# Interesting podcast conversation between Sam Harris and Charles Murray (of "Bell Curve" fame)

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“Paternal racist” is simply a term so you can admit you’re racist, required for many of his debate positions, while simultaneously saying “but I’m not a jerk about it!”.

Oh, and I thought of where Slacker “prescribed” how blacks would be better off. In his [Why doesn’t some rich Dem move blacks where we need them to vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=866250) thread he said more than once that it’s for their own good as well and when someone suggested some equally silly population move, mentions how black Mississippians couldn’t handle living in North Dakota. I remembered it because he tried the same deflection trick there.

> [@Why don’t Tom Steyer or George Soros move black Mississippians to Pensacola or Atlanta?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-don-t-tom-steyer-or-george-soros-move-black-mississippians-to-pensacola-or-atlanta/825187/61):
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> And you think moving 2% of the black population of Mississippi is remotely doable. It’s a dumb fucking idea. It’s not reaistic logistically or politically. You seem to be under the delusion that everyone disagrees for some politically correct reasons.

> [@Why don’t Tom Steyer or George Soros move black Mississippians to Pensacola or Atlanta?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-don-t-tom-steyer-or-george-soros-move-black-mississippians-to-pensacola-or-atlanta/825187/69):
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> \<snip\>  
> Black Mississippians are not going to be able to handle living in ND. I live right next to the ND border, so trust me on this.  
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> Izzat right? :dubious: Then I’m sure you can cite the post where I expressed this idea you say I “seem” (weasel word) to have. In reality, that in no way resembles anything I think: I am, to be sure, no fan of political correctness—but I don’t even know what the PC angle would be in this case.

> [@Why don’t Tom Steyer or George Soros move black Mississippians to Pensacola or Atlanta?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-don-t-tom-steyer-or-george-soros-move-black-mississippians-to-pensacola-or-atlanta/825187/70):
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> Hey, they’re called weasel words for a reason. You certainly haven’t addressed some of the reality based questions your proposal would require answering. Like how many people you hope to move, how you avoid the legal hurdles of race based hiring, etc. You utterly avoided my request for some examples of this strategy being planned let alone executed.

> [@Why don’t Tom Steyer or George Soros move black Mississippians to Pensacola or Atlanta?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-don-t-tom-steyer-or-george-soros-move-black-mississippians-to-pensacola-or-atlanta/825187/71):
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> You’re changing the subject. What did I say that indicated I was laying disagreement at the feet of “political correctness”?

> [@Why don’t Tom Steyer or George Soros move black Mississippians to Pensacola or Atlanta?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-don-t-tom-steyer-or-george-soros-move-black-mississippians-to-pensacola-or-atlanta/825187/72):
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> I apologize for incorrect impression.
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> You may now lay out some specifics for your plan. If that proves difficult, you may have answered your own OP as to why Soros doesn’t do this.

And then silence.

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