# \*&%@ing Bands with the ABILITY to ROCK who sell out and produce inane drivel **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2001, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880 "2001-04-13T21:47:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2001, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/21 "2001-04-14T16:01:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AudreyK \* > \*\*Aren’t the Rolling Stones still on tour? I think your guns need to be pointed in their direction. > \*\* The Rolling Stones can do whatever they want - they’re the Rolling Stones. Anything they’ve ever needed to prove, they’ve already proven. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2001, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/22 "2001-04-14T16:04:18Z")
JC, U2 did redeem themselves somewhat with the newest album. That said I still use the Zooropa cd as a coaster. ---
**Author:** ![ThisYearsGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@ThisYearsGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisYearsGirl)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2001, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/23 "2001-04-14T18:58:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by untateve \* > \*\*What the hell happened to them? I think Steve Perry might have more time to write a decent song if he wasn’t spending so much time at the salon getting his hair highlighted! > \*\* Steve Perry is from Journey; Joe Perry is from Aerosmith. And even though Steve does, in fact, produce inane drivel, I don’t think he ever rocked. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2001, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/24 "2001-04-14T21:05:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by black455 \* > \*\*Why does everything SubPop touches lately turn to shit? \*\* ::runs in quickly and pummels **black455** silly with recent releases from Sunny Day Real Estate, 5ive Style, and Red House Painters.:: 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LoverBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@LoverBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoverBoy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/25 "2001-04-15T04:13:11Z")
As with several other people here, the OP’s subject led me to think of Metallica. For those who like their post-_Justice_ work, I can only say **“Hey, hey, hey”** as some of my friends and I do when we think of “I Disappear”. Trust me, it’s much funnier in real life with the Hetfield voice. But in all seriousness, the only worthwhile album they’ve made since _Justice_ was _S&M_. It was really pretty cool (although possibly Jimmy Page-derived for those who know the song Kashmir). Besides the musical value, you can’t deny they at least TRIED to have social commentary value in _Lightning_ through _Justice_. Off the top of my head - “Master of Puppets”, “Ride the Lightning”, “Welcome Home (Sanitarium)”, “And Justice For All”, etc. Anyways - enough repetitive ranting. ---
**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/26 "2001-04-15T06:52:37Z")
My first thought upon reading the thread title: “Sugar Ray!” Followed closely by: “No, wait, Everclear!” Makes one appreciate the bands who had the good sense to break up before they started sucking. (Or at least when they saw they were on a downward trajectory.) ---
**Author:** ![JamesCarroll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@JamesCarroll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JamesCarroll)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/27 "2001-04-15T07:04:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by black455 \* > \*\*I lost my virginity to “Angel,” by the way. \*\* I lost mine to **Frankie Goes to Hollywood**. Unfortunately, I couldn’t “Relax”. Fortunately, her parents were gone the whole weekend. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/28 "2001-04-15T13:52:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Alessan \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by AudreyK \* > > \*\*Aren’t the Rolling Stones still on tour? I think your guns need to be pointed in their direction. > > \*\* > > The Rolling Stones can do whatever they want - they’re the Rolling Stones. Anything they’ve ever needed to prove, they’ve already proven. \*\* At a minimum they’ve certainly proven that they’ve got no shame. Seriously, there’s a time to hang it up. And they passed it long ago. How 'bout this for a rule: If a band releases an album, goes on tour, and completely disregards the music on the new album during the set then it’s time to schedule their execution. I think that has a nice ring to it. Leaves room for older bands that still respect their ability to write songs that are worth playing while giving us the option of eliminating (BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY) bands that are just marking time. ---
**Author:** ![dodge\_this](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@dodge\_this](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dodge_this)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/29 "2001-04-15T15:54:42Z")
[slight hijack] Oh, how about a mention for solo artists as well? I’d put Bryan Adams on top of the list. ‘Everything I Do, I Do It For You’, the theme songs to The Three Musketeers and Don Juan…Oi, Bryan! WTF? [/slight hijack] ---
**Author:** ![LoverBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@LoverBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoverBoy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/30 "2001-04-15T16:06:34Z")
**Fiat** - Yes and yes. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/31 "2001-04-15T16:34:55Z")
If I may post a slight defense of the old guys, I have to say that they clearly can and do continue to _rock_ whilst performing live. What I saw at the Super Bowl halftime show was not a bunch of geezers selling out to youth, but a _band_ showing the whippersnappers what rock and roll is about. Granted, the incompetence and interference of the kids diluted the performance, but hell, those guys can still _play_. Ditto for the Rolling Stones. Now, I’m not going to defend their current brand of rock-pop-schmaltz at all, but they are due some respect for being progenitors of the classic rock sound, _and_ they can still prove _that_ on stage (maybe we can limit them to live performances?). Now, if only we could get Eric Clapton to realize his guitar has a whole other gear he seems to have forgotten . . . ---
**Author:** ![Mothra\_s\_Pilot\_Car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mothra\_s\_Pilot\_Car](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mothra_s_Pilot_Car)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/32 "2001-04-15T18:50:09Z")
I nominate **Quixotic** for Minister of Musical Defense. Somebody get this man a badge and some diplomatic immunity! ::bustles up and hands **Quixotic** prewritten speech:: ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/33 "2001-04-15T22:35:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mouthbreather \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by black455 \* > > \*\*Why does everything SubPop touches lately turn to shit? \*\* > > ::runs in quickly and pummels **black455** silly with recent releases from Sunny Day Real Estate, 5ive Style, and Red House Painters.:: > > 🙂 > > \*\* ::pulls himself off the floor and chases down **mouthbreather** , whom he spanks about the buttocks with the recent releases from the Hellacopters, Black Halos, and Murder City Devils.:: Okay, let me amend my first post: Subpop has ruined a whole crop of formerly kick-ass-punk-rock-and-roll bands in the past couple of years. ---
**Author:** ![occ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8c91f0/32.png) [@occ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/occ)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880/34 "2001-04-15T22:50:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AudreyK \* > \*\*Aren’t the Rolling Stones still on tour? I think your guns need to be pointed in their direction. > > As for Aerosmith: > > _Angel_, _Rag Doll_, _Janie’s Got A Gun_, _Sweet Emotion_, _I Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing_, _Walk This Way_, _The Other Side_, _Love In An Elevator_, _Dude (Looks Like A Lady)_, and especially _Dream On_ > > versus > > _Crazy_ and _Amazing_ > I think their sins can be forgiven. \*\* Woah, woah, woah…‘I Don’t Wanna Miss a Thing’!!! I like a little Aerosmith now and then, but this song and the attached movie both sucked…imo. Hell, I don’t think they even wrote it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ing-bands-with-the-ability-to-rock-who-sell-out-and-produce-inane-drivel/61880.md?page=1)