# Intelectuallly Inferior Dopers, UNITE!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 18, 2004, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640 "2004-07-18T00:30:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/161 "2004-07-27T14:41:12Z")
> [@zephyrine](#): > > **ZombiesAteMyBrain** , our job is to subtly undermine them, and/or keep them on their toes. So long as they never open this thread, they have no way of knowing who we are. Maybe the first strategy we have to rethink is - how do we stop them smarties opening this thread and discovering who we are and what we’re thinking [well, what passes for thinking in this elite group, anyhow]?? ---
**Author:** ![zephyrine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zephyrine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zephyrine)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/162 "2004-07-27T15:00:04Z")
> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#): > > Maybe the first strategy we have to rethink is - how do we stop them smarties opening this thread and discovering who we are and what we’re thinking [well, what passes for thinking in this elite group, anyhow]?? Does it have a question in the title? Is it in GD or GQ? Does it mention God, Israel or Republicans? I rest my case. ---
**Author:** ![PussyCow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@PussyCow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PussyCow)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/163 "2004-07-27T16:26:13Z")
Can I join the Intellectually Inferior Dopers club, too? I know, I need to be an official Doper first, but this is a big reason why I haven’t joined yet. I’m scared of joining and then everyone quickly learning how dumb I am and not wanting to communicate with me. So far in my posts folks generally ignore me or get offended at what I write. I don’t mean to be offensive, I’m not very good at intoning mood in my writing. [Jon Lovitz voice]I just want to be loved, is that so wrong?[/Jon Lovitz voice] ---
**Author:** ![PussyCow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@PussyCow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PussyCow)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/164 "2004-07-27T17:08:15Z")
> [@laina\_f](#): > > **Name of club:** IIDU - Intelectuallly Inferior Dopers United (pronounced “double I do”). > **Xash** suggested SDUMB (Straight Dope United Moronic Bums) and IDIOTS (Inferior Dopers (Intellectually) Of The Straightdope), but the consensus seemed to be that these were a bit too clever. > Also suggested: DUD (Dumb United Dopers). > > **Motto:** Open to discussion. (No, the motto is not “Open to discussion”; the subject of the motto is open to discussion. I hope I’m not disqualified from the club for using a semi-colon.) > The only motto suggested so far (by me) is “Keeping our unsupported opinions to ourselves since 1973, at least most of the time,” which I’m changing to “Keeping our uninformed opinions to ourselves since 1973, at least most of the time.” > We could take our motto from one of our T-shirt logos:[ol] > [li]Out five bucks and still ignorant.[/li][li]The guy standing next to me is with stupid.[/li][li]Hi, Opal.[/li][li]How come I have all the questions and tomndebb has all answers?[/li][/ol] > **Logo:** A messed up ASCII picture of a putz running into a pole. > > Discuss. I really like the T-shirt motto “The guy standing next to me is with stupid”. I would get that shirt. I just read all 162 posts (after posting my first one in this thread). [Cartman voice]I love you guys.[/Cartman voice] ---
**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/165 "2004-07-27T19:02:20Z")
I noticed that some people early in the thread point specifically to the works of Stephen Hawking when claiming ignorance. You must remember that, just because the author, publisher, and various paid reviewers all say that Hawking’s general audience books explain various advanced physics phenomena in an easy-to-read-and-understand format, it doesn’t mean they actually DO. I understand most of the concepts presented in his books, and I find his prose to be nearly impenetrable. So before you write yourself off, remember there’s a difference between knowing something, and knowing how to explain it clearly. (hypno music begins…) In fact, since none of you are really as ignorant as you might believe yourselves to be, you proles… er, um,… D’oh-pers may wish to disband this little club of yours before things go too far, don’t you think? Yes, that’s it! After all , the more you talk to each other, the more you will find out how much more even some “dumb” Dopers know than you, and that won’t be very comfortable, will it? Finding out you’re not even smart enough for the “dumb” group? Imagine your potential anguish… It’s more fun to be alone and uncommunicative, isn’t it? Better to disperse, yes. Disperse right now… (hypno music trails off…) ---
