# International cricket rolling thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** cricket
**Created:** [January 22, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205 "2019-01-22T16:30:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 78
### Author:  [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1543 "2021-10-25T22:05:06Z")
A miss is a good as a mile.
This was our Welcome to the World Cup moment. Hope we learn from it.
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### Author:  [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1544 "2021-10-25T22:08:37Z")
“A miss is a good as a mile.”
Particularly when it takes out middle peg. 🙂
No doubt in my mind Scotland has earned it’s place and if you can deliver us a Rashie Jock McKhan in a couple of seasons, it will be more than worth the wait.
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### Author:  [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1545 "2021-10-25T23:45:06Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I suppose it wouldn’t be a huge shock if Afghanistan win a game against any of the 3, and that might be the decisive loss that pushes the others through.
If Afghanistan play like [this](https://www.icc-cricket.com/video/2309432) consistently they can beat any of the three big names in their group. Hell they could win the whole thing.
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1546 "2021-10-26T02:47:42Z")
Well, as much as there’s always the possibility of Rashid dismantling a lineup in his 4 overs, today’s performance was against Scotland. Let’s see how they do vs. Pakistan on Friday.
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### Author:  [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1547 "2021-10-26T15:28:04Z")
Drama of the wrong kind in the WI-RSA game:
> **[De Kock refuses to take knee](https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/59051327)**
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> Quinton de Kock makes himself unavailable for South Africa's T20 World Cup match against West Indies after refusing to take the knee.
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1548 "2021-10-26T16:52:59Z")
Wow, I turned the game on for a few minutes while working, and wondered if he was injured. That’s pretty surprising.
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### Author:  [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1549 "2021-10-26T21:09:55Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> That’s pretty surprising.
[incredulous]That there is a white supremist in the South African cricket team, with a long track record of not complying with this gesture of solidarity against racism, who’s ticked off that he was replaced as captain by Temba Bavuma? [/incredulous]
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1550 "2021-10-26T21:40:47Z")
I hear you, but usually the types you describe slink beneath the slime and don’t show that side of themselves, especially when their livelihood is dependent on keeping their beliefs private. Plus, watching De Kock over many years, how he interacts with teammates of various races (including in the IPL), and even the words of some of the West Indies players in the article…. well yeah, very surprising. I wonder if he’ll explain himself.
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### Author:  [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1551 "2021-10-27T10:14:54Z")
I cannot fathom the logic of forcing people to comply.
Plenty of people of all races refuse to take part in such political displays and it seems counterproductive to make it a condition of getting on the team. It would be like forcing a player to sing along to or salute a national anthem.
As long as his behaviour towards team-mates is acceptable then he should be allowed to stand aside while those who wish to take part do so.
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### Author:  [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1552 "2021-10-27T10:21:36Z")
South Africa has a bit of a special relationship with racism, and I’m not going to tell them how I think they should do things.
Bangladesh are 14/2 against England, with Ali taking 2 in 2 and only going for singles in his 2 overs so far. He’s loving this Cup so far!
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### Author:  [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1553 "2021-10-27T11:10:26Z")
An 8-wicket win? De Kock should be stubborn more often.
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I cannot fathom the logic of forcing people to comply.
You can’t fathom the logic of why a _South African_ team might insist on a unified face on a racism issue on the international stage? Or you just _disagree_ with it?
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### Author:  [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1554 "2021-10-27T13:51:17Z")
England beat Bangladesh very, very comfortably, overhauling 124 in just 14 overs, for 2 wickets lost. Roy with 61 off 38.
Bangladesh’s batting definitely looking a bit ropey: only 3 players saw more than 10 balls, only 3 scored more than a run a ball - and there’s no overlap between those categories.
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### Author:  [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1555 "2021-10-27T14:17:26Z")
> [@MrDibble](#):
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> You can’t fathom the logic of why a _South African_ team might insist on a unified face on a racism issue on the international stage? Or you just _disagree_ with it?
Forcing people to comply with poltical statements is never a good look.
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### Author:  [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1556 "2021-10-27T14:20:27Z")
That in no way answers the question put to you, but whatever.
Some _boertjie_ adamantly refusing to take a knee but without the balls to actually come out and give his reasons is what’s not a good look, here. Everyone knows he’s still pissed he’s not captain, but of course he’s not going to say that.
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### Author:  [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1557 "2021-10-27T14:28:01Z")
> [@MrDibble](#):
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> That in no way answers the question put to you, but whatever.
I would have thought it was obvious enough that yes, I disagree with South Africa forcing people to take a knee.
I supported Colin Kapernik taking the knee if he wanted to, I support any individuals taking the knee if they want to, I support anyone choosing not to take the knee as well.
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### Author:  [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1558 "2021-10-27T14:29:57Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I would have thought it was obvious enough that yes, I disagree with South Africa forcing people to take a knee.
It wasn’t obvious, since you phrased it as unfathomable, not just disagreeable.
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### Author:  [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1559 "2021-10-27T14:32:16Z")
> [@MrDibble](#):
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> It wasn’t obvious, since you phrased it as unfathomable, not just disagreeable.
Take it how you want. It literally makes no sense to me as the compulsion ends up completely devaluing the spirit of the original gesture.
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### Author:  [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1560 "2021-10-27T14:37:17Z")
It’s way more to do with things happening in South Africa than just the original gesture.
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### Author:  [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1561 "2021-10-27T15:00:42Z")
The team isn’t just 11 individuals. It’s an entity in itself - one which represents the country to the world, but also back to itself.
In that context, I think it is fair for the institution to make clear statements about what it values, and require individual team members to be part of making that statement.
In sporting news: _ochone_, _ochone_.
(Namibia are the second African team to ever play this tournament, so you know, good for them. But ouch.)
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### Author:  [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-cricket-rolling-thread/828205/1562 "2021-10-27T15:09:08Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> (Namibia are the second African team to ever play this tournament, so you know, good for them. But ouch.)
Scotland have done really well to get as far as they have, but I never expected them to compete at this stage. Having said that, these middle overs are ok - Leask has 37 off 22 - so they might give someone a scare somewhere along the line. I doubt it’s going to be today though.
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