# "Influencer," "Content Creator" -- are these now considered "real jobs" and career paths? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 1, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981 "2023-04-01T14:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/61 "2023-04-03T13:10:05Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > [@Arcite](#): > > > > Those people don’t call themselves “content creators.” It’s when they’re whoring themselves out online that they need a euphemism. > > Noooooo. This is completely wrong. Video game content creators constantly use the term, and talk about other content creators and the community, etc So do reviewers like Lindsay Ellis, travel bloggers like Steve Marsh, shoetubers like Mike Rich, mudlarks like Si Finds… ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/62 "2023-04-03T13:12:04Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > So do reviewers like Lindsay Ellis, travel bloggers like Steve Marsh, shoetubers like Mike Rich, mudlarks like Si Finds As well as science and history communicators on YouTube. Really, they’re all content creators, and assuming that the only content of interest a woman can create is porn says a LOT more about the person making the assumption than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/63 "2023-04-03T13:14:14Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > So do reviewers like Lindsay Ellis, travel bloggers like Steve Marsh, shoetubers like Mike Rich, mudlarks like Si Finds > > As well as science and history communicators on YouTube. > > Really, they’re all content creators, and assuming that the only content of interest a woman can create is porn says a LOT more about the person making the assumption than anything else Just so, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/64 "2023-04-03T14:31:52Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Really, they’re all content creators, and assuming that the only content of interest a woman can create is porn says a LOT more about the person making the assumption than anything else. It must be awful to be a female content creator and know that some people will assume you are, and I quote, “whoring [your]self out”. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/65 "2023-04-03T16:26:37Z")
I’m not sure what term could be used instead anyway. Typically an independent content creator is performing all of the production roles, as well as being the presenter - not necessarily to the same level of competence and quality of the individual broadcast media roles of scriptwriter, lighting technician, camera operator, editor, producer etc, but quality isn’t the point. They’re doing something that is an amalgam of many different traditional job titles, so it needs a job title of its own. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/66 "2023-04-03T18:14:01Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > [You Can’t Make it on YouTube Anymore | by Hank Green | Medium](https://medium.com/@hankgreen/you-cant-make-it-on-youtube-anymore-10977c194a4f) I remember hearing a pair of musicians interviewed on _All Things Considered_ back in circa 2010. They made a living almost entirely from making YouTube videos, which still seemed novel at the time. Like that article says, from what I understand YouTube doesn’t pay nearly as well as they used to; now you’ve got to have sponsorships, Patreon supporters, etc., in order to actually make any real money. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/67 "2023-04-03T19:50:49Z")
I’ll be sure to ask the dog groomer I follow where her OnlyFans is. How ridiculous and sexist to think women can only produce porn. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/68 "2023-04-03T20:25:22Z")
Dog groomers aren’t above whoring themselves out yanno! Like when I see James,who singlehand sails his boat all around the world, thanking his patrons while wearing his form fitting bvd’s I want to give him a tip sometimes 😝 It’s gott get stressful always coming up with new content. And there’s a shit ton of channels out there. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/69 "2023-04-03T21:44:18Z")
I’m pretty sure this dog groomer doesn’t do porn, not that there’s anything wrong with it or sex work. She does Youtube so she can support herself while doing free grooms for mostly severely matted dogs and their owners who need help. She’s pretty cool. > **[Rover's Makeover Dog Grooming](https://www.youtube.com/@RoversMakeover)** > > Share your videos with friends, family, and the world ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/70 "2023-04-04T00:45:14Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > I’ll be sure to ask the dog groomer I follow where her OnlyFans is. How ridiculous and sexist to think women can only produce porn. > [@Helena330](#): > > She does Youtube so she can support herself while doing free grooms for mostly severely matted dogs and their owners who need help. See, I was sure you meant [Girl with the Dogs](https://www.youtube.com/c/girlwiththedogs), because…well…that’s the successful YouTube pet groomer I’ve heard of 😉. Shouldn’t be shocking that there is more than one doing okay, but there you go - the YouTube platform contains multitudes in duplicate. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/71 "2023-04-04T03:07:01Z")
