# Interesting (and ANNOYING) Dog Behavior Development-Opinions Please? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993 "2011-06-10T16:56:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/1 "2011-06-10T16:56:11Z")
My male Gordon Setter Nick has always been very sweet and mild mannered. As an intact male, I was happy that he rarely showed any interest in humping like I hear many males will. My female Gordon Kharma is spayed, and has always been very protective of him. Last Saturday, I decided to shave Kharma. Since being spayed she has developed that horrible spay coat, very cottony & matts easily, so especially in the summer, she is more comfortable shaved. I left hair on her tail & ears. AS SOON as she got off the grooming table, Nick jumped on her, humping away. I stopped him, thought it was because she looked different & would soon stop. Almost a week later, it has not. He is constantly after her, humping and licking and will not leave her out of his sight. Kharma, who has never growled at anyone, has begun snapping at him. Even with both of us correcting him, still he humps. At night, she has started actually getting out of bed because he won’t leave her alone, and he lays there next to me and whines and air scents (noisily) for her. I am at wit’s end. I am getting very little sleep-if I crate him, he howls. She still SMELLS like Kharma, why should her having less hair be acting as an aphrodisiac for him??? Any ideas or suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/2 "2011-06-10T17:12:04Z")
> [@PapSett](#): > > I am at wit’s end. I am getting very little sleep-if I crate him, he howls. She still SMELLS like Kharma, why should her having less hair be acting as an aphrodisiac for him??? I shouldn’t laugh, but I am. Sorry. 🙂 Maybe Kharma’s coat was masking her female-ness, and now that it’s gone, Nick sees what he’s been missing. I’d try giving Kharma a bath and see if that helps. Poor Kharma! ---
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/3 "2011-06-10T17:21:36Z")
Personally I’d fix him. If you don’t mind my asking, why is Nick still intact? Are you wanting to breed him or show him or something? If fixing him isn’t an option I suggest a squirt gun. Our french bulldog has learned that as soon as mom or dad pick up the squirt gun she needs to go lay down in or next to her crate which has been incredibly helpful in making her stop attacking the cats when she is feeling a bit too playful. ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/4 "2011-06-10T17:27:16Z")
How old is Nick? If he hasn’t been fixed, I’d do it; it’s fairly cheap, routine, and quick. He might have to wear the Cone of Shame for a day or two (which he will NOT like), but it’s no biggie. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/5 "2011-06-10T17:29:32Z")
Nick isn’t neutered because he _IS_ a show dog, had 9 of the needed 15 points toward his championship, so at this time, neutering is not an option. However, if he keeps this crap up, an exacto knife & duct tape are looking mighty tempting… ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/6 "2011-06-10T17:32:24Z")
> [@PapSett](#): > > Nick isn’t neutered because he _IS_ a show dog, had 9 of the needed 15 points toward his championship, so at this time, neutering is not an option. Ah, that does make it more difficult. I can only suggest firm discipline then. I know it’s a tricky problem to solve! ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/7 "2011-06-10T20:34:19Z")
\ “… that horrible spay coat …” I have never heard of this concept. Female dogs get a different coat texture after being spayed? \ ---
**Author:** ![kaiwik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaiwik/32/3978_2.png) [@kaiwik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaiwik)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/8 "2011-06-10T22:52:10Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > \ “… that horrible spay coat …” I have never heard of this concept. Female dogs get a different coat texture after being spayed? \ It can happen. I own a different breed with a double coat and the change in hormones can change the texture of a coat. In my experience one of my males has developed a cotton-y coat, and it’s such a pain to groom (for him as well) that I keep his coat trimmed pretty short. **PapSett** let me know if you ever find the cure for The Humps. I have another male who is In Love with one of my girls (all animals in my home are now neutered) and follows her constantly, all the while doing the air hump. Makes my female crazy, and she is frequently putting him in his place, which makes for a pack on edge. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/9 "2011-06-10T23:55:18Z")
Yup, what moorland reiver said. It can happen to both sexes, I had another male Gordie that I had neutered and his coat changed too. It’s a pain, really makes the coat difficult to keep tangle free. I have tried a squirt bottle with a teeny bit of vinegar in the water, Nick just looks at me tragically and goes back to humping… ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/10 "2011-06-11T00:41:34Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > \ “… that horrible spay coat …” I have never heard of this concept. Female dogs get a different coat texture after being spayed? \ Oh, Og yes! Our neighbours got a retired show dog, and they took her in to the vet and had her spayed. There was an EXPLOSION OF HAIR and the dog looked like an entirely different creature than the one they brought home. She looks like half the dog there used to be. Her fur will grow back. I’ve been told it will be quite lush when it comes in, but right now, she looks like a shaved llama. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/11 "2011-06-11T14:54:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Nick just looks at me tragically and goes back to humping… Oh, man. Poor Nick - I am laughing so hard. I have no advice, except maybe you should open a hair salon, PapSett. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/12 "2011-06-11T15:08:24Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Oh, man. Poor Nick - I am laughing so hard. I have no advice, except maybe you should open a hair salon, PapSett. For dogs, maybe. I cut my own hair and sure don’t have men humping me uncontrolably… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-and-annoying-dog-behavior-development-opinions-please/584993/13 "2011-06-11T21:31:23Z")
Your dog was obviously gay and then for some reason, you discovered a secret food that made him straight 🙂