# Inspired by cichlidiot...Take this,fat bashers!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 21, 2003, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041 "2003-01-21T19:52:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/61 "2003-01-22T15:56:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fatmac98 \*  
> \*\*I call bullshit on this. If most chicks had XXXL cups, then bra companies would make XXXL cup bras. It’s simple economics. The media does not decide what size bras will sell, the demand for different sized bras is what determines the sizes made.  
> \*\*

And I’ll call bullshit on this. Have you ever been to a women’s clothing store at sale time? Clearance sales. Interestingly, all that’s left is Smalls, Mediums, 34A bras, size four dresses. There’s always a glut of small sized clothes, and this is because women need larger clothes, and women who wear larger sizes what FASHIONABLE clothes.

Try to find a size 12 pant at a clearance sale. It ain’t happening. But fashion designers aren’t getting the message.

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/62 "2003-01-22T15:58:55Z")

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\*\* Boo \*\*–believe me if I could afford a gym membership right now I"d have one but I can’t. So all I can do is my low-impact aerobics and my yoga._shrugs_  
**Bad** —_going over your other pots_–I’m sure you meant posts.:)I read that and thought “WTF is he doing in my kitchen?”😃  
In response…I don’t think I"m bitter. I just think I have strong opinions about things that happen to be colored by a childhood growing up straddling the poverty line,living next to the ‘richies’ for 20 years and never having anything.Being from the South also figures into it somewhere, I think. So no…I’m not bitter. I just have an opinion.🙂

**alice** –I said it was INSPIRED by cichlidiot’s post, not BASED on it. FWIW, fuck off.😃

Have a NIIIIIICE day,everyone.😃  
IDBB

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/63 "2003-01-22T16:00:10Z")

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Smilie clean up…aisle five

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/64 "2003-01-22T16:02:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fatmac98 \*  
> \*\*And trust me, everyone is not staring at you because you are fat. You are being paranoid. If you were really, really fat, maybe, but from your description, uh-uh. \*\*

Probably staring at her because of the spiked leather collar, the black “I am going to kill all you conformist pigs” T-shirt and ripped up black pants with a Chandalier hanging out the back pocket mixxed in with her dyed purple hair and the fact that she was looking at a fish tackle box when it exploded. That is the more likely explination.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/65 "2003-01-22T16:03:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \*  
> [B So no…I’m not bitter.  
> \*\*

huh.  
could have fooled me.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/66 "2003-01-22T16:05:03Z")

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**IDBB** your parents’ attitude was unconscionable, ethically reprehensible and thoroughly disgusting.

While you may be due some serious sympathy, my impulse to do so is seriously tempered by your comments in the [other thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=157699&perpage=50&pagenumber=1) and the title of this one which imples that **cichlidiot** was “fat bashing” which was clearly not the case in her OP.

The thread is full of stories of serious illness from the inability to gain enough weight to be healthy, including “I’m infertile because I can’t gain weight.” “I can go into hypoglycemic shock” you spouted the following gem and then ran off never to return.

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> **You thin people have NOTHING to bitch about!NOTHING! At least you are thin,be proud of that.**

I reiterate (because you probably never returned to see how anyone responded to you):

My cousin DIED!

At 32, he was _very_ tall and _very_ thin.

He _was_ “proud of that.” His momma thought it was just great. In a family where even the men are under 5’6" and the adults all rolly-polly there _surely_ seemed to be “NOTHING to bitch about.”

No, he did NOT suffer from annorexia, he did NOT starve himself. He ate well. In fact he ate a _lot_! But never seemed to gain a pound. Amazing! But clearly “NOTHING to bitch about.” Sure people joked about it “Oh, boo-hoo! Look how thin he is. Not feeling so good? Oh, puh-lease, you can’t complain! Look how skinny you are, if you don’t feel good then _eat_ something!”

He literally dropped dead at a family function.

Turns out, he had a connective tissue disorder that no one in the family had ever even heard of until the autopsy results. It made him _very_ tall and _very_ thin. With “NOTHING to bitch about”, no one ever thought to check and see why he was so anamolous to the rest of the family. Everyone was too busy thinking “at least he’s thin, be proud of that.” Why ask a doctor if something is wrong?