**Author:** ![GillianBoardman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GillianBoardman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GillianBoardman)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/166 "2004-07-27T19:58:02Z")
> [@scotandrsn](#): > > (hypno music begins…) > > In fact, since none of you are really as ignorant as you might believe yourselves to be, you proles… er, um,… D’oh-pers may wish to disband this little club of yours before things go too far, don’t you think? > > Yes, that’s it! After all , the more you talk to each other, the more you will find out how much more even some “dumb” Dopers know than you, and that won’t be very comfortable, will it? Finding out you’re not even smart enough for the “dumb” group? Imagine your potential anguish… > > It’s more fun to be alone and uncommunicative, isn’t it? > > Better to disperse, yes. > > Disperse right now… > > (hypno music trails off…) Don’t listen to him! We are home…home where our unfounded opinions run free! I don’t know how put a link in here either…but I got smacked pretty fast for not having a cite to prove that religion is not the cause of all gay bashing. I stand by my unproven opinion, so I belong! ---
**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/167 "2004-07-27T22:51:15Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > Did someone here say they wanted to be an IUD? Prince Charles? I more or less stopped posting months ago because I got tired of feeling like a jerk in front of my (supposed) peers. ---
**Author:** ![williamweigand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b3f665/32.png) [@williamweigand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/williamweigand)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/168 "2004-07-28T00:05:16Z")
> [@scotandrsn](#): > > I noticed that some people early in the thread point specifically to the works of Stephen Hawking when claiming ignorance. My D’oh moment – I didn’t realize that the earlier references to Hawking meant _Stephen_ Hawking! I’ve heard of him , but just didn’t make the connection. Also , I’m probably the only one here who thought that “username” meant real name. Otherwise , I’m too intelligent to qualify for membership in this club. ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/169 "2004-07-28T04:12:46Z")
I’m not sure if I’m dumb enough or not because most of my posts don’t get responses. I don’t know how to bold people’s names but I did learn how to quote threads recently. I’m wondering (which may disqualify me immediately) if we of this thread have the EQ and all the others have the IQ? ---
**Author:** ![Call\_me\_Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Call\_me\_Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Call_me_Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/170 "2004-07-28T04:17:00Z")
> [@MelCthefirst](#): > > I’m wondering (which may disqualify me immediately) if we of this thread have the EQ and all the others have the IQ? EQ? Eccentricity quotient? ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/171 "2004-07-28T04:55:15Z")
First, I’ve always misread the word “unite” as “untie”. Strangely enough, I read “untie” as “unite”! (What’s the deal with punctuation and quotations again?) I’m decently smart, but I have the attention span of…something with a small attentio…look! Something shiny! _holds up new truck_ Oh, and I love this quote, “Out five bucks and still ignorant”. I’ll read the other, scary forums, but there are big, angry kids there, who are VERY serious and play hardball with great vigour. I’m just a wimp who thinks that just maybe people _can_ get along. I’ve seen some wonderful threads in MPSIMS. And isn’t it this type of stuff that really makes up our lives? And…hey, look! Gargoyles is going to come out on DVD! Woo! ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/172 "2004-07-28T09:54:58Z")
> [@MelCthefirst](#): > > I’m not sure if I’m dumb enough or not because most of my posts don’t get responses. I don’t know how to bold people’s names but I did learn how to quote threads recently. > I’m wondering (which may disqualify me immediately) if we of this thread have the EQ and all the others have the IQ? You are in Kiwi land. That should explain all. I think we need to disassociate ouselves from Cafe Society as well- they are a mob of tree hugging trouble makers. All they talk about is the stinking Simpsons. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/173 "2004-07-28T12:20:41Z")
