# "Intellectual Dark Web" Stupidity Omnibus **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 4, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193 "2019-01-04T13:53:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/21 "2019-01-04T18:16:56Z")
[Joe Rogan Explains His Political Views](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GBwXOEuZYB4) He’s not 100% left, but he’s certainly not right wing. His wiki page is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/22 "2019-01-04T18:24:30Z")
> [@Elmore](#): > > [Joe Rogan Explains His Political Views](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GBwXOEuZYB4) > > He’s not 100% left, but he’s certainly not right wing. His wiki page is wrong. I never said he was right wing. Are you not seeing the word “Libertarian”, or do you think it means the same thing as “Left”? ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/23 "2019-01-04T18:33:12Z")
Minor quibble, the named individuals are mostly political pundits, their quest for publicity is antithetical to the “Dark Web”. “Dark Web” is a specific term for sites that cannot be found by using normal search engines or visited by simply pointing a browser at a public site. Darknets by definition are overlay networks on top of the Internet but which require specific software to access. These idiots income streams are largely generated explicitly by being as public and loud as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/24 "2019-01-04T18:41:16Z")
Rogan may not be right-wing, in fact a lot of these folks would not list themselves as such, but they are reactionary. Carl Benjamin had his twitter account suspended for sending gay porn to Nazis. He didn’t want Nazis following him. Fine and Dandy but he never considered that he was getting Nazis following him because he was saying things they liked. ---
**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/25 "2019-01-04T18:42:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I never said he was right wing. Are you not seeing the word “Libertarian”, or do you think it means the same thing as “Left”? The OP said it though ---
**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/26 "2019-01-04T18:45:41Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > Minor quibble, the named individuals are mostly political pundits, their quest for publicity is antithetical to the “Dark Web”. > > “Dark Web” is a specific term for sites that cannot be found by using normal search engines or visited by simply pointing a browser at a public site. Darknets by definition are overlay networks on top of the Internet but which require specific software to access. > > These idiots income streams are largely generated explicitly by being as public and loud as possible. The term was coined by Eric Weinstein as a joke. He calls it that because they’re not scared to talk about things that might get you no platformed. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/27 "2019-01-04T18:46:03Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > Minor quibble, the named individuals are mostly political pundits, their quest for publicity is antithetical to the “Dark Web”. > > “Dark Web” is a specific term for sites that cannot be found by using normal search engines or visited by simply pointing a browser at a public site. Darknets by definition are overlay networks on top of the Internet but which require specific software to access. > > These idiots income streams are largely generated explicitly by being as public and loud as possible. That’s exactly why I coined an [alternate name for the IDW](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21123213&postcount=1637). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/28 "2019-01-04T18:48:40Z")
> [@Elmore](#): > > Rogan supports higher taxes on the rich, universal health care, an end to the drug war and prison reform. He’s also very anti-Trump. It’s not spin to call him left. Here’s a better question, why do you think he’s right wing? As I usually do, I check with who he was/is walking with. Rogan was a big buddy of Alex Jones, AFAIK until Rogan _finally_ noticed how Jones was into harmful, crazy conspiracy theories. So Rogan is better than Alex now, but not by much, For example, Rogan now thinks that he is an agnostic regarding if the Apollo missions were fake. :rolleyes: “ignorance is such a gift” :rolleyes: as Arian Foster said congratulating Rogan for his “I don’t know” bullshit position on the moon hoax. So, while in the past I would qualify Rogan as just an ignorant conspiracy entertainer, the sad reality is that commanded by FOX and other right wing misinformers, bullshit conspiracies are being supported and enhanced with a twist: they are turned into right wing litmus tests geared to the ignorant that do vote. It was not that way as conspiracies snarl both conservatives and liberals alike, but after several years of experience I have to report that a lot of harmful conspiracies are being weaponized by the right and followed and spread by many “intellectuals” of the dark web and run of the mill right wing sources and sites. > [@Elmore](#): > > As for Rubin, that’s how he labels himself and I’ve not seen anything to contradict that. Vox reported a bit about Rubin over here: > **[The "Intellectual Dark Web," explained: what Jordan Peterson has in common...](https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/5/10/17338290/intellectual-dark-web-rogan-peterson-harris-times-weiss)** > > A controversial New York Times article describes several popular white intellectuals as marginalized "renegades." > [@](#): > > Weiss is largely sympathetic to dark web intellectuals. Still, she is obviously troubled by the new movement’s tendency to embrace right-wing conspiracists such as Pizzagate rumormonger Mike Cernovich, lite-alt-righter Milo Yiannopoulos, and the frothing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. > > Dave Rubin justifies this to her by saying that they don’t now want a statement of principles but are “just a crew of people trying to have the kind of important conversations that the mainstream won’t.” In Weiss’s description, dark web intellectuals are “committed to the belief that setting up no-go zones and no-go people is inherently corrupting to free thought.” > > However, intellectual openness is not the only possible reason the dark web is flirting with the dark enlightenment. Recent political science research suggests that Trump’s popularity in the 2016 presidential election was based on “status threat.” Members of high-status groups that had lost prestige were more likely to be receptive to Trump’s rhetoric. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/29 "2019-01-04T18:51:21Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > That’s exactly why I coined an [alternate name for the IDW](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21123213&postcount=1637). 🙂 It is too bad “Confederacy Of Dunces” is already taken, because then we could refer to their online spewings as “CODpieces”. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/30 "2019-01-04T18:54:34Z")
