# Interesting podcast conversation between Sam Harris and Charles Murray (of "Bell Curve" fame) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-podcast-conversation-between-sam-harris-and-charles-murray-of-bell-curve-fame/785052 "2017-04-23T09:21:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 264
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-podcast-conversation-between-sam-harris-and-charles-murray-of-bell-curve-fame/785052/264 "2017-04-25T13:21:18Z")
This post from **SlackerInc** from a few years back has it right about race – Sam Harris is just plain wrong that race is “primarily biological”: > [@When will "reformers" learn that you can't blame "failing schools" for low test scores?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-will-reformers-learn-that-you-cant-blame-failing-schools-for-low-test-scores/732266/15): > > Whoa, Nelly! I never said anything about race, which is [not even a valid biological taxonomic classification.](http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/PAGE-ONE-No-Biological-Basis-For-Race-3310645.php) The points I made about the test scores of children of college-educated professionals (which are basically the yardstick everyone else is expected to live up to) would apply perfectly well to a school whose PTA meets at the local [Jack and Jill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_Jill_of_America) club. It’s a shame that your views have shifted towards the white supremacists since then. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-podcast-conversation-between-sam-harris-and-charles-murray-of-bell-curve-fame/785052)._