The _point_ of **cichlidiot’s** OP is that it’s _wrong_ to put people’s weight under scrutiny and then offer a myriad of opinions while knowing jack shit about that person’s circumstances. It is _sick_ when Alicia Silverstone’s “shocking weight gain” draws enough attention to eclipse the winners at a 1997 awards show. It is just as sick when the media then turns around in 2003 and says “How shocking! That actress looks emaciated. Yuck!”

Those comments are hurtful, if not downright harmful – no matter on which side of the coin you find yourself.

_Some_ people are fat or skinny because of bad choices in nutrition.

_Some_ people are fat or skinny because of medical conditions.

_Some_ people are fat or skinny because they are emotionally stressed out and respond to the stress by eating too much or not eating at all.

While it may exasperate you that skinny people dare to bitch about their skinniness, your comments were uncalled for. The thread was dealing specifically with the misfortune of being at one extreme end when the “ideal” is smack in the middle.

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/67 "2003-01-22T16:05:53Z")

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**Epimetheus** –😃  
Thanks.I needed that.😃  
and for **Jar** :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Have a niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice day.:)😃

IDBB

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/68 "2003-01-22T16:06:25Z")

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Right.

I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing “Hallelujah.”

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/69 "2003-01-22T16:08:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \*  
> \*\ ***alice** –I said it was INSPIRED by cichlidiot’s post, not BASED on it. FWIW, fuck off.😃 \*\*

Right.

So you go and drop shit all over her thread _OHHH THIN PEOPLE ARE SOOO LUCKY!! **POOOORRRR MEEEEE!!!** YOU SHOULD BE GLAD YOU’RE SO SKINNY! SO YOU GET SICK, MAYBE DIE - OH WELL YOU’RE STILL LUCKY. DID I MENTION **POOOOOORRRR MEEEEE???** _

And never even bother to address the fact that you were a total jerk.

Why don’t you fuck off, bitch.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/70 "2003-01-22T16:10:31Z")

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I don’t think that’s true at all, is it andros.

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/71 "2003-01-22T16:12:00Z")

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What a fucking tool. Get a grip, IDBB. Grow up a bit, would you?

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/72 "2003-01-22T16:13:33Z")

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**andros** –Right is the answer. I had an extremely traumatic homelife growing up,it’s amazing that I’m not dead. I should be. I attempted suicide TWICE. My parents constantly berated me and my two siblings for not being ‘good enough’. We were teased BY MY OWN PARENTS for not having good enough grades,looking good enough (when lord knows they were no prom king and queen theyselves),etc. My stepfather (who we always suspected was bipolar)would go into hysterical rages and destroy the house if it wasn’t clean enough.I even recall one instance when I got into a fight with my mother over some guy I wanted to go out with that sh e didn’t like and she had my stepfather hold me down while she hit me and slapped my face. The ONE time I dared report any of this shit to a school authority, my mother made me tell them I lied and then locked me in my room the entire weekend. I have a had a strange and most disturbing childhood.It’s a wonder I’m not insane or locked up in prison or something.It’s a goddamned MIRACLE I have what I have now.I guess I am just lucky.  
And for everyone who called me bitter, you try surviving shit like that and end up not bitter.  
IDBB

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**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/73 "2003-01-22T16:14:54Z")

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Hey guys, where’s the love?

Thought you might find [this article](http://dailynews.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20030122/od_nm/love_dc) interesting.

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> **Love, Not Diet, Key to Weight Loss, Report Says**  
> ROME (Reuters) - Forget dieting – there’s nothing like love to help you shed those extra pounds, according to a survey published by an Italian health magazine this week. Eight out of 10 Italians find that a new love interest is the best way for both men and women to get into shape, Dimagrire (Lose Weight) said in its February issue

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**Author:** ![Wicked\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/2acd7d/32.png) [@Wicked\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wicked_Blue)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/74 "2003-01-22T16:15:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \*  
> An open letter to everybody who has **EVER bashed a fattie or looked the wrong way at a fattie or made snide comments** (or hell,even given ‘constructive criticism’ for that matter)about or to fat people.

