# Inglourious Basterds (Spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 21, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254 "2009-08-21T23:37:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/41 "2009-08-23T09:37:35Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> And I was disappointed Landa didn’t make Cinderella references with Brigitte’s shoe.

This was my biggest disappointment with the movie; I still can’t understand how no one did this…

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**Author:** ![jrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@jrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrepka)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/42 "2009-08-23T21:03:56Z")

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Maybe this was too obvious, but I was fascinated by the way we watched these horrible Nazis (or, as Aldo put it, Gnat-zees) laugh and cheer at a movie about a sniper killing hundreds of soldiers, then were put in the same situation of cheering as the movie-goers on the screen are being burned, shot, and blown up for their transgressions.

The theme of how much fun it is to watch someone else suffer (deservedly or not) hangs heavily in the air…

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**Author:** ![BigShooter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f07891/32.png) [@BigShooter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigShooter)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/43 "2009-08-24T04:32:06Z")

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Great movie. Loved it…

The only thing that bugged me was the stupid, idiotic teenagers sitting behind me. After every violent scene, one felt the need to shout “That dude just got FUCKED UP!!” loud enough for everybody in the theater to hear and ruin the mood. Fucking kids… grumble grumble…

I can see it now - a whole generation of teenagers growing up thinking Hitler died in a hail of machine gun fire. Awesome…

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/44 "2009-08-24T04:36:22Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Hans took the explosives from Brad Pitt and put them in Hitler’s booth. They didn’t know they were standing right next to a timed explosive.

:smack: I seem to recall that now. For some reason, I thought all three of them had explosives strapped to their legs.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/45 "2009-08-24T04:42:25Z")

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> [@Patch](#):
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> 1. What the hell happened to the rest of the team? There’s 8 of them. Two die in the bar, two die in the theater, and two escort the Germans to friendly lines. What happened to the other two?

Since the movie barely touched on the specific exploits of the basterds, I just assumed that two had died along the way and Tarantino didn’t feel it necessary to go into details.

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> 1. Why did they agree to a suicide mission? Or did I miss something and the two in the balcony were caught unawares by the explosion?

Yes, my sense is they were caught unawares. Maybe they were willing for it to be a suicide mission but since the bombs had timers and not triggers I assume there was a plan to drop them and leave (presumably even if they were ok with a suicide mission, von Hammersmark would not have been).

However, they were not aware that Landa had planted Rains bomb in Hitler’s opera box and that was the explosion that triggered the bombs on them.

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> 1. Where the heck did the soldier with Brad Pitt come from at the end? He wasn’t in the theater with him. How did he get captured?

I assumed he was a getaway driver/lookout. Landa knew that the threat was coming from von Hammersmark so I presumed he’d had her followed from well before they got to the theater. So he’d already grabbed the outside guy(s).

Those bits of story massaging/assumptions aside though, I did not find it easy to go along with the idea that Hitler himself would be in the theatre and apparently the security detail never looked behind the screen to discover the 5 foot tall pile of nitrate film. And that during the movie not a single guard was posted in the lobby of the theater.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/46 "2009-08-24T05:09:31Z")

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> [@jrepka](#):
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> Maybe this was too obvious, but I was fascinated by the way we watched these horrible Nazis (or, as Aldo put it, Gnat-zees) laugh and cheer at a movie about a sniper killing hundreds of soldiers, then were put in the same situation of cheering as the movie-goers on the screen are being burned, shot, and blown up for their transgressions.
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> The theme of how much fun it is to watch someone else suffer (deservedly or not) hangs heavily in the air…

What I found most fascinating to watch was the theater goers point of view of the theater screen erupting in flame. Was a little too eerie.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/47 "2009-08-24T05:23:55Z")

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I was annoyed that Landa got off too easily. Also, the first time I saw Eli Roth I thought it was David Schwimmer.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/48 "2009-08-24T05:27:02Z")

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Yeah, I’m annoyed that Landa would get to make a deal, but that doesn’t even require altering history. Quite a number of questionable people got deals from various Allied countries after the war.

Also annoyed that Landa not having something else on the hook to make sure the deal was kept would be the stupidest thing in the movie. Once they were in the forest and the deeds were done, there was no need to keep the deal and nobody would ever know otherwise if they just shot him there.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/49 "2009-08-24T05:57:41Z")

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By the way, was it obvious to everyone that Samuel L. Jackson was doing the voice-overs? I seriously had no clue it was him!

I did catch Harvey Keitel as the voice on the other end of the phone, though!

