# Inside How Many Countries Have You Flown Domestically?

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**Created:** [September 1, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inside-how-many-countries-have-you-flown-domestically/729566 "2015-09-01T02:01:38Z")\
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India, US, Thailand

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Thinking back over all my trips, not many!

Australia  
Canada  
Ireland  
US

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> [@Sangahyando](#):
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> I have something of a sorta-kinda, grey-area situation re “Britain”. Have flown between England – thus, in the United Kingdom – and the Channel Islands, off the Normandy coast, which are British Crown Dependencies but _not_ part of the UK.
> 
> Have also flown within the Channel Islands, between Guernsey and Alderney (20-minute flight in tiny plane).
> 
> Zimbabwe.

I think you can count the mainland UK to Northern Ireland and all British islands such as the Channel Islands and Shetlands as domestic for this purpose. The Falklands might be stretching it, though.

I’ve travelled domestically in Vietnam (Saigon to Hanoi), China (Beijing to Wuhan), Saudi (Dammam to Tabouk), Jordan (Amman to Aqaba), Italy (Rome to Palermo), USA (Chicago to Vegas), and the UK (Leeds-Bradford to Belfast).

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Related question for the US or Canada. Which states or provinces have you flown within?

Illinois (Moline & Chicago)  
New York (Ithaca & NYC)  
North Carolina (Asheville & Charlotte)

I want to say I’ve flown within Texas & California but I don’t remember specifics so I can’t count them.

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Oh, France, I forgot France. Paris, to Limoge. That makes 10.

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I neglected to add the most obvious one - the USA for an even 10 countries. :smack:

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> [@Sangahyando](#):
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> I have something of a sorta-kinda, grey-area situation re “Britain”. Have flown between England – thus, in the United Kingdom – and the Channel Islands, off the Normandy coast, which are British Crown Dependencies but _not_ part of the UK.
> 
> Have also flown within the Channel Islands, between Guernsey and Alderney (20-minute flight in tiny plane).

> [@JustinC](#):
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> I think you can count the mainland UK to Northern Ireland and all British islands such as the Channel Islands and Shetlands as domestic for this purpose.

We Brits are weird, here. Everything in our archipelago is the UK, except for: Ireland save for the Six Counties of Northern Ireland; and the Isle of Man (a British Crown Dependency, but not part of the UK); and the Channel Islands – well, not really in the archipelago, but (no offence to the French) not obviously anywhere not-British. Flying-wise: I have been to Ireland, and the Isle of Man, only by boat – so the CI is the only possible problem area re this thread.

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USA, Germany, Australia, and Ecuador.

> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Related question for the US or Canada. Which states or provinces have you flown within? Just a single flight, California, Louisianna (New Orleans to Lake Charles in a four seater Cessna), and Saskatchewan. If you can count legs, I can add Hawai’i, Illinois, and British Columbia. Did I ever fly between Philly and Pittsburgh? I don’t recall having done so.

California, Nevada, New York, and Texas. It feels like there should be more (for both lists), but I think that’s it.

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US  
Canada  
Germany  
Netherlands (Amsterdam to Eindhoven)

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If a connecting flight from Charles de Gaulle to Côte d’Azur counts as a “domestic flight,” then three. Otherwise, two: United States, Italy, France. I’ve been to many more countries than I’ve flown through.

The only state I’ve flown in was California.

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Only USA – within that, I’ve flown “sub domestically” within Texas, Washington, Nevada and Florida.

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Within a state I’ve only flown one route, NYC to Albany, the first time back when People Express sold you the ticket on the plane. The flight attendant came up the aisle with a credit card machine. We barely had time to finish paying before landing.

Since then I’ve flown the same route many times, but always as a continuation of a flight that originated overseas.

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> US  
> Germany  
> Egypt  
> Japan

Hell, I forgot:  
South Africa  
Botswana

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You mean how many countries have you flown to or from while flying or how many countries have you flew THROUGH while flying?

If the first, then four: USA, Canada, Taiwan, and Indonesia.

If the second, then a few: USA, Canada, Taiwan, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore, and Thailand.  
ETA: I see you meant neither of those things after rereading. You mean how many countries have you flown from point A to point B entirely within the country itself.  
In that case, two: USA and Canada

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> USA, Angola, Ecuador, Egypt, Guatemala, Mexico, Peru, United Kingdom. Most of the ones outside the US were oilfield charters.

Crap, how’d I forget Canada? Canada.

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> US, Canada, Japan. If you count flying into a country and then changing to a flight within that country, I can add Denmark.
> 
> Related question for the US or Canada. Which states or provinces have you flown within? Just a single flight, California, Louisianna (New Orleans to Lake Charles in a four seater Cessna), and Saskatchewan. If you can count legs, I can add Hawai’i, Illinois, and British Columbia. Did I ever fly between Philly and Pittsburgh? I don’t recall having done so.

Denmark counts because a single flight originated in a country and ended in the same country. It can even be from point A back to point A and not to a point B, as per my Kathmandu-Kathmandu flight to Mt. Everest.

As for within a single state inside the US, just two for me: Hawaii and Texas.

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I’m wondering about Britain. I know England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are each counted as “countries.” So should each one of of those count separately, or should it just be “inside the UK”? (Never been to Britain myself, so that’s not a problem for me.)

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> You mean how many countries have you flown to or from while flying or how many countries have you flew THROUGH while flying?
> 
> If the first, then four: USA, Canada, Taiwan, and Indonesia.
> 
> If the second, then a few: USA, Canada, Taiwan, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore, and Thailand.  
> ETA: I see you meant neither of those things after rereading. You mean how many countries have you flown from point A to point B entirely within the country itself.  
> In that case, two: USA and Canada

Correct. Again, just to be clear, takeoff and landing must be within the same country. I have flown to and from Japan a couple of times but never within Japan, so Japan does not count. I have flown between Mexico and Nicaragua but never within either of those, so they do not count. I have changed planes in Taipei lots of times when flying between the US and Thailand, but Taiwan does not count, because I never flew to another Taiwanese city.

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To or from, it’s 14 for me:

Philippines  
USA  
Germany  
England  
Mexico  
Canada  
China  
Japan  
Sweden  
Spain  
Hungary  
Iceland  
Norway  
Israel

But for within, then it’s only two for me:

USA  
Phillipines

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Again, I’m only interested in within.

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’m wondering about Britain. I know England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are each counted as “countries.” So should each one of of those count separately, or should it just be “inside the UK”? (Never been to Britain myself, so that’s not a problem for me.)

The general understanding, is that the four cited above are separate countries, each with marked distinguishing characteristics, but not sovereign states; together, they make up the sovereign state of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So for the purposes of this thread, one would feel that flights within England / Scotland etc., would not count separately – if that makes sense !

In times past, England / Wales / Scotland / Ireland were separate, independent sovereign states; but merged together into the UK, at various dates between the 16th century, and 1801, when Ireland (the whole island) was brought into the UK. Ireland was partitioned in the early 1920s, leaving only the six counties of Northern Ireland in the UK.

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