I deserve to be in the club! Plus, I ain’t funny… or even clever. Sometimes I think I am smrt, but usually not. Do I get a t-shirt? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/174 "2004-07-28T14:43:39Z")
I adore the SDMB, mostly because it helps to fill the niche of intellectual stimulation for me that was once filled with college, and for that I am very gratefull. However, I too have felt like a bastard step-child on many occassions. I’ve always considered myself to have a decent vocabulary, but my spelling, punctuation, and grammar simply suck. I’ve killed enough threads to consider hiring myself out as a hit woman. I’ve fumbled and stumbled around in GQ and GD enough in my short tenure, that I’d be lucky to have (maybe) 2% of the teeming millions willing to even read any threads that I start. But I’m ok with that. So what are we going to do if everyone on the boards self-identifies with this thread? 😃 Viva la revolution!! ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/175 "2004-07-28T20:33:54Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > You are in Kiwi land. That should explain all. Well, then you definitely should be here, in fact, I’m surprised this club doesn’t contain all SDMB Aussie posters, and a few dirty (as in muddy coloured) sheep, he he. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/176 "2004-07-29T02:54:08Z")
> [@](#): > > I deserve to be in the club! > > Plus, I ain’t funny… or even clever. Sometimes I think I am smrt, but usually not. > > Do I get a t-shirt? None of us are ever funny or clever. It doesn’t stop us from keying in whatever brain fart blows through the empty space between our collective ears. This behavior is encouraged in our society. Its known at **OCMDPD**. \*Obcessive Compulsive Mental Diaherra Posting Disorder. \* There is no cure, it is not fatal. No telethon can save you. Yer F\*cked. Welcome aboard! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/177 "2004-07-29T03:08:51Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > There is no cure, it is not fatal. No telethon can save you. Yer F\*cked. 😃 The story of my life! Count me in…the hideously informed people in GD scare me. I’m used to people accepting what I say as Gospel and not questioning it (I am a teacher.) This “Back up your position with\* facts\*” crap is for the birds! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/178 "2004-07-29T10:06:39Z")
> [@MelCthefirst](#): > > Well, then you definitely should be here, in fact, I’m surprised this club doesn’t contain all SDMB Aussie posters, and a few dirty (as in muddy coloured) sheep, he he. You haven’t been here long enough to be getting cute. And Dewdropgirl, the way you spelled ‘smart’ qualifies you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/179 "2004-07-29T14:19:02Z")
I don’t think being funny or clever disqualifies anyone from membership in the IIDU, any more than choosing the name of an ancient philosopher as a user name does. Some of us are darn funny – maybe not consistently, maybe not at the intellectual level of **coldfire** or **fenris** – but we are capable of getting in a good one now and then. I suspect that many of us have “idiot savant” type skills – certain things that we are inexplicably very good at. I, for example, am an extremely good programmer. But I cannot intelligentally discuss technology, and information concerning geography, history, philosophy, politics, …, simply will not stay in my brain. I hope that we of the IIDU can accept and encourage the few skills and talents that our members have. It would be a shame for this fine organization to turn into a Great Debate over who’s dumb enough to belong. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2004, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640/180 "2004-07-30T09:43:44Z")
> [@laina\_f](#): > > I don’t think being funny or clever disqualifies anyone from membership in the IIDU, any more than choosing the name of an ancient philosopher as a user name does. Some of us are darn funny – maybe not consistently, maybe not at the intellectual level of **coldfire** or **fenris** – but we are capable of getting in a good one now and then. > > I suspect that many of us have “idiot savant” type skills – certain things that we are inexplicably very good at. I, for example, am an extremely good programmer. But I cannot intelligentally discuss technology, and information concerning geography, history, philosophy, politics, …, simply will not stay in my brain. > > I hope that we of the IIDU can accept and encourage the few skills and talents that our members have. It would be a shame for this fine organization to turn into a Great Debate over who’s dumb enough to belong. I sure hope that was all said tongue in cheek. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intelectuallly-inferior-dopers-unite/255640.md?page=10)