# Inspired by cichlidiot...Take this,fat bashers! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2003, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041 "2003-01-21T19:52:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/21 "2003-01-21T20:54:04Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \* > \*\* > You are probably a guy(as I’m guessing from your username)and therefore have NO idea what we women go through when we don’t fit the ‘standard’ set by the media._\* Not to be insensitive (since I agree with the substance of the OP), but have you ever seen a Hair Club for Men commercial? And there is PLENTY of fat bias against men. I’ve yet to pick up a copy of GQ, Men’s Health, or Esquire and see anybody but lean, muscular models in them. But am I beating myself up about it and proclaiming some kind of special oppressed status for my gender? No. Media stereotyping and efforts to destroy the self-esteem of the populace to move product have destructive effects on everyone, not just women. I know I’m sick and tired of commercials trying to make me feel bad about going bald, which is a perfectly natural part of aging. And I’m tired of dating a succession of young \*\*women who are terribly insecure about their weight and appearance. And I’m tired of hearing about kids who think their life is over if they don’t get the latest Air Jordans. Proclaiming this a “woman problem” is only going to push further into the future the day when the U.S. consumer learns to be objective about whatever he buys. It affects all of us. And for the record, I adore bigger women. If I had a wife who wanted a breast reduction, I’d cry. **Lizard** , who according to the U.S. Army, is _130 pounds_ overweight. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/22 "2003-01-21T21:15:01Z")
Clothing is no picnic for us thin folks, either. I’m 46 years old and the only clothing that comes in my size (0-2) is stuff teenagers wear. Belly shirts (puhleeze!) and ass-crack showin’ jeans. I have an OK figure, but I’m not 16 anymore. Everything looks pretty ridiculous on an old broad like me. My point is, you’re not the lone ranger here. We ALL have imperfections. That’s the beauty of being human. There’s plenty about me that could be “more perfect”, but then I wouldn’t be me anymore, would I? ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/23 "2003-01-21T21:18:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lizard \* > \*\* > > **Lizard** , who according to the U.S. Army, is _130 pounds_ overweight. \*\* Now _that_ I sympathize with. I’m presently a good 60 pounds overweight for the Navy, which is locking me out of the career I want to pursue. I’ve talked to the JAG representative, who agrees that my LSAT score plus class ranking are perfect and give me an excellent chance, but I have little hope of making weight. Of course, it’s most certainly their prerogative to have such standards, even as little sense as they make for the professionals in the service (laywers, doctors, etc.) I guess they have an image to uphold, after all, and even Navy doctors and lawyers have to go aboard ship once and awhile, perhaps for an entire tour depending on one’s assignment, so it makes some sense. (Of course, I’ve been on a carrier, and don’t think I’d have any problem fitting through the doors 😉 A submarine, though…) Well, it looks like I’ll make the effort to get my weight down, even though I expect to fail. It’d be a real bummer to lose an opportunity for a fulfilling career because of something as stupid as a love of hot wings 😉 Well, it’s more than that of course, but it’s more fun to make light of it. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/24 "2003-01-21T21:26:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \* > \*\ ***belladonna** –I’m not doing it to ‘shoehorn myself into that image’ as you put it. I’m doing it primarily for medical reasons…So I’m not trying to ‘fit the stereotype’. I’m getting thin because I have to.If I don’t…well…I’ll probably end up in surgery, which I don’t want. > Sorry if you misunderstood.🙂 > \*\* Fair enough, I’m not a doctor so I can’t comment on that. But if there really are medical issues involved than health insurance should cover a reduction, if that makes you feel any better. I notice you said you were unemployed at the moment, but it’s something to keep in mind. [sub]As an afterthought–I think you were unnecessarily rude to Rex, and just want to note that I’m really impressed that he hasn’t chosen to tear you a new one for it. [/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/25 "2003-01-21T21:26:37Z")
Bud did it on JAG 😉 ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/26 "2003-01-21T21:45:00Z")
And then there are those who weigh more than other people think they should and have absolutely no problem with it. I wish **fizzy** felt the way I do about her body…☹ [sub]If she did, though, she might just spend all day feeling it, which I sure as hell wish _I_ could do…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/27 "2003-01-21T21:46:54Z")
