# Inor, you are a liar. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 28, 2001, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802 "2001-03-28T06:44:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/1 "2001-03-28T06:44:33Z")
Remember Inor? You know, the guy who made some rather colorful threats against me involving mutilation and anal rape? Well, I saw this mention made of him: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=64848](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=64848) > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Arden Ranger_\*\* > According to inor in a post on another message board, Ben (in email to inor)did threaten to sue inor personally and his ISP and inor was told that the Reader could get drawn into such a lawsuit-which would be bad. There was no mention of Ben suing the Reader directly. Not that I think that’s much better. \*\* Huh? I never threatened to sue Inor or his ISP! I never even emailed Inor! Sheesh! What a moron! He threatens to “buttfuck” me, refuses to understand why that’s unacceptable, and then goes off to make up lies about me! Could someone provide me with a link to this other messageboard? -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/2 "2001-03-28T06:55:45Z")
Could we **PLEASE, PLEASE _PLEASE_ just give this a rest!!!** It is over and done with, **inor** is gone, never to return, and I for one am sick and tired of it. Scotti ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/3 "2001-03-28T07:00:45Z")
Ben, first of all, inor is no longer allowed to post here so he can’t respond to you here. I suggest you find his email address and email him directly and keep the SD and the “other message board” out of this. As a moderator on the “other message board” I will be posting a notice there (not giving you the link) to be aware of this post. I am not here to bring up issues with regards to the “other message board” but seeking out persons on another message board for revenge or other tactics is not really the best thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/4 "2001-03-28T07:08:17Z")
Don’t fret too much, Ben. For what it’s worth, you’re not the only one who was greatly annoyed at Inor’s behavior. But, yeah, let’s allow this to drop. Gone. _Fin_. ‘Dat’s the end o’ 'dat. And all that jazz. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/5 "2001-03-28T07:26:07Z")
While I agree with the others that this issue should be dead, since that’s my post you’re quoting I went back to re read what inor wrote elsewhere (and no, I’m not providing a cite). Ben’s right when he says he never wrote inor. I misremembered the very long post in question and I apologize to inor, who may be reading this. inor was informed by someone else of what Ben was considering. But Ben, I have to say that even if I hadn’t made a mistake, it’s pretty low to attack someone who can’t defend themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/6 "2001-03-28T07:48:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arden Ranger \* > \*\* > Ben’s right when he says he never wrote inor. I misremembered the very long post in question and I apologize to inor, who may be reading this. inor was informed by someone else of what Ben was considering. \*\* You seem to be missing the point. The key idea here is not that I didn’t email Inor; it’s that I never threatened to sue him or his ISP. > [@](#): > > \*\* > But Ben, I have to say that even if I hadn’t made a mistake, it’s pretty low to attack someone who can’t defend themselves. > \*\* My sentiments exactly! Inor is smearing my reputation with his lies on another MB, and I can’t even defend myself because I don’t know where he’s posting them! -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/7 "2001-03-28T08:00:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by techchick68 \* > \*\* I am not here to bring up issues with regards to the “other message board” but seeking out persons on another message board for revenge or other tactics is not really the best thing to do. \*\* Defending my reputation against lies is “revenge or other tactics”? :rolleyes: Look, guys, Inor is smearing my reputation with lies on another message board, and apparently some people are actually stupid enough to believe him. When I defend myself the only way I can- on the SDMB- what do people tell me? - that I shouldn’t bring it up on the SDMB, because Inor can’t post here. Never mind that _I can’t post at Inor’s message board, because…_ - neither techchick69 nor Arden Ranger will tell me what the other message board is, because “revenge and other tactics” are “not really the best thing to do.” (Of course, techchick68 happily informs Inor of my post- why didn’t she inform me of his?) - that it was pretty slimy for me to threaten to sue Inor’s ISP, never mind the fact that _the point of this entire thread is that I never made such threats!_ Look, I don’t want to start some lengthy Pit thread about Inor. All I want to do is to set the record straight, because some people on the SDMB actually believe Inor’s lies. I would be happy to not bring it up here and deal with it at the “other board,” but apparently it’s a secret message board which must be kept hidden from me at all costs- so I have no choice but to address it here. Sheesh! What _is_ it with you people? -Ben ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/8 "2001-03-28T08:02:49Z")
