# International cricket rolling thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** cricket\
**Created:** [January 22, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205 "2019-01-22T16:30:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2083 "2022-07-10T12:56:41Z")

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Assuming 100 runs a session (and that’ll be fast, Aus over rates have been appalling considering most of the overs are being bowled by spinners), at Tea tomorrow SL could be 250 ahead. At that point, an Aus win is unlikely, but SL would have to bowl Aus out on a pitch they’ve just got 600 on, leaving enough time to get any target.

It’s not an easy question to answer.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2084 "2022-07-10T12:57:41Z")

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SL have a lead of 70.

It’s not going to get easier to bat so they’ll bat on until they are dismissed.  
If that is in the morning session on Day 5 with a lead of 270-300, that leaves AUS to bat out time for the draw.

In which case the draw become more likely only if they leave themselves in sufficient time to bowl AUS out.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2085 "2022-07-10T13:09:12Z")

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If at tea tomorrow SL are dismissed (or less likely declare) with a 250 run lead then AUS are going to need 400 min, which is going to take at least 3 sessions to accumulate.

That would give SL 30 overs to chase down 150.  
AUS are not going to be that generous, assuming they have a choice in the matter, so they either need more runs in 3 sessions which is unlikely or to bat for more than the 3 sessions denying SL time to chase.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2086 "2022-07-10T13:11:24Z")

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At this point I would say Sri Lanka should bat on until they are dismissed or are 250 ahead.  
If they do get 200+ ahead, they basically can’t lose. Either Australia would bat out four sessions or lose (50% SL, 50% Draw)

If the end up all out 150 ahead before lunch , then Australia could conceivably score 350 and set them 200 to chase in two sessions, and bowl them out. But that’s rather far fetched. (20% AUS, 50% Draw, 30% SL)

And of course there are various mix and match scenarios.

What I don’t see happening is Australia going Bazball when 150 behind, posting 350 in 70 overs and then having a whole day to bowl out Sri Lanka or Sri Lanka to chase it down.

Overall I would say 50% Draw, 40% SL, 10% Australia.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2087 "2022-07-11T08:51:40Z")

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SL close with a lead of 190.

AUS have 54 overs to bat today today and min 90 tomorrow.  
Not sure I see AUS getting to parity by stumps.  
I don’t see AUS setting a target of less than 200 in a session of 30 overs.  
So this needs a collapse for a result and AUS are the guys most likely.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2088 "2022-07-11T09:18:21Z")

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Double ton for Dinesh Chandimal, giving SL the better chance of the win.

Draw is probably favourite now, but and AUS collapse is always possible. It’s a long way from an AUS win, but it’s weird what can happen sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2089 "2022-07-11T10:03:51Z")

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Just checked after a little while away, and Aus are 4 down, with Smith gone for a 4 ball duck. Labuschagne is still there, so there’s still the chance, but today has been all SL

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2090 "2022-07-11T10:14:27Z")

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Labuschagne and Green or Carey will need to do something pretty heroic here, or Sri L

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2091 "2022-07-11T10:51:05Z")

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Well that’s thoroughly rogered that plan!

Two test series, each game won by an innings by each team!

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2092 "2022-07-11T11:05:14Z")

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What the heck happened to the rest of my message?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2093 "2022-07-11T11:06:17Z")

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Not quite done yet. Defeat yes. Innings defeat, maybe not.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2094 "2022-07-11T11:17:56Z")

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I assume the rest of your message was something like “anka will win at a canter”, which is what they are doing. Carey is still there, and may well make SL bat again, but David Lloyd is just outside, starting his car

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2095 "2022-07-11T11:28:25Z")

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Prabath Jayasuriya takes 12 on debut, the best return for a SL bowler on debut, and probably quite high up on the overall list of best bowling debuts

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2096 "2022-07-11T12:11:56Z")

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I wonder how much the unrest in Sri Lanka played a part in the Aus collapse. I didn’t watch much of this one, but you don’t often see them get beat down that badly. I think they can be forgiven for wanting to get the heck out of Dodge. I’m not saying that they would have tanked, but sometimes these things come from the subconscious.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2097 "2022-07-11T13:57:04Z")

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Might just be political correctness/basic courtesy, but Australian Captain Cummins:  
“[To the fans] Thank you for the lovely hosts you’ve been to our team throughout our tour here. We felt it straight away on the streets, in crowd even - we’ve never felt that before, a whole stadium here cheering for us. We’ve had a great five weeks here, absolutely loved it and can’t wait to get back.”

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2098 "2022-07-12T12:45:18Z")

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England getting obliterated in the first ODI so far by Bumrah. This leads to me to a thought I’ve had. Has anyone ever considered a 2-day match, in which each team bats 2 innings of 50 overs each? To me, this would be a nice middle ground between an ODI and a Test match, in which one bad innings of batting doesn’t automatically doom you.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2099 "2022-07-12T13:26:56Z")

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There was a suggestion at one point that 2 innings of 20 overs each could be added in one day, but it’s never gotten off the ground. As far as I’m aware, there’s never been a serious level competition that had multiple limited overs innings.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2100 "2022-07-12T18:36:21Z")

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Incredible - they actually played out the games on a local cricket pitch.

> **[India: How a fake 'IPL' cricket league ran for Russian punters](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-62123966)**
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> Police say a gang set up a fake version of the Indian Premier League and fooled Russian gamblers.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2101 "2022-07-13T17:03:39Z")

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The Windies embarrassed themselves this morning in their ODI against Bangladesh. Bowled out for 108 in only 35 overs. Bangladesh at 45/0 (11 overs). They’ll need a juicy 1.64/over to run down this chase. The tension is just palpable. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2102 "2022-07-13T17:11:34Z")

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Not even as many as Eng managed against India. These low scores are always possibly in ODIs, even when teams are playing well, it’s one of the weaknesses of the format really.

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