# Interesting podcast conversation between Sam Harris and Charles Murray (of "Bell Curve" fame) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-podcast-conversation-between-sam-harris-and-charles-murray-of-bell-curve-fame/785052 "2017-04-23T09:21:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1232
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-podcast-conversation-between-sam-harris-and-charles-murray-of-bell-curve-fame/785052/1232 "2018-04-16T22:25:43Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > See above, and my reply to kb as well. The fact that they don’t have similar needs is my whole point: they have greater needs because they come to school with lower aptitude. So more money is spent on them, much of which takes the form of special education (but also Title 1 reading help, nutrition programs, summer school, preschool, tutoring, etc.). They still end up with lower aptitude on average, but not as low as if they got the same money spent on them as white students get on average. Sorry, I’m still not understanding you. Here’s my very simple question: black students get less funding than white students with similar needs–yes or no? That seems like a simple yes or no question to me. The above may be too complex for you, Mr Category 2, so I’ll dumb it down a little: Black special needs students get less funding than white special needs students, yes or no? Black regular needs students get less funding than white regular needs students, yes or no? Since you and I both happen to know that the answer to the above three questions is “yes” (though you seem to be avoiding saying so for some reason that probably rhymes with “weasel”), there’s a follow-up question: The above is an example of our schools failing black students, yes or no? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-podcast-conversation-between-sam-harris-and-charles-murray-of-bell-curve-fame/785052)._