> [@](#): > > My sentiments exactly! Inor is smearing my reputation with his lies on another MB, Just FYI Ben, to the best of my knowledge, the so-called threats _began_ here on this message board. Please read through the link you provided: [QUOUTE]The next day inor requested to have his privileges reinstated. By that time we were getting inquiries about this becoming a legal matter, with the Reader getting dragged into it. [/QUOTE] I don’t presume this was you or inor but the thing is inor is not “spreading” anything. Arden Ranger spoke incorrectly. Leave it at that and presume that possibly the entire issue was misunderstood from the original thread to begin with, which is what I get after reading it all. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/9 "2001-03-28T08:09:34Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t presume this was you or inor but the thing is inor is not “spreading” anything. Arden Ranger spoke incorrectly. I did apologize for my mistake, **techchick68**. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/10 "2001-03-28T08:13:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arden Ranger \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > I don’t presume this was you or inor but the thing is inor is not “spreading” anything. Arden Ranger spoke incorrectly. > > I did apologize for my mistake, **techchick68**. \*\* Perhaps you could give me the cite so that I can see for myself what’s going on, rather than worrying about whether Arden Ranger reported it correctly? -Ben ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/11 "2001-03-28T08:15:21Z")
Ben, I am not shielding you from any secret message board but I don’t prefer that a new member of a board I am involved in goes over solely to “set the record straight” This leaves me very uncomfortable. I am just asking you, if you have a beef, please take it up with inor in an email. According to him you have received an email from him, so reply accordingly and get your beef out there. It was stated here, and by an Admin, that legal issues have been brought up because of inor’s response. This was not that inor stated anything to that matter, oh and it was Arden’s misquote. If you choose to come over to the other board, you can but please don’t do it so you can start up a personal attack on anyone. I want to see this die a quick death as it’s not doing anyone any good considering the whole legal issue was an annonymous assumption based on an SDMB Admin’s reply in a forum and in email. ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/12 "2001-03-28T08:22:50Z")
Arden, I am not faulting you…for all I know my replies to this thread are incorrect…don’t worry about it. As the bumper sticker says “Shit Happens” Believe me (as most can atest here) I have had more than my fair share of goofs…mine though are usually to a really serious degree, yours is just a trickle on the ocean of life. I was just trying to focus on the fact that Ben is getting his UnderRoos in a wad over nothing and the fact that it really started via an SDMB Admin and the legal issue. \< at least to the best of my knowledge \> Words can be skimmed, words can be miscontrued, but from my own recollection Ben isn’t seeing the whole picture. ---
**Author:** ![Cabbage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@Cabbage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabbage)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/13 "2001-03-28T08:33:50Z")
Here’s the link, Ben: [http://fff.fathom.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000443.html](http://fff.fathom.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000443.html) (I’m hoping I don’t piss anyone off posting that, but it does seem that Ben has a right to be aware of it). I read through it a few days ago, but _good God_ it’s long, and I’ll be damned if I can remember the details, or if I’ll read through the whole thing again. Skimming over it (very) briefly now, I’m not sure that inor/rino ever did specifically accuse you of threatening to sue him; if he did, it’s in that thread, which you’re free to read of course. All that’s apparent to me is that he claims you asked him to be _aware_ of the possibility of a lawsuit anytime you threaten someone physically–not that you specifically _threatened_ a lawsuit. (That’s just my take on it, you’ll have to read it for yourself). A lot of this seems to have resulted from some misunderstandings and mistakes. From what I’ve seen (which is very little, admittedly), it just seems he meant his physical threats in jest (not a wise decision, admittedly). Then you essentially asked him to be cognizant of the fact that such talk invites lawsuits (not to imply that you specifically were threatening a lawsuit, which he took it to be). I apologize if, out of ignorance, I’ve misrepresented any of the above. All I’m hoping to accomplish out of that is to set the stage for ya’ll to at least be civil about getting this cleared up, would ya please? