# International cricket rolling thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** cricket\ **Created:** [January 22, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205 "2019-01-22T16:30:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 114
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2263 "2022-11-06T03:05:18Z")
SA need 41 off 3. Odds now favour NED ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2264 "2022-11-06T03:06:22Z")
Klassen now. Will take a miracle now. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2265 "2022-11-06T03:10:24Z")
3 runs per ball to win. This would take one of the worlds best to steer them home from here. And SA only have the tail. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2266 "2022-11-06T03:19:06Z")
Despite giving SA the barest sniff with a wide and noball plus free hit NED are home. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2267 "2022-11-06T03:20:04Z")
So we know England v India in 1 semi, and the winner of this next game v NZ in the other. Assuming no weather issues. ETA: Sorry, this is wrong. India can lose 1st place still. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2268 "2022-11-06T10:12:17Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > I have a Dutch friend who I have taken to a previous Netherlands international game when Ryan Ten Doeschate was playing. He had no idea they were in the cup, there’s no coverage at all. > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Yes, the Dutch people I’ve spoken to had no idea that Netherlands even had a second-tier national cricket team. > > Even though the cricket stadium where the Dutch national team plays and practices is in the same sports complex where one of them played hockey for twenty years. (And others played tennis in the same complex) > > He thought they were just a club team. And certainly there were more spectators at his club games sometimes than for international matches. > > I’m assuming that at least Namibia (for example) has a sizeable community that cares about cricket. Netherlands seems to have a team that is way, way better than any interest in the population would indicate. The best way to fix that is to get them to win. And the best way for that, is to get them to play more. ICC are you listening ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2269 "2022-11-06T11:20:23Z")
Well that was a very satisfying night of cricket! ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2270 "2022-11-06T11:27:07Z")
Was an interesting group stage, down to the wire in both groups. Pakistan got through ahead of South Africa after a shock win by Netherlands - SA may have got unlucky with the No Result against Zimbabwe, but the extra point would still have seen them behind Pakistan on NRR. India vs England and Pakistan vs New Zealand. I think the obvious final is India vs New Zealand. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2271 "2022-11-06T13:13:37Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > I think the obvious final is India vs New Zealand. I agree, but just barely. Since these are T20’s, I think each team probably has between a 20 -30% chance to win the cup. So basically all toss-ups. But this version of the T20 World Cup is much better than the one last year, in which there was a clear advantage to winning the toss and then chasing. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2272 "2022-11-06T14:02:14Z")
Right now at Ladbrokes (implied percentages are mine) India 2/1 (30.5%) England 5/2 (26.2%) New Zealand 3/1 (22.9%) Pakistan 7/2 (20.4%) Hope I’ve got my sums right, but it seems the punters agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2273 "2022-11-06T17:37:14Z")
They clearly think the winner of India vs England will go on to win the cup. I’m supporting England, obviously, but if not I’d rather it went to NZ - they’ve suffered enough ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2274 "2022-11-06T19:05:07Z")
Correct. The implied conditional probability for England or India winning the final assuming they get there is 57%. Putting that into perspective the chances of South Africa beating Netherlands was 91.4%, which I thought was a ridiculously high number for T20. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2275 "2022-11-07T03:53:31Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > clearly Except for the “clearly” part. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2276 "2022-11-07T03:55:19Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > I’d rather it went to NZ - they’ve suffered enough Well, they just won the inaugural “Test World Cup”. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2277 "2022-11-07T11:46:54Z")
If Pakistan fail to win the World Cup with this bowling attack, it will be a travesty. If Pakistan do win the World Cup with this batting line up, it will be a travesty. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2278 "2022-11-08T22:00:50Z")
I can’t help but remember the [Pak v NZL 1992](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7hxUFPuxJA) semifinal. That damn game scarred me for life. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2279 "2022-11-08T22:40:22Z")
ha! nice one. I think as always we get to the last 4 with really not too much of an idea who will win it. it is a _bit_ of a lottery, but an entertaining one. I’ve enjoyed it no matter who goes on to win. Of course I’d like England to win but my money would be on India, certainly seeing as that semi-final is on a used pitch and we didn’t cover ourselves with glory against the spin of Sri Lanka. The other thing against England is the injury problem. I think with all our best players available we stood a much better chance but that isn’t likely to be the case. My gut feel is an India v Pakistan final. That’ll be a noisy one! ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2280 "2022-11-08T22:53:05Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > If Pakistan do win the World Cup with this batting line up, it will be a travesty. My understanding is that Babar & Rizwan have contributed over 50% of PAK T20 runs in the year. This tournament it is just 20%. So the guys who couldn’t get a bat pre-WC are the guys who have dragged the team through. Babar has scored less runs than PAK have received in wides. Like the French in a Rugby WC, PAK can be relied on to play at least one game when they are totally imperious. You just hope that’s somebody else’s misfortune. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2281 "2022-11-09T01:01:41Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > PAK can be relied on to play at least one game when they are totally imperious. You just hope that’s somebody else’s misfortune. And they must feel the wind at their backs at this point, as I’m sure they would have expected to be home by now. That’s dangerous for the other 3. My money’s on Pak over NZ tomorrow. India v Pak would be a real treat on early Sunday am. Won’t mind waking up at 3am for that one. If I sleep at all, since I’m also going to UFC at MSG the prior evening. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/2282 "2022-11-09T08:53:55Z")
Excellent start for Pakistan. Halfway through the NZ innings and they are going at less than 6 an over, three top wickets down. Pakistan are sharp in the field and you can see some hesitancy in the NZ running. Spin isn’t being hammered here but I reckon the tension is building. Predict NZ to cut loose very soon and lose wickets as a result. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205.md?page=113) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205.md?page=115)