Mine was the first one, though. 😁 There’s also a guy from Serbia I like. No idea if he has an OnlyFans. I’m guessing not since he’s a guy. /s > **[Man's Best Friend](https://www.youtube.com/@mansbestfriend1995)** > > Hello. My name is Damjan Lukić, and I am a dog groomer from Novi Sad, Serbia. I have been grooming since 2017. My fiancé 's name is Sanja Brkić😊 > Thank you for watching, liking, subscribing and sharing our videos 😊 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/72 "2023-04-04T03:16:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Possibly depressed or agoraphobic. This. I read the letter and thought, “here’s someone who went into hiding during covid and never came out again”. Also, she’s not making a lot of money or she’d probably be helping with the rent. But i think the biggest issue here is not that she’s a freeloader but that she might have been emotionally crippled by the pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/73 "2023-04-04T04:54:52Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I’ll bet lots of OnlyFans performers call themselves content creators or influencers. It sounds a lot better than ‘sex worker’. “Better” in the sense of “less likely to shock people who object to the existence of sex work”, I suppose you mean. Yeah, it’s just as well to have a more innocuous and less attention-getting name for employment you want to be discreet about, like CIA agents being called “civil servants”. Apparently [on TikTok the preferred term is “accountant”,](https://www.insider.com/what-is-a-tiktok-accountant-meaning-meme-2021-2) which is a cute little pun but allegedly does cause some misunderstandings. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/74 "2023-04-04T05:30:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I also agree that the daughter may tell mom she’s “working,” but she’s really just unemployed. I would suspect something slightly different. It’s easy to put out videos, so she has probably done so at least somewhat. But I would suspect she makes little to no money from doing so–though she hopes she could make money. That said, if she buys her own groceries, she might make some money from it. But not enough to pay rent. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/75 "2023-04-04T13:16:41Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Apparently [on TikTok the preferred term is “accountant”,](https://www.insider.com/what-is-a-tiktok-accountant-meaning-meme-2021-2) which is a cute little pun but allegedly does cause some misunderstandings. 😆 Okay, that gave me a chuckle. Clever, too - not only for the sneaky, ribald pun, but because accounting is a memetically unsexy profession. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/76 "2023-04-04T14:24:33Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Clever, too - not only for the sneaky, ribald pun, but because accounting is a memetically unsexy profession. ExCUSE me? What could POSSIBLY be sexier than knowing EXACTLY how well your company is doing? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/77 "2023-04-04T17:43:47Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > ExCUSE me? What could POSSIBLY be sexier than knowing EXACTLY how well your company is doing? “Oh yeah, baby, show me a little P&L! Shake that bottom line! I get so hot when you talk about depreciation and capital gains!” ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/78 "2023-04-04T22:30:03Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > (bonus: and now I know what an actual crumpet looks like as well! spoiler: it’s an “English muffin”, basically) It’s weird that people think that. Crumpets are like a thick, porous pancake with a somewhat rubbery chewy texture - they do have a porous nature that is visually similar to the inside of an American English muffin that has been split, but I think they’re not that similar. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/79 "2023-04-04T22:34:53Z")
I’m glad to see an actual brit say that. A friend just made crumpets, and posted about it online. And it looked like a fat pancake with holes. And he said that the recipe instructed you to let them sit overnight to develop the rubbery texture of store bought ones. It did look similar to the inside of an English muffin, but the thing, as a thing, looked pretty different. (But i was afraid to say that, not having ever actually eaten one.) ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981/80 "2023-04-04T22:46:51Z")
I think a lot of people seeing them served, might be assuming they have been cut in half to reveal the holey surface [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/influencer-content-creator-are-these-now-considered-real-jobs-and-career-paths/981981.md?page=5)