# International cricket rolling thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** cricket\
**Created:** [January 22, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205 "2019-01-22T16:30:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3183 "2024-07-21T17:53:18Z")

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I was having a spirited debate at the start of the fourth innings with a colleague who said that West Indies had every chance of chasing this down. I said they’d be lucky to survive the day.

My first success in cricket prognostication in many a year.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3184 "2024-07-22T18:59:04Z")

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Yeah even as an England fan (or perhaps because of the memories), that collapse was hard to watch. Still, pretty well done by England, and at least it was more competitive than the first test.

I think someone on the BBC highlights said it was the first time over 400 had been scored in each of the first 3 innings, which I find remarkable.

And we’re so lucky to have Carlos Brathwaite as a commentator/analyst - superb voice and accent to listen to, and more importantly he’s fair, funny, and knows his stuff. But with much less ego than Vaughan (well yes, that last comment applies to almost everyone).

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3185 "2024-07-28T09:06:30Z")

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Third test very much like the second - Windies get into a promising position, but can’t capitalise and cede the advantage back to England. I only watched the highlights, but it looked like Alzarri Joseph in particular bowled way too short. And they’ll be kicking themselves for not reviewing that lbw shout when Joe Root was on 3, that was very costly (but understandable).

One thing I’ve noticed in this series is the camerawork doesn’t seem up to the usual standard - several times the ball has been nowhere near the frame. I wonder if some experienced operators have all left at once?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3186 "2024-07-28T13:53:35Z")

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Quite the collapse from the Windies tail there. Wood takes 3 wickets in 6 balls to end the match. England need 82 to win and got 12 from the first 5 balls in the 2nd innings. It’s only 3p there, so this will very possibly be over today.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3187 "2024-07-28T16:12:58Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> Third test very much like the second - Windies get into a promising position, but can’t capitalise and cede the advantage back to England. I only watched the highlights, but it looked like Alzarri Joseph in particular bowled way too short. And they’ll be kicking themselves for not reviewing that lbw shout when Joe Root was on 3, that was very costly (but understandable).

Me and my son were there on Saturday. First half hour, we thought we were going to see a W.Indies 1st innings lead, maybe a big one. But after that, they really didn’t threaten. The pace certainly wasn’t giving anyone trouble, and you could see them diminishing as the day wore on, and each new partnership kicked on.

A fun day, especially the last hour with big sixes and wickets falling for England. But can’t help but feel it’s too easy, W. I dies I think have the ability to be competitive but they need what everyone needs, match time to develop skills and mentality. And they’re not being given it, so they do worse, so they don’t get matches…

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3188 "2024-07-28T16:57:22Z")

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Stokes comes away with the fastest English test fifty to knock off the runs in 7.2 overs - opening because Crawley is off for a scan.

I do wonder if Ben wasn’t a little disappointed he didn’t have more to chase.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3189 "2024-07-29T07:28:28Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> But can’t help but feel it’s too easy

Absolutely. In the situations where Windies faltered, Australia will not. I doubt Sri Lanka will be much more of a challenge. Still, you can only beat what’s in front of you, winning is a good habit to get into, etc.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3190 "2024-08-07T09:47:28Z")

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Facebook reminds me that it was 9 years ago when you could compose a tweet of:

> [@](#):
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> The entire Australian 1st innings in the Trent Bridge Test:
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> 04W24W0W04100000W40000110W020000401000W000000000101000011W0011200010040040000W1W30000000000000400000000000001004W

So funny I bought the T-shirt.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3191 "2024-08-08T14:14:01Z")

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There can’t be many innings in which the last wicket partnership has contributed more than 20% of the total!

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3192 "2024-08-08T16:07:29Z")

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Just goes to show that England’s problems taking that final wicket aren’t new…

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3193 "2024-08-11T10:55:39Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> There can’t be many innings in which the last wicket partnership has contributed more than 20% of the total!

Just for the hell of the exercise. (curtesy of Cricinfo statsguru)  
In Tests, there have been 6,524 10th wicket partnerships (broken+unbroken)  
Average runs has been 13.03 with 28 centuries and 1,048 zeros.

The highest 10th wicket is 198 out of 10/496 (40%) by JM Anderson & JE Root for ENG v IND 2014  
The highest %contribution is 163 out of 10/280 (58%) by AC Agar & PJ Hughes for AUS v ENG 2013.

There have been 239 (3.7%) 10th wicket partnerships which contributed 20% of the innings total. 70 times (21.3%) by ENG. 51 times (29.3%) against ENG.

The highest score where the 10th inning contributed 20% was RE Foster & W Rhodes for ENG vs AUS 1902 scoring 130 out of 577 (23%)  
The lowest score where the 10th partnership contributed 20% was TR McKibbin & H Trumble for AUS vs ENG 1896 scoring 19 out of 44 (43%)

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3194 "2024-08-12T10:30:05Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> There have been 239 (3.7%) 10th wicket partnerships which contributed 20% of the innings total. 70 times (21.3%) by ENG. 51 times (29.3%) against ENG.

Fantastic work, sir. So it is (obviously) unusual, but not as rare as I imagined. I tip my hat to you for doing the research.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3195 "2024-08-15T13:00:07Z")

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Which website do all of you cricket fans go as your “one stop shop” for all things cricket; i.e. news, scores, analysis, statistics, etc.? ESPN Cricinfo is big, but any others?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3196 "2024-08-15T14:09:03Z")

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Cricinfo for most things  
BBC Sport for county matches

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3197 "2024-08-15T23:36:25Z")

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Cricinfo is der shit for international. One of the internet’s best websites.  
For Australian domestic and club - [PlayCricket](https://play.cricket.com.au/competitions?)

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3198 "2024-08-16T06:07:04Z")

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Cricbuzz isn’t bad for an alternative trip Cricinfo either.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3199 "2024-08-25T11:26:18Z")

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Pakistan were beaten pretty thoroughly at home by Bangladesh after declaring their first innings at 448/6.

> **[Pakistan v Bangladesh: Tigers win first Test by 10 wickets after Mushfiqur's 191](https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/articles/crlr2wkexn5o)**
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> Bangladesh beat Pakistan by 10 wickets in the first Test at Rawpalpindi after the hosts' second-innings batting collapse.

Sri Lanka put up a decent fight but were beaten by a fairly clinical England

> **[England vs Sri Lanka: Joe Root seals tense win at Old Trafford](https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/articles/c36n4wg3r9zo)**
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> Joe Root’s nerveless half-century helps England overcome some significant scares to defeat Sri Lanka on a tense fourth day of the first Test.

Both tests were way more interesting than they promised to be after the first day and a half.

Pakistan looked very comfortable on a very dead pitch, at least after they recovered from 16/3. From 448/6d they then somehow managed to at one point be in a position where it looked like they’d lose by an innings!

Sri Lanka looked dreadful in the first innings at 6/3 and then 92/6 but a second innings fightback gave England plenty to think about.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3200 "2024-08-25T13:51:08Z")

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For the life of me I do not understand why PAK, with as good a pace attack as anyone, grind them down into the dust by playing on pitches more suited to landing fighter aircraft on. Is it all about the PCB just not wanting to lose? How’s that plan going?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3201 "2024-08-25T14:02:03Z")

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Literally been wondering this for 40 years.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/3202 "2024-08-30T11:16:50Z")

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England get to 427 against Sri Lanka at lords, thanks to a lovely hundred by Root, a run a ball ton from Atkinson at 8, and not a lot else from the batters, sadly.  
Not bad after being put in though.

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