# Interesting podcast conversation between Sam Harris and Charles Murray (of "Bell Curve" fame)

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Evil, I thought it was fishy that you posted an excerpt without a link to look it up, so I Googled. Center for American Progress, right? You left out (or more charitably, didn’t see) this part:

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> The purpose of this data collection was to analyze state and local spending on general education in districts receiving Title I funds. This means that some big cat- egories of spending were excluded, among them all federal dollars, expenditures on special education, adult education, school nutrition programs, summer school, preschool, and employee benefits (other than salaries).

:dubious: Except for those things, eh? What a joke. You should be embarrassed for offering this up as supposed evidence of your position. Pfffft.

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