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/14 "2001-03-28T08:41:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cabbage \* > \*\*I apologize if, out of ignorance, I’ve misrepresented any of the above. All I’m hoping to accomplish out of that is to set the stage for ya’ll to at least be civil about getting this cleared up, would ya please? 😃 \*\* Thanks, Cabbage. By posting the link, you’ll let me settle this a lot more peacefully than might have happened otherwise. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/15 "2001-03-28T08:49:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cabbage \* > \*\*I apologize if, out of ignorance, I’ve misrepresented any of the above. All I’m hoping to accomplish out of that is to set the stage for ya’ll to at least be civil about getting this cleared up, would ya please? 😃 \*\* Thanks, Cabbage. I’ve read the link, and it all boils down to one question: TubaDiva, am I the poster in question whom you said was considering legal action against Inor and his ISP? FWIW, I wrote TubaDiva asking for Inor’s profile info, so that I could verify that Inor lived too far away to do me any harm. When I mentioned that I was considering asking Inor’s ISP for the information, TubaDiva replied that they probably wouldn’t give it up without legal action. I don’t remember what I said in reply, but it appears that she misinterpreted it, whatever it was. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/16 "2001-03-28T09:11:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Sheesh! What _is_ it with you people? > > -Ben I don’t know, but I’m starting to wonder how much of a coincidence that we’ve recently had two posters get into arguments with you so heated that they had to be banned. Maybe it’s not just everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/17 "2001-03-28T09:25:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by waterj2 \* > \*\* > I don’t know, but I’m starting to wonder how much of a coincidence that we’ve recently had two posters get into arguments with you so heated that they had to be banned. Maybe it’s not just everyone else. \*\* Given that DITWD was involved in a heated argument with just about everyone, I don’t think your argument holds water. After all, not only was he accusing me of being a Nazi, he was also accusing Gaudere of being an incoherent, raving atheist who couldn’t handle talking to Christians. As far as Inor goes, I had never had any interaction with him until the day he popped out of nowhere and threatened to attack me. If I’m not mistaken, however, he had a long history of bad behavior with other people, and he refused to change. Think of it this way: in all the time I’ve been on this board, noone involved in heated debate with me got kicked off until recently. Both of them had a history of behavior problems, and one of them had no interaction with me beyond a one-shot attack. Meanwhile, around the same time, a number of other people got kicked off who weren’t involved in debates with me at all. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/18 "2001-03-28T09:29:46Z")
Incidentally, in all honesty I should retract my accusation of lying. Inor’s comments were clearly the result of a misunderstanding, and I apologize for the accusations I made on the basis of Arden Ranger’s incorrect report. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/19 "2001-03-28T09:54:17Z")
Hey, I wasn’t trying to fault you, just saying that maybe you aren’t so easy to get along with. After all, in both cases, the posters were told that their behavior towards you was over the line, and they both decided not to change. Sure, they were both a bit prone to go off the edge, but they seem to have chosen you as the target of their rage. I guess it’s better than being attacked by people like gaudere, who can carry out a well-reasoned argument and make her opponent look foolish, than it is to be attacked by people with nothing other than ad hominem arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802/20 "2001-03-28T10:27:33Z")
Mods, could you close this thread? Now that I am able to see Inor’s actual comments, I realize that this was a tempest in a teapot. Again, my apologies for my role in creating such confusion. Whatever Inor’s other faults, he didn’t lie. -Ben [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inor-you-are-a-liar/59802.md?page=2)