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/50 "2009-08-24T11:16:01Z")

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> [@monster](#):
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> My 12 (13 at the end of the month) year old son really wants to see this movie. I want to see it too so I was hoping you guys could let me know why it got an R rating. I could read the reviews, but I know I can trust you guys to let me know. He’s a pretty smart, mature kid so I’m thinking it might be okay for him, but I’d like your input. Thanks!

Okay, I (and a very jaded “I”, at that) had to avert my eyes during the baseball bat scene. It was not only ultra-graphic, but was a strong statement on what gang mentality and war can do to people. I didn’t censor anything but hard core sex when my kid was growing up, but I have a feeling many parents will say that this scene is too much for their young’uns.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/51 "2009-08-24T13:49:05Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> There was never a doubt that Shoshana’s plan was going to work. So in stacking the obviously more ill-fated basterd-run plan on top of her’s was supposed to make me \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_? Think of the futility of war? Rejoice in the overkill? Think on the “power” of film? Really, once Shoshana’s plan is hatched, everyone is as good as dead.

I didn’t know going in that it was an alternate history World War II, so I was actually thinking through the whole movie that it was probably going to fail, or at the very least that Hitler and his lieutenants would somehow slip away (seeing as how in reality they all died at the end of the war).  
Also the last chapter of the movie takes place in 1944. I can’t recall whether they said if it was before or after the Normandy Invasion. But either way, at this stage of the war, would Hitler really be willing to travel to Paris with all his top lieutenants in tow and gather them in one place? I figure at the very least they’d do an extremely thourough background check on the theater owner, and as someone else mentioned here, have a shitload of security in the theater lobby.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/52 "2009-08-24T13:53:27Z")

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> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> Those bits of story massaging/assumptions aside though, I did not find it easy to go along with the idea that Hitler himself would be in the theatre and apparently the security detail never looked behind the screen to discover the 5 foot tall pile of nitrate film.

I’m willing to give them a pass on this. It is a theater after all, and whoever was conducting the security sweep probably just assumed they were using the area behind the screen for storage.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/53 "2009-08-24T16:20:23Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> There’s no graphic sex, but there are some graphic violence scenes: cut throats, baseball bats to heads (actually that one wasn’t that graphic), machine guns at close range, etc.. Nothing he probably hasn’t seen before on TV (especially if you have HBO) but probably more than usual in one sitting. And lots of profanity (in a variety of languages). When I was 12 or 13 I’d have probably loved it and never had a single nightmare; in fact in a weird way it’s almost a feel good movie (albeit with heavy good guy casualties).

Uh, and scalpings. Those were extremely graphic.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/54 "2009-08-24T16:26:13Z")

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Did Landa know the theater owner was really Shoshanna? Is that why he ordered milk for her? On the other hand he didn’t do anything to her, but maybe he was going to after the movie premiere. The way she reacted to the milk she seemed to think he knew who she was.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/55 "2009-08-24T16:27:53Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Uh, and scalpings. Those were extremely graphic.

Extremely graphic. Very realistically done, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/56 "2009-08-24T16:31:33Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Also the last chapter of the movie takes place in 1944. I can’t recall whether they said if it was before or after the Normandy Invasion. But either way, at this stage of the war, would Hitler really be willing to travel to Paris with all his top lieutenants in tow and gather them in one place?

There was the scene where Hitler explained to Goebbels why he would be attending the screening and in it he mentioned that the Allies were on the beach. I took that to mean that this was after D-Day and that things weren’t looking so good and so boosting the morale of the French lines was the goal of the premier in Paris and Hitler attending.

Doesn’t make it more realistic that it would actually happen but did give the “within the reality of the movie” explanation.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/57 "2009-08-24T16:32:36Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Did Landa know the theater owner was really Shoshanna? Is that why he ordered milk for her? On the other hand he didn’t do anything to her, but maybe he was going to after the movie premiere. The way she reacted to the milk she seemed to think he knew who she was.

In my opinion, he did not know. I think he just liked milk, and that was the connection in her mind for the horror she witnessed.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/58 "2009-08-24T16:37:21Z")

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I read that there is talk of a prequel, not sure what it would cover. Maybe just another WW II story with some of the same people.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/59 "2009-08-24T17:25:04Z")

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Tarantino has talked about making prequels/sequels to several other of his movies as well. So far he’s never made one. I wouldn’t put too much stock in it.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inglourious-basterds-spoilers/507254/60 "2009-08-24T17:26:38Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> In my opinion, he did not know. I think he just liked milk, and that was the connection in her mind for the horror she witnessed.

At the very least, I’d imagine he thought she was a jew due to her reaction to him. If he’s the best detective Germany has to offer, I’d imagine he has a pretty good instinct for those things.

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