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> \*\* I am sick and fucking TIRED of being stared at by skinny people when I go someplace and eat a hamburger or something. \*\*

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> **Yes,I have a huge ass.SO STOP STARING!!Other people have huge asses.You’ve seen them before. It’s not a novelty,for chrissakes! And yes…I have boobs. A D-cup,TYVM. Everybody(well…all females anway)has boobs. Stop staring at mine and saying how I have a uniboob that merges into my stomach.They do not.**  
> IDBB

Where do you live that people stare and make comments about your ass and boobs? I am a “fattie” (to use your word) and I can’t remember ever having a stranger make a negative comment to me, outside of the playground when I was a fat kid.  
Want to talk about big boobs? I wear either a DDD or a F, depending on the bra. Strangers look at them (they enter the room 15 minutes before I do, it’s unavoidable), and I’ve even heard some comments…not necessarily _nice_ comments (“Woo! Lookit them titties!”) but not negative (“Look at the gross uniboob!”), either.  
I also have a big fat ass. It kinda balances out the big boobs. I dress in a way that is flattering, and wear clothes that fit properly. If I was to walk around wearing say, skin-tight hoochie pants and a belly shirt, I’m sure I’d hear negative comments.  
The trick to being a sucessful “fattie” is to dress well and carry yourself like a lady.  
Is it perhaps what you’re wearing that is causing negative attention?

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/75 "2003-01-22T16:19:09Z")

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“I’m not Bitter”

“I’m Bitter”

huh?

and the WORST thing about this train wreck is that you \*still \*haven’t appologized for being a total jerk.

Instead, we get smilie posts, which makes you come off as a bigger jerk.

wow.  
You really should consider seeking help.  
Melt down on aisle 6

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/76 "2003-01-22T16:21:54Z")

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**Wicked** –I don’t see how it can be.Most of the time I wear dark-colored teeshirts or longsleeved shirts (some dressy,some not) and jeans and tennis shoes. When I do choose to ‘dress up’, I usually wear one of three things:A longsleeved black shirt with iron-gray flowers embroidered on the hem and a long black skirt,a black short-sleeved shirt and a calf-lenght black skirt with crimson flowers embroidered on the hem OR (my favorite)an iron-gray lace floorlength dress (it’s got a black thingie sewn undeneath so it’s not like it’s see-thru)that has short sleeves and a matching lace shawlthingie with little tassles on it. I don’t see how what I’m wearing (unless I decide to add my spiked collar that day)can draw attention to me.I wear normal clothes for goddess’ sake.😕  
I have heard (while at a salad bar of all places) somebody who was three places down and to the left of me(on the other side of the glass across from me) whisper “Oh god…look at the freak piling all that stuff on her salad.No wonder she’s so fat.” when all I had added to my pile o’ lettuce was a bit of tunafish and some cheese.😕

IDBB

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/77 "2003-01-22T16:22:36Z")

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\<hijack\>Is there anyone left who respects this creature’s opinions at all after the way she’s behaved in this thread? It seems as though almost anyone can find an apologist…I’m honestly curious.\</hijack\>

As far as the “conformity” thing goes…

“Don’t tell me I have to be thin to look good!”  
“I am losing weight so I will feel better about myself!”

Uhm.

And the inaccuracies and waffling…  
“Wait! Wait! But I only got fat because my family was mean to me!”  
“No, wait! I’m losing weight because I have health problems!”

Also, the nicknames…“thinnies” for thin people. “Richies” for people who weren’t **BORN ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS OH THE HUMANITY**.

I am in the “Uhm, yeah…_definitely_ bitter” camp.

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/78 "2003-01-22T16:27:42Z")

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Actually, **Hamadryad** –go here [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=158110](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=158110)  
In which I apologize for EVERYTHING I’ve ever done wrong.Ever.

IDBB

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/79 "2003-01-22T16:30:15Z")

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This reminds me somehow of this girl I used to have working for me as an office assistant. She was a pretty good worker, but the whole world was just out to get her- it permeated every aspect of her personality and she had to be let go because of it. She was just angry and miserable all the time.

The day she got fired (by my boss), she came into the office full of people in shock. She announced to everyone that she’d been fired and told us all it was because she had a “SHITTY FUCKIN’ ATTITUDE!!!” She was completely shocked by this, and did not at all see the irony in the fact that she was ranting away about her “shitty fuckin’ attitude” while currently exhibiting her shitty fuckin’ attitiude.

This just reminds me of it. So bizzare.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inspired-by-cichlidiot-take-this-fat-bashers/150041/80 "2003-01-22T16:39:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by andros \*  
> \*\*Right.
> 
> I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing “Hallelujah.” \*\*

You forgot about having to walk to work, 5 miles, uphill both  
ways.

😉

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