# Insults in the pit **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 10, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770 "2021-04-10T22:16:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/1 "2021-04-10T22:16:51Z")
Must’ve overlooked this in the stickies - Can I accuse someone of being a sock in the pit? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/2 "2021-04-10T22:28:43Z")
You can - but only in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/3 "2021-04-10T22:33:08Z")
Cool, thanks. Was maybe 80% sure, but it’s good to dead sure about some things. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/4 "2021-04-10T22:35:18Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Can I accuse someone of being a sock in the pit? You can even accuse someone of being a shocking cock sock there. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/5 "2021-04-11T01:12:58Z")
Those are the chicken-zapping foot covers I assume. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/6 "2021-04-11T02:01:49Z")
Yes, the chicken booters. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/7 "2021-04-11T10:41:46Z")
So, junior modding is allowed in the pit? “You’re a sock” is not an insult, it is another form of prohibited behavior. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/8 "2021-04-11T10:48:38Z")
I think it falls under the same rule as calling someone a troll, which you can do in the Pit and not elsewhere. Socking is a form of trollery. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/9 "2021-04-11T15:44:19Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > So, junior modding is allowed in the pit? “You’re a sock” is not an insult, it is another form of prohibited behavior. “You’re a sock!” is not junior modding. Mods don’t tell socks “You are a sock!”, they simply ban them. “Don’t make political jabs in GQ!” would be junior modding, since it’s close to what a mod would do if they considered a post in GQ to be a political jab. That said, I’m fairly certain junior modding is allowed in the pit. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/10 "2021-04-11T16:34:53Z")
> [@naita](#): > > That said, I’m fairly certain junior modding is allowed in the pit. I’m not sure that’s actually true, so much as there are relatively fewer moddable infractions to junior-mod. I’m guessing that junior-modding a perceived violation of one of the Pit’s few rules would still be moddable. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/11 "2021-04-11T16:41:37Z")
Junior modding in the pit must involve saying “No warning given.” ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/12 "2021-04-12T03:42:02Z")
Yes, it’s okay to call people “socks” in the Pit, as well as “troll.” A lot of the rules in the other forums are there to help prevent fights from starting. That’s not really a concern in the Pit, so most of those rules don’t apply, or work in slightly different ways. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/13 "2021-04-13T03:59:50Z")
I thought that “junior modding” was any content that has the effect or apparent intent of admonishing a poster of a rule violation, regardless of language, vocabulary, spelling or punctuation. The definition of “junior modding” being germane to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/14 "2021-04-13T14:38:52Z")
That would make any accusations of trolling, being a jerk, or being a sea lion in the Pit “junior modding”. Since calling someone a troll is definitely allowed in the Pit, it must not be considered junior modding. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/15 "2021-04-13T15:11:46Z")
Right, this is my sense as well. You can’t junior mod something which is not a moddable infraction, according to the rules of that forum. If I insult you in the Pit, and you accuse me of insulting you, that’s not junior modding. That’s more like “Duh, and here’s another.” ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/insults-in-the-pit/939770/16 "2021-04-13T20:23:55Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Right, this is my sense as well. You can’t junior mod something which is not a moddable infraction, according to the rules of that forum. This is true, but the converse doesn’t necessarily hold: socking is not allowed anywhere on the board, including the Pit, but you can still accuse someone of being a sock in the Pit without necessarily drawing a note for junior modding. Likewise, hate speech is very much against the rules in the Pit, but I’m not going to mod other posters for calling out someone using racial slurs. I wouldn’t go quite so far as to say that the rule against junior modding doesn’t apply at all in the Pit, but I’m having trouble thinking of a scenario off the top of my head where I’d enforce it. I suppose if someone were continually trying to explain the rules to other posters, and getting it wrong, I might invoke it, but it’d have to be a fairly chronic problem.