# Inmate tatoos name of murder victim (who was his cousin) into forehead of her killer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 30, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inmate-tatoos-name-of-murder-victim-who-was-his-cousin-into-forehead-of-her-killer/378495 "2006-10-30T22:22:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inmate-tatoos-name-of-murder-victim-who-was-his-cousin-into-forehead-of-her-killer/378495/201 "2006-11-04T11:51:33Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] Not my fault you’re a troll. [/QUOTE] This is another reason why I thought English might be your second language. Your “insults” aren’t related to things I’ve actually said. I said earlier that the tattooer was a violent criminal and ought to be punished… Monty accuses me of making him a hero. 😕 I ask him if he misunderstood or was building a strawman… Monty responds that it is too bad that _my_ stawman didn’t work. 😕 Now, apparently due to the fact that I’ve disagreed with Monty and poked fun at his inability to respond in a way that makes sense, I’m a “troll”, someone who makes intentionally inflammatory posts in order to cause disruption. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inmate-tatoos-name-of-murder-victim-who-was-his-cousin-into-forehead-of-her-killer/378495/202 "2006-11-05T13:13:23Z")
[QUOTE=malkavia] In my opinion, this guy got off pretty easy. [/QUOTE] Agreed, considering what _could_ have happened to him. It says at the bottom of the article the guy told the victim “I’m either going to stick you and leave you bleeding or tattoo you.” Not a hard choice to make. [QUOTE=wring] there was no “technicality” as stated, the rednecks involved were gunned down pre trial. The father knew that they were not facing death penalty or even life w/o parole for the rape of his daughter, since the law involved did not include those as potential sentences. They were facing less than what the father thought they should get, and he also factored in that they were white, and his daughter was black, therefor probably even less time. [/QUOTE] An even bigger logical hole is that if there was not going to be any “justice,” why were the men involved arrested in the first place? Why were they making their way through the legal system? Who was the show trial for? Guess Grisham is good at giving people what they want. Reality requires discernment and rational thought, and those are just to much work. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inmate-tatoos-name-of-murder-victim-who-was-his-cousin-into-forehead-of-her-killer/378495/203 "2006-11-05T13:16:30Z")
Gee, Waverly. I’m just going by the evidecne you’ve presented. Perhaps it was the insulting description of my earlier post or perhaps it was the description that you’d support what the tattooist had done or perhaps it was both. ---
**Author:** ![Arac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@Arac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arac)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inmate-tatoos-name-of-murder-victim-who-was-his-cousin-into-forehead-of-her-killer/378495/204 "2006-11-05T21:50:33Z")
[QUOTE=Waverly] What the fuck are you talking about? Suffering abuse is not what makes one unworthy, it is abusing someone else that makes one an unworthy human being. Are we not responsible for our own actions anymore? I happen to know people who have been raped or abused. Not one of them uses it as justification to victimize someone else. Does that make them more worthy than me? Maybe. I’d be OK with that. I’m not OK with rationalization. [/QUOTE] But I’m not arguing that any of the things I brought up should result in reduced sentencing. I’m not even arguing that those things should be taken into account before someone does their Batman impression on these guys. What really gets my goat, each and every time, is those people who get the warm fuzzies that their idea of ‘justice’ has been done. You don’t know the situation. It’s not your place, not your pain and not your child. Children suffer the world over, everyone suffers, and I’m sure a goodly portion of the child-abusers out there are suffering from the kind of mental anguish and illness that neither you or I can even begin to conceive of. Your outrage seems to hinge on the assertion that there is something special in your brain that - should you have been born into the body, upbringing and experience of these offenders - would have been able to control yourself where they did not, or would have the capacity to empathize that these people so obviously lack. I just don’t believe that to be true. There’s tragedy on every side of this situation, and I do not believe it’s as black and white as you’d like to think it is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inmate-tatoos-name-of-murder-victim-who-was-his-cousin-into-forehead-of-her-killer/378495.md?page=10)