# Insane Clown Posse vs. the RNC.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 19, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281 "2011-08-19T04:33:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/41 "2011-08-19T21:19:44Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> ICP are better wrestlers than they are musicians/rappers/whatever. And they suck at wrestling.

Yeah, but are they better wrestlers than the people of the RNC?

I think a Battle Royal in a cage is in order. No one gets out until only one is left standing.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/42 "2011-08-19T21:28:52Z")

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I thought this was going to be a thread about the RNC using ICP music without their permission. Probably Miracles as that song covers the RNC’s stance on science pretty well.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/43 "2011-08-19T21:45:32Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> **Miller** and **Hentor** : I stand by my statement. Even the recent thread on how that video/song got so popular there wasn’t a lot of Doper hate aimed at ICP. It was more sadness that they aren’t the brightest bulbs in the box, but no actual malice or negativity towards them.
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> And previous threads asking about their popularity have a decent number of people chiming in to say they are indifferent towards them as a rock band if not outright enjoying the over-the-topness of it as an infrequent indulgence.

I’m not sure I’d classify, “Idiots who I don’t think about too often,” as “decently regarded.”

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/44 "2011-08-19T21:56:45Z")

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The more you deny it, **Miller** , the more you reveal your secret admiration. Or something.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/45 "2011-08-19T23:20:32Z")

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Does this mean that Barbara Bush used to [drive George W. Bush to work everyone morning](http://www.theonion.com/articles/insane-clown-posse-gets-ride-to-concert-from-mom,707/)?

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/46 "2011-08-20T00:37:43Z")

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Their music is terrible, but their guest spots on Loveline are some of the funniest episodes ever (next to David Alan Grier).  
Slim Anus was pretty funny too.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/47 "2011-08-20T02:17:34Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Yeah, but are they better wrestlers than the people of the RNC?
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> I think a Battle Royal in a cage is in order. No one gets out until only one is left standing.

Well, considering that Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson made an appearance at the Republican Convention, Bill Watts, Ted Dibiase, Shawn Michaels, Sting, and several others are religious zealots, Ole Anderson is too grumpy to be a liberal, John Bradshaw Layfield is a Republican, Linda McMahon ran for the Senate as a Republican, Vince McMahon is very likely a Republican, and “Stone Cold” Steve Austin seems very unlikely to be a Democrat, just off the top of my head…I’m going to say no.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/48 "2011-08-20T02:33:59Z")

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I’m really getting a huge kick out of the idea of Stone Cold Steve Austin coming out as a Democrat, maybe campaigning for Hilary.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/49 "2011-08-20T11:28:43Z")

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“A responsible fiscal policy must include revenue generation by removing the taxation loopholes on the wealthiest members of society because STONE COLD SAID SO!!”

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/50 "2011-08-21T06:54:27Z")

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As a very lonely juggalo on these boards, I’d have to disagree with the “well-regarded” characterization. “Resounding mocked and derided” is more like it. But that’s neither here nor there. Juggalos like being hated.

As regards politics, ICP falls squarely on the democratic side of the spectrum. They are about helping the poor (“I live my life in the gutter… and this gutter is who I am” -I’m Coming Home) and punishing the rich (“You sound like a richey-bitch, yo FUCK YOU!” -The Neden Game). “Your Rebel Flag” and “Chicken Huntin’” represent their attitude towards the south, firmly establishing that the wicked clowns would love nothing more than chop the necks of racists and bigots who live in that area. There’s not much of a GOP left after that.

ICP would actually be a great counter to Republican politicians because ICP would call them on their bullshit. Obama is too polite, too friendly, too PC. He should bust out The Amazing Jeckel Brothers and listen to some “Fuck the World” or “I Want My Shit” for some good lessons in how to stick hatchets in his opponent’s neden holes.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/51 "2011-08-21T07:08:06Z")

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I opened this thread thinking that the Insane Clown Posse was at odds with the Nuclear Regulatory Commision.

Signing off…

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**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/52 "2011-08-21T17:34:58Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> As a very lonely juggalo on these boards, I’d have to disagree with the “well-regarded” characterization. “Resounding mocked and derided” is more like it. But that’s neither here nor there. Juggalos like being hated.

Maybe if you tried [Juggalove](http://juggalove.com/) you wouldn’t be so lonely. ☹

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/53 "2011-08-21T20:57:26Z")

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This thread is what MTV has done to our children.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/54 "2011-08-21T22:04:39Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> This thread is what MTV has done to our children.

If you’re down with the clown, chances are you didn’t hear about them on MTV. MTV hates ICP (and it’s mutual- “Fuck radio and MTV Live!” from the Woodstock performance of Fuck the World). See the last two paragraphs of this section:

> **[Insane Clown Posse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_clown_posse#Bizaar_and_Bizzar)**
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> Insane Clown Posse, often abbreviated as ICP, is an American hip hop duo. Formed in Detroit in 1989, ICP's best-known lineup consists of rappers Violent J (Joseph Bruce) and Shaggy 2 Dope (originally 2 Dope; Joseph Utsler). Insane Clown Posse performs a style of hardcore hip hop known as horrorcore and is known for its elaborate live performances. The duo has earned two platinum and five gold albums. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the entire catalog of the group had sold 6.5 million units in...

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/55 "2011-08-22T07:46:22Z")

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> [@Zjestika](#):
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> Maybe if you tried [Juggalove](http://juggalove.com/) you wouldn’t be so lonely. ☹

Erm, I meant lonely as in all by myself rather than lonely as in seeking companionship. But thanks for the heads up, ninja. If I ever need some Juggalette love or some neden I’ll be sure to check it out.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/56 "2011-08-22T13:56:57Z")

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While I’ve heard of ICP, I’ve never actually checked out their work. This morning I wathed their Miracles video.

Egads! What utter shite!

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insane-clown-posse-vs-the-rnc/593281/57 "2011-08-23T13:53:15Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think that’s a debatable statement, to say the least.

No it ain’t, Ma’Fugga!! \* Smacks Miller with a rusty axe \* 😃

And as for you, **R. P. McMurphy** , you’re _way_ off base. There’s no way the current Republican party approaches the lucidity and factual accuracy of ICP. Juggalos is little league in comparison.

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