed? No, on all three. Drax’s wife and daughter were murdered, not his whole species. Mantis was an orphan when Ego found her on her homeworld. And we literally see Groot reproduce on screen, and all it takes is some clippings and potting soil. If Groot was the last of his species, it’s only because he has a Giant Panda level disinterest in maintaining his own species. > [@Serenata67](#): > > I believe so… We’re poking holes all over this theory… Ha! You wish! 😃 > [@Quimby](#): > > I think you are giving him too much credit. He’s no hero. He would ensure his sick plan would be no threat to himself the same way that Magneto was willing to sacrifice Rogue in the first X Men movie when he could have just sacrificed himself. It calls bullshit on all their high minded delusional talk. I don’t know what credit you think I’m giving him by pointing out that his plan was to only murder 50% of the members of every species in the universe, not 100%, and I’m genuinely baffled that you think I’m somehow arguing that Thanos was _heroic_. Yeah, no shit he’s not a hero. He murdered _half the universe_. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/169 "2018-04-30T21:58:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > He murdered _half the universe_. Well… everyone needs a hobby. ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/170 "2018-04-30T22:25:37Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > The attack on Wakanda…was it just me or did those things-that-there-were-many-of look sort of…Venom-ish? I pointed it out to Husband and he agreed, but they may or may not be related. I know that there’s an upcoming Venom movie, but it’s from Sony so it may or may not relate. Those are [outriders](http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Outriders_(Race)). Other than a passing resemblance they are not related to Venom’s symbiote. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/171 "2018-04-30T23:03:30Z")
Proxima Midnight was seriously Carrie Coon? holy shit. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/172 "2018-04-30T23:12:13Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I thought Strange stopped the wind blowing everything around. The wink was “look what I can do.” Now I need to rewatch it. I thought it was Strange getting rid of all the bystanders somehow, because he does it right after Stark says they need to clear the area and establish a perimeter. Kinda like the beginning of Doctor Strange when the Ancient One moves the street fight into some sort of pocket dimension. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/173 "2018-04-30T23:16:37Z")
I saw this yesterday. Not as impressed as others seem to be. Thanos had variable power. He could defeat the Hulk, but others stood against him far longer than they should have been able to. Even StarLord ran around and shot him with effect, as though his gun should be able to hurt someone who can take a Hulk-sized pounding. To be fair, Spidey and Quill avoided direct confrontations. It seems like only The Hulk, Thor, Dr. Strange, and Scarlet Witch should have been able to credibly stand against him. Maybe Vision , but I’m not really as familiar with his power, and he spent the entire movie having his ass handed to him by Thanos’ flunkies. Iron Man should have been able to fight and distract him since he can stand up to the Hulk to a degree, and I assume the nanotech suit is as good or better than the Hulkbuster. I wouldn’t think he could defeat Thanos, though, unless he could get the gauntlet away, or lure him into a nuclear blast or something similarly tricky. He lacks the power to seriously hurt him. It seems like Dr Strange should have been able to do more, as others have said above. There was a lack of creativity with his character, focusing mainly on hitting Thanos with energy attacks. I REALLY liked it when he multiplied and a hundred Strange’s tried to bind Thanos, as that was one of the more creative things Strange tried. I guess the problem with a character like Strange is that he’s so damned powerful that, if he actually put thought into his attacks, or planned out some nasty surprises in advance to hammer/trap/banish a very powerful enemy, no one could stand against him. Seems like the writers depend on him being stupid to make a story last more than five minutes. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/174 "2018-04-30T23:24:41Z")
The difference in power levels depended on whether he was using the stones or not. He took a pounding from Hulk until he used the power stone. Thanos sees himself as the good guy and at least tries to understand why other good guys are fighting him, so he mostly holds back unless he really has too. And Dr. Strange DID use his most powerful power, seeing the future. After that every single thing he did was what needed to be done in order to follow the one and only path to victory. ---
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/175 "2018-04-30T23:33:51Z")
Too bad they don’t have the rights to FF. Haven’t Galactus and Doom both defeated Thanos? Galactus would have motivation, since Thanos is reducing his food supply. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/176 "2018-04-30T23:38:17Z")
> [@P-man](#): > > Too bad they don’t have the rights to FF. Haven’t Galactus and Doom both defeated Thanos? Galactus would have motivation, since Thanos is reducing his food supply. huh?..Galactus eats planets… not people. People are like seasame seeds on the bun. He’s interested in the burger. ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/177 "2018-04-30T23:38:50Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > The attack on Wakanda…was it just me or did those things-that-there-were-many-of look sort of…Venom-ish? I pointed it out to Husband and he agreed, but they may or may not be related. I know that there’s an upcoming Venom movie, but it’s from Sony so it may or may not relate. > [@P-man](#): > > Too bad they don’t have the rights to FF. Haven’t Galactus and Doom both defeated Thanos? Galactus would have motivation, since Thanos is reducing his food supply. Galactus can eat any planet he finds sutable regardless of whether it has life or not. The problem is he doesn’t **care** if it has life or not. ---
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/178 "2018-04-30T23:46:33Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > huh?..Galactus eats planets… not people. People are like seasame seeds on the bun. He’s interested in the burger. You’re saying Galactic doesn’t like sesame seeds? I get what you’re saying, but if a planet with life on it doesn’t satisfy him more, why would he bother with earth when there are 4 larger planets in our solar system? Or would be be afraid the Gas giants would make him fart too much? ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/179 "2018-04-30T23:51:44Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > If I heard it correctly, it was _Hulka Hulka Burnin’ Fudge_, thankyouverymuch. And wasn’t Tony’s Ben & Jerry’s flavor _Stark Raving Nuts_? _Stark Raving Hazelnuts_, actually. I just got back from watching it, and I’m still processing my reaction. I thought it was great! It struck me in the car heading home that all of this must be part of Dr. Strange’s one possibility of victory, particularly with his last words to Tony Stark. I hadn’t put together how many times Thanos got a stone because of someone trying to save someone else, but having had that made clear, it clearly has to have some ultimate meaning. I loved Fury’s last moment cutting him off right in the middle of Samuel L. Jackson’s favorite profanity. I also loved when Peter Quill said for everyone to put on their mean faces right before they arrived at the site of the Asgardian ship, and Mantis did her very best. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115/180 "2018-04-30T23:59:06Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > And Dr. Strange DID use his most powerful power, seeing the future. After that every single thing he did was what needed to be done in order to follow the one and only path to victory. You know what? Fair enough. I don’t understand why that path couldn’t include cutting off Thanos’ arm in a portal and dumping the gauntlet in his mansion, or in a black hole or neutron star or some void, but that’s a fair reason. Still think someone with Dr Strange’s power and knowledge should bring more on the banishment/disintegration/unmaking/beatdown front, but there you go. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/infinity-war-seen-it-thread-spoilers/813115.md?page=10)