The three you mention I am familiar with are not even right of center. Rogan, Peterson, and Rubin are basically center left on nearly all issues. Calling Rubin “reactionary” is grounds to dismiss you entirely, but I will allow you to explain yourself. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/31 "2019-01-04T18:58:01Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > This is the spin. It’s actually kind of laughable - Rubin, left-libertarian? Rogan, left-leaning democrat? Peterson deserves a more thorough treatment when I’m not on my phone, but looking at his philosophy and statements “centrist” is stretching the truth quite a bit. Perhaps you should at least skim their content instead of basing your claims 100% on hack filters of opinion. I am willing to concede that encouraging common sense personal responsibility has been labeled by zany leftists as reactionary. I think everyday folks across the spectrum would disagree. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/32 "2019-01-04T18:58:36Z")
> [@Elmore](#): > > The term was coined by Eric Weinstein as a joke. He calls it that because they’re not scared to talk about things that might get you no platformed. Still, it is a devolution of precise language, entire industries and governments and inter-agency agreements will have to come up with “yet another bit of jargon” to cover the need for concise and accurate communication. Especially from an author who publicly bitches about terms like [LGBTQ](https://twitter.com/ericrweinstein/status/1066934424804057088?lang=en) Yet he “cut and pasted from stack overflow” himself. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/33 "2019-01-04T19:18:58Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The three you mention I am familiar with are not even right of center. Rogan, Peterson, and Rubin are basically center left on nearly all issues. > > Calling Rubin “reactionary” is grounds to dismiss you entirely, but I will allow you to explain yourself. Uh, I’m not the one you replied to, but:… [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dave\_Rubin](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dave_Rubin) > [@](#): > > Rubin has referred to organisations like the New York Times, CNN, the BBC and USA Today as “fake news”,[33][34][35] even claiming that he “won’t watch” CNN as long as it employs Reza Aslan.[36] However, Rubin has claimed that Rebel Media is “doing a pretty good job from everything I’ve seen”[37], appeared on The Alex Jones Show to talk about the “Cult of the Left”[38] and has featured with Tucker Carlson and Bill O’Reilly on Fox News.[39][40] Now, that really does not fit as being “center left” and my point that dark web guys like him are falling for poisonous conspiracies is more on the money. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/34 "2019-01-04T19:27:27Z")
Sort of similar. There is a new TV station that will probably out ‘fox’ FOX. Blaze TV. Now I can’t find this advertising tag line on line, but heard about it on the Michael Smerconish show on POTUS radio (Sirius XM) Anyway, the tag line was “No Censorship, No Liberal Ads”. HHAHAHAHHAH. Stupid fucks can’t string two sentences together with out contradicting themselves. No doubt the site that the OP is talking about will be much the same. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/35 "2019-01-04T19:32:57Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Uh, I’m not the one you replied to, but:… > > [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dave\_Rubin](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dave_Rubin) > Now, that really does not fit as being “center left” and my point that dark web guys like him are falling for poisonous conspiracies is more on the money. He has promoted conspiracy theories? How does his assessment of various media have anything to do with his placement on the political spectrum? His policies are like a non-interventionist 90’s Bill Clinton. My assessment is based on 100% skimming of his content. Is yours based solely on hack filters of opinion or did it include any primary sources? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/36 "2019-01-04T19:53:24Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > guys like him are falling for poisonous conspiracies > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > He has promoted conspiracy theories? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/37 "2019-01-04T20:10:57Z")
> [@Elmore](#): > > Also, the IDW isn’t right wing. Harris and Rogan are both left-leaning Democrats. Rogan endorsed the Libertarian in both the 2012 and 2016 elections, and does not belong to any part, so calling him a Democrat has to be done without a whole lot of evidence. He’s not really a part of the Jordan Peterson gang either, though they have a lot of fans in common. Rogan is sort of a weird Greek god of Red Bull. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/38 "2019-01-04T20:28:48Z")
Pseudo-intellectual dark web is more like it. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/39 "2019-01-04T20:30:47Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Rogan endorsed the Libertarian in both the 2012 and 2016 elections, and does not belong to any part, so calling him a Democrat has to be done without a whole lot of evidence. > > He’s not really a part of the Jordan Peterson gang either, though they have a lot of fans in common. Rogan is sort of a weird Greek god of Red Bull. I like Rogan as a UFC commentator, and he occasionally does, to his credit, get innerestin people on his show, but I can’t sit and listen to anything for hours at a time, much less Eddie Bravo trying to make a coherent argument for why the earth is really flat and why we never visited the moon (or whatever he spouts on about). They should stick to what they know, like how to break someone’s neck. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193/40 "2019-01-04T20:52:50Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > :rolleyes: I am not that familiar with his content having watched a couple interviews and segments, though I seem to be much more familiar than a majority here that have formed a very solid opinion of him. Do you have examples of something he has pushed? Please refrain from the 6 degrees of separation people like to engage in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectual-dark-web-stupidity-omnibus/827193.md?page=3)