# Instead of the New Yorker?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** magazines-newspapers\
**Created:** [February 5, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922 "2025-02-05T16:18:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/21 "2025-02-06T11:11:26Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> If you want a progressive left-wing slant, _The New Republic_ and _Nation_ and _Mother Jones_ will pile on the sauce like a Buffalo Wild Wings joint.

And those aren’t progressive and left-wing enough for you, try _The Baffler_.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/22 "2025-02-06T23:27:51Z")

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_Washington Monthly_ and _Columbia Journalism Review_ are also ok alternatives, though I wonder if CJR has been starting to get a little more rightwards lately. I was lucky to get weekly handmedown NYs from mum (subscriber since late '40s), and then when she passed, have been getting NY handmedowns from my brother.

> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> It seems strange to request something that’s pointedly of a particular political bent

Any periodicals mentioned here with a less political bent?

> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Why not just look for good and interesting things, end of sentence?

Meh, the _New Yorker_ qualifies.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/23 "2025-02-07T13:46:35Z")

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Is there any other magazine that still runs regular comics?

_Playboy_ used to, of course, but I don’t think they do in their online incarnation. I think _American Scientist_ still does. After that I draw a blank.

I agree, most _New Yorker_ cartoons are so sophisticated it isn’t funny.

Which makes it ironic that I have a _New Yorker cartoons_ desk calendar this year. But at least I understand the cartoons, and some of them are even funny.

(Cartoon of kid with wings standing right next to a TV, looking at. Caption: “Icarus! Not so close!” Would anyone not a Boomer get that one?)

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/24 "2025-02-07T13:57:14Z")

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I auto pay as little as possible. only my car note and my Direct TV, in fact. Auto pay can be very convenient, but it can also be the Siren call to inattentiveness and even laziness. Habitual auto paying can not only nickel and dime one to death, one can also end up not wanting half the stuff you are paying for. It also encourages me to balance my check book and check it against my bank.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but magazines seem like they are half ads and half things you can find out on the Internet for free. I’m surprised they even still exist.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/25 "2025-02-07T14:28:12Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> (Cartoon of kid with wings standing right next to a TV, looking at. Caption: “Icarus! Not so close!” Would anyone not a Boomer get that one?)

Is the TV drawn as a console piece of furniture, a free-standing CRT, or a modern flat-screen?

But yeah, that caution seemed to have died a slow death about the same time our own youthfulness did.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/26 "2025-02-07T14:55:40Z")

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I’d have to agree that the quality of the magazine has generally fallen, and the cartoons are not what they used to be in perhaps happier times. Many are just simply not funny.

But going back to happier times, not that every cartoon needs to be about dogs, but here’s a classic from 1956:

[![](https://i.imgur.com/Vs07xFV.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Vs07xFV.jpeg)

And then there’s this all-time classic from about 20 years ago:

[![](https://i.imgur.com/fiMSzSM.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/fiMSzSM.jpeg)

And you gotta love this one!

[![](https://i.imgur.com/hjBx6PZ.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/hjBx6PZ.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/27 "2025-02-07T15:00:11Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> a console piece of furniture

This. So it’s definitely the province of the Boomer

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/28 "2025-02-07T15:14:24Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> [Arts & Letters Daily](https://www.aldaily.com/)

I came here to suggest this site. VERY comprehensive!  
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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Caption: “Icarus! Not so close!” Would anyone not a Boomer get that one?

What does being born between 1946 and 1962 have to do with knowing about Greek mythology?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/29 "2025-02-07T15:19:07Z")

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The point is our Moms warned us to not sit too close to the TV lest it wreck our eyes with evil radiation. Modern kids watching modern flat screens don’t get those warnings from their parents = our now-grown kids.

The Icarus with wings part is just adding some Classics snobbery to a straight up inter-generational misunderstanding joke. A joke that works for Boomers who remember the warnings but doesn’t work for folks below about age 35 who don’t.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/30 "2025-02-07T16:29:01Z")

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Oh, ok. Thanks for the explanation. I’m a dyed-in-the-wool Boomer (born 1948). I guess I never got that warning.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/31 "2025-02-07T16:31:54Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I guess I never got that warning.

Did your parents let you swallow watermelon seeds or let you swim after eating? Is it too late to inform Child Services?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/32 "2025-02-07T16:33:20Z")

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I bet she even … gasp … rode in the back of a pickup truck.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/33 "2025-02-07T16:37:28Z")

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Hehe. We kids worried that swallowing watermelon seeds could make you pregnant. Or at least _look_ pregnant. Were boys told not to swallow watermelon seeds? 🤔 I didn’t swim. I was an overlooked child, even (paradoxically) being an only child. Not a lot of rules or directives. I had to figure out stuff for myself.

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I bet she even … gasp … rode in the back of a pickup truck.

Never knew anyone with a pickup. Didn’t move to Texas until high school. Anyway, in the 1960s everybody and their dog didn’t have a pickup. When I got married the first time my husband’s father gave us a pickup for a wedding present. Yeah, plenty of back-of-pickup activity then. Going to the drive-in and _backing_ into the spot with ice chest, blankets, and lawn chairs! But I was in my 20s by then.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/34 "2025-02-07T19:33:41Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I think _American Scientist_ still does.

The mag stopped running comics after the great Sidney Harris died. Just as they stopped running the engineering column after the great Henry Petroski died.

I leave the metaphor to the reader.

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**Author:** ![GailForce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dfb087/32.png) [@GailForce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GailForce)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/35 "2025-02-07T19:36:30Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I find the OP’s complaints odd, since the subscription price is only a small fraction of the cover price

Merely a reference point.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/36 "2025-02-07T20:00:39Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> The mag stopped running comics after the great Sidney Harris died. Just as they stopped running the engineering column after the great Henry Petroski died.

Did I miss something?

Reports of Harris’ demise appear to be exaggerated. The first link below is copyright this year by Harris.

> **[Science Cartoons Plus -- The Cartoons of S. Harris](http://www.sciencecartoonsplus.com/pages/bio.php)**
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> The cartoons of S. Harris

> **[Sidney Harris (cartoonist)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Harris_(cartoonist))**
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> Sidney Harris, a.k.a. S. Harris, is an American cartoonist who draws cartoons about science, mathematics, and technology.
> Harris was born in Brooklyn, New York on May 8, 1933, and obtained his degree from Brooklyn College. He then attended the Art Students League in New York before beginning his career as a science cartoonist in 1955.
> Harris's cartoons have appeared in numerous scientific journals as well as general-audience magazines. Over 600 of his cartoons were published by American Scienti...

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/37 "2025-02-07T21:09:07Z")

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Blame my memory, which is rapidly approaching the state of our democracy.

I def don’t remember any cartoons in the mag recently, regardless.

Now I’ll go downstairs and open an issue and find it festooned with cartoons.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/38 "2025-02-07T21:12:54Z")

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> [@GailForce](#):
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> How expensive it is. $9.99 the cover price on the latest issue. I’ve got a continuing subscription, letting them bill my credit card, but ten bucks per issue is crazy.

I googled and found $60 per year, Print + online, plus a bonus 20 issues of the print.

It is one of the first 'zines I grab in a waiting room, great cartoons and some articles.

Myself, I only subscribe to Consumer Reports, and sometimes Car & Drive when they beg me and offer me a unbeatable deal- last time it was $7 for a year.

IMHO Consumer reports is worth it.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/39 "2025-02-07T23:24:12Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I googled and found $60 per year, Print + online, plus a bonus 20 issues of the print.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/instead-of-the-new-yorker/1013922/40 "2025-02-08T00:14:31Z")

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