# International Dopers: would you rather see Kerry or Bush as our next president?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 30, 2004, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767 "2004-09-30T00:43:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/21 "2004-09-30T09:00:17Z")

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Kerry.

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**Author:** ![marky33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@marky33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marky33)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/22 "2004-09-30T09:07:14Z")

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Here’s what the world thinks: http://www.betavote.com/. 87pc in favour of Kerry last time I looked.  
Anyone but Bush for me

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/23 "2004-09-30T09:38:08Z")

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> [@Kymodoce](#):
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> Who would you rather see as the British PM after the (probable) election next year?

BORIS!

And on the US Question - Bush. Kerry really is a giant waste of space (and he has “American Hair” - something I have come to recognise as a really really bad thing (see also very skinny wife).

Kerry terrifies me.

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**Author:** ![Xerxes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/d2c977/32.png) [@Xerxes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xerxes)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/24 "2004-09-30T10:04:41Z")

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Definitely Boris! The only politician in the cool-list (so said the papers yesterday, anyhow).

In the US? Kerry, definitely. Don’t know _that