# Interactive, Collective Chess Match

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 23, 2001, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976 "2001-04-23T07:15:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2001, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/1 "2001-04-23T07:15:59Z")

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This is something of an experiment.

– Everyone break out your chess boards.  
– If your screen name contains an odd number of characters (spaces count), then you play white. Even, black.  
– Just post the next move for your side (when it’s your side’s turn), preceded by the whole game history up to this point (so people can jump in without having to comb the whole thread). Just cut and paste. You should bold your move, too (as opposed to the unbolded game history).  
– For clarity’s sake, you should should include exactly which move you are posting in the subject line.  
– We’re using **old notation** (since that’s what I’m familiar with), not new. Please remember that the board coordinates for your next move are therefore determined by the side you are on. If white wants to move to “b2,” for example, that would be “QN2” (Queen’s Knight 2). If black were to move to that same square, however, it would be “QN7.”  
– In case of simulpost, only the first post for any given mood counts, the others are disregarded.  
– If I can figure out an efective way of diagraming the board (it’s harder than you might think), I will occasionally pop in to do so, but feel free to post the board setup whenever you feel like it (so long as you’re sure that it’s accurate, of course).  
I’ll post White’s first move in 60 seconds (we’ll start simple). After that, have at it.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2001, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/2 "2001-04-23T07:17:06Z")

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**1. P-K4**

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2001, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/3 "2001-04-23T09:46:03Z")

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1 … **P-QB5** (c5)

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2001, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/4 "2001-04-23T10:34:13Z")

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1. P-K4 . . . P-QB4
2. **Kt-QB3(b1c3)**

**pulykamell** , c5 would be black’s QB4, not QB5. I can see where descriptive notation would be a problem for those who aren’t used to it. From now on: Use whichever notation you like, so long as it is accurate and unabridged. No shorthand – write out “h2-h4,” for example, not “h4.”

[http://www.eudesign.com/chessops/cpr-not.htm](http://www.eudesign.com/chessops/cpr-not.htm)

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**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2001, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/5 "2001-04-24T01:15:24Z")

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Here are some chess sites on the web:

> **[Internet Chess Club](https://www.chessclub.com/)**
>
> The Internet Chess Club (ICC) is the longest running, most popular, and best place to play chess on the Internet. Join, play, watch, learn and earn money too when you invite your friends to join ICC!

[http://kasparovchess.com/serve/templates/folders/ck\_home.asp?p\_folderID=2](http://kasparovchess.com/serve/templates/folders/ck_home.asp?p_folderID=2)  
[http://play09.pogo.com/rooms/roomsel-mini.jsp?game=chess&site=pogo&lkey=3add95d7430cd80ad032a4520000283c](http://play09.pogo.com/rooms/roomsel-mini.jsp?game=chess&site=pogo&lkey=3add95d7430cd80ad032a4520000283c)

There are others. They are all free, except for [http://www.chessclub.com](http://www.chessclub.com), which charges $50 a year. There is another one which is a correspondence-type chess: you don’t play speed or at the board, but are allowed a couple of days for moving, but I lost the website. I found it was not very competitive. h4 is the standard notation for pawn from h2 to h4 or from h3 to h4. I don’t see where one has to put in superfluous notations.

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**Author:** ![Verrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/46a35a/32.png) [@Verrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Verrain)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2001, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/6 "2001-04-24T13:07:48Z")

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Kt - KB3 g8…f6

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**Author:** ![moodtobestewed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ab097/32.png) [@moodtobestewed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moodtobestewed)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2001, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/7 "2001-04-24T16:16:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by barbitu8 \*  
> \*\* There is another one which is a correspondence-type chess: you don’t play speed or at the board, but are allowed a couple of days for moving, but I lost the website. I found it was not very competitive._\*

You’re probably thinking of:

[http://www.itsyourturn.com/](http://www.itsyourturn.com/)

Some opponents are clueless, but there are still plenty of good players to be found.

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**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2001, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/8 "2001-04-24T20:28:40Z")

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That’s it, Mood. I recently had to install a new hard drive and lost all my bookmarks.

Just for comparison, see how much nicer and more concise, algebraic notation is than descriptive:

1. P-K4 P-QB4
2. Kt-QB3 Kt-KB3

or long algebraic:

1. e2-34 c7-c5
2. Ktb1-c3 Ktg8-f6

Now, look at:

1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nf6

Moreover, the correct notations are not “b1c3” and “g8-f6,” but Nb1-c3 and Ng8-f6. If you don’t mention the piece, the notation refers to a pawn move, which is here impossible.

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**Author:** ![Verrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/46a35a/32.png) [@Verrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Verrain)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2001, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/9 "2001-04-24T21:16:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by barbitu8 \*  
> \*\*That’s it, Mood. I recently had to install a new hard drive and lost all my bookmarks.
> 
> Just for comparison, see how much nicer and more concise, algebraic notation is than descriptive:
> 
> 1. P-K4 P-QB4
> 2. Kt-QB3 Kt-KB3
> 
> or long algebraic:
> 
> 1. e2-34 c7-c5
> 2. Ktb1-c3 Ktg8-f6
> 
> Now, look at:
> 
> 1. e4 c5
> 2. Nc3 Nf6
> 
> Moreover, the correct notations are not “b1c3” and “g8-f6,” but Nb1-c3 and Ng8-f6. If you don’t mention the piece, the notation refers to a pawn move, which is here impossible. \*\*

Thank you for the corrections. It has been a while since I’ve used chess notation. Now that you are done correcting our grammer, how about pulling up a board and submitting a move? The thread is dying and could use your help.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2001, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/10 "2001-04-24T22:33:13Z")

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I teach chess at my school and play regularly in events.

I can recommend [kasparovchess.com](http://kasparovchess.com) (where I play as glee).

The main problem with Doper consultation games (we tried some over a year ago) is that the players are of differing standards. One move by an inexperienced player can wreck the position.

Perhaps the best model is when Kasparov played the Rest of the World. The moves for the World were chosen by vote, so blunders were less likely.

If anyone wants to play by e-mail, I’m game!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2001, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/11 "2001-04-25T00:38:40Z")

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I’ll jump in here once I get home… I just hope that this lasts longer than [when I tried it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41147). Mate on move 18… Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2001, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/12 "2001-04-25T01:33:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Verrain \*  
> \*\*Now that you are done correcting our grammer, how about pulling up a board and submitting a move? The thread is dying and could use your help.  
> \*\*

My name has 8 characters. I can only move for Black. At the next opportunity, I will jump in.

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**Author:** ![Verrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/46a35a/32.png) [@Verrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Verrain)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2001, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/13 "2001-04-25T01:38:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by barbitu8 \*  
> \*\*
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > \*Originally posted by Verrain \*  
> > \*\*Now that you are done correcting our grammer, how about pulling up a board and submitting a move? The thread is dying and could use your help.  
> > \*\*
> 
> My name has 8 characters. I can only move for Black. At the next opportunity, I will jump in. \*\*

I missed that restriction at the OP. I shouldn’t have submitted a black move what with seven letters in my name. Although since there seems to be a distinct lack of players, perhaps that rule can be bent.

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**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2001, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/14 "2001-04-25T01:58:27Z")

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This is Varos’ thread. I think he should be the one to change the rules.

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**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2001, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/15 "2001-04-25T02:07:09Z")

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Here is a very good website for chess info and books. There is a link for playing, but is a handicapped system:

[http://www.chesscafe.com/](http://www.chesscafe.com/)

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2001, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interactive-collective-chess-match/62976/16 "2001-04-25T05:03:03Z")

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How to post a Chess Diagram

Hope this helps.