Yep. I’ve tried dieting, and every time, I gain it all back plus five pounds. Now I’m done with it. I’ve actually lost a little weight since I stopped dieting, but now I’m at 5 feet and about 145, and if I stay there, it’s no big deal. Better than making myself crazy to lose a little weight, then gaining it back plus more. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/28 "2003-01-21T21:53:18Z")
Personally, I find it a tad obnoxious that you wandered into **cichlidiot’s** thread and droped this stinker: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by IDBB_ > **I’m gonna step up for all the ‘thick’ people here…cichlidiot SHUT UP!!! SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!..You thin people have NOTHING to bitch about!NOTHING!..So shut the FUCK up,cichlidiot. I’m tired of hearing the skinny people whine.Really.** were called to task on it by a number of people, myself included, who told stories of illness and death due to thinness, but you didn’t bother to come back and appologize to any of the people you offended, and instead started this thread bemoaning your own fate. Guess what, sweety, if you want respect and compassion regarding your size, perhaps you should try giving some first. Jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/29 "2003-01-21T21:55:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JohnBckWLD \* > \*\*I’m not gonna get into a Sumo vs. thin grudge match. I have no problem with overweight people, just people with attitudes exibited by IDBB. > > -snip- > > If I wanted to be a complete arse, I would’ve included poor punctuation in my original list & implied the 10 minutes it took to post the rant would have been better spent excercising. \*\* And your way of dealing with such attitudes, educating them, and making them go away is to offer “_un_constructive” criticism? Ok, I take back complete arse, how about we settle for “subtotal arse”? ---
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/30 "2003-01-21T22:12:25Z")
You know, **IDBB** , you had my sympathy until **alice** pointed out your hypocritical, assholish response to that other thread. I don’t care how much shit you’ve gotten for your size, that does not give you the right to judge others for their sizes. How dare you assume that being below a certain weight solves all of a person’s image and esteem problems, and eliminates their right to complain. I don’t care what size you are, you can bite me and chew. – Dragonblink the average sized ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/31 "2003-01-21T22:29:16Z")
What **alice** said. I’m sorry people are rude to you, but that gives you no right to be a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/32 "2003-01-21T22:37:29Z")
Ya know, I have friends of all sizes. I myself could be considered, by your calculations, fat. But, strangley, I have never had your problems with comments or glares. Huh, I guess it is true, additude _is_ everything. Maybe trying to always smile makes people look past my fat ol’ ass. then again, maybe this is another ME ME ME post you tend to be famous for as of late. I’m sick of hearing _you_ whine. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/33 "2003-01-21T23:01:53Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by IDBB_ I’m gonna step up for all the ‘thick’ people here…cichlidiot SHUT UP!!! SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!..You thin people have NOTHING to bitch about!NOTHING!..So shut the FUCK up,cichlidiot. I’m tired of hearing the skinny people whine.Really. [/quote] Here’s a lift the size of your ego. Now you can get the fuck over yourself. Shall I tell you about the times I’ve literally gotten sick to my stomach because I hadn’t eaten in a few hours? It’s a wonder I don’t have to wear layers when it gets below 60 degrees, my bodyfat is so low. And though the number of people who’ve suggested I eat something is not as large as it could be (perhaps because the people I hang around mostly DGAF what I eat as long as I don’t fart them to death), the number of people who think that because I look skinny I can’t pick up anything bigger than 50 lbs is shockingly high. Yeah, it can be hell being (perceived as, in some cases) fat. The same is true for being (perceived as) skinny. ---
**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/34 "2003-01-22T00:54:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \* > SOME OF US CANNOT HELP IT!! What is your excuse? You admit to being able to loose weight, why did you put it on in the first place? > [@](#): > > Yes,I have a huge ass.SO STOP STARING!!Other people have huge asses.You’ve seen them before. It’s not a novelty,for chrissakes! Do you really have a HUGE ass? I mean, HUGE? You think loosing 20lbs is going to do anything about that? Is the 20lbs all in your HUGE ass? > [@](#): > > This is also a rant directed towards modern society and fashion which demands that we all be six foot tall chicas who are a size 5 or 6 with very little in the way of ass or boobage and blonde to boot. Demands? Was there a law passed that I wasn’t aware of? Personally, I like my 6 footers to be a size 3 or smaller, but then that’s me. > [@](#): > > I’m sorry…no…I’m not sorry I’m fat. Well then what the fuck is your point? You certainly seem upset. If you were cool with it, which you obviously are not, you wouldn’t be here. > [@](#): > > YOu’re the ones who should be sorry for making girls so insecure about their weight. YOU (the media)plaster pictures of these thin,anorexic looking models all over the place and little girls grow up thinking they are supposed to look like that when they get to be adults. NOT EVERYBODY LOOKS LIKE THAT,YOU EGG SUCKING MORONS!!! Boo-Fucking-Hoo. Don’t you ever get sick of blaming everyone else for your problems? You think it is any differnt for men? Should I post here about how I don’t look like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise or Sean Connery or some shit? No. I accept that I am, at best, an average looking guy, and I get the fuck on with my life. I try to present myself as well as possible, but I have neither the time nor the desire to spend twenty hours a week in the gym to develop a male-model like body. Is that the evil MEDIA’S fault? No. I tell you what, why don’t you go sue McDonald’s and Paramount Pictures, and everybody else who is responsible for your weight and self esteem issues, since nothing is your own damn problem. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/35 "2003-01-22T00:59:57Z")
Not sure if this is a “hijack” or not. But, for those who are “too” skinny OR fat. The trick is NOT starving or stuffing oneself. It is all in the weight lifting and the proper proportions of protein. Fat (that in food) is not your enemy, simple carbs (sugar, candy, cake etc) is. You can aerobicize until the cows come home and STILL not lose weight (unless you are a “skinny”). Check out this website (hope it’s still the same) [http://www.hussman.com/eas](http://www.hussman.com/eas) This guy IS a doctor, and he lines it out in “user friendly” type lingo why dieting doesn’t work and what really does. ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/36 "2003-01-22T01:04:04Z")
Jesus. Anyone else getting sick of IDBB rants where once people stop responding positively she trots out the progeria? Listen, if the progeria is part of the problem, say that upfront, sunshine. I’m pretty disgusted by the attack on thin people. I’m solidly overweight which annoys me but my SO’s incredibly low body fat is more of a health issue for him and a comfort issue for him. It sucks to be so thin you cannot sit comfortably on unpadded chairs. He eats and eats and eats and remains thin. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/37 "2003-01-22T01:14:58Z")
Typo/grammar correction. Oh GRRRR… Simple Carbs ARE the problem not IS!!! Shoot!! ---
**Author:** ![j\_kat\_251](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@j\_kat\_251](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j_kat_251)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/38 "2003-01-22T03:15:44Z")
> [@](#): > > If more heavy people stood up to the media, those standards would be changed. I’m not sure what the fuck you’re talking about here. I have no scientific documents to back this shit up, but I know I like to look at a woman who’s not a fatass blubber-whale. Most of my friends do too. There’s nothing wrong with a bit of extra cuddle area or whatever you want to call it, and I agree being superstickthin is pretty repulsive too, but there’s no way in the world anyone I know wants to sex up Rosie O’Donnell, and never would even if she got 60 million of her friends to take over the media. ---
**Author:** ![Pucky\_Schumer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Pucky\_Schumer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucky_Schumer)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/39 "2003-01-22T04:13:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RexDart \* > \*\*\<------------- not sorry > > Get it through _your_ head that the media is only doing what makes it money. That’s all they can be expected to do. Yes, not everyone looks like the image of an ideal woman, and some people on this very board disagree about what exactly that is, _but_ the media is out to make money.\*\* And not just the big media. I remember reading a while back about the glut, if that’s the word, of pro-anorexia websites. I looked some up, and sure enough, there was an entire culture espousing and advocating super-thinness, with slogans I won’t repeat here because some sites came with warnings that they could be “triggering.” It looked to me like a subculture in itself of pro-anorexic and pro-bulemic women. I support free speech, but it bugged me that many sites were supporting something that could be damaging to someone’s health. As for me, if I channel-surf onto one of those fashion networks with the 6-foot, 98-lb. models, I don’t ogle – I gape. ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/40 "2003-01-22T04:35:07Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes,I have a huge ass.SO STOP STARING!! Did you mean to say, “Yes, I **AM** a huge ass”? Just wondering, because that’s certainly how you’re acting. What a hypocrite, seriously. Get a grip, girl. No one cares about your ass. Stop judging others on THEIR weight. idiot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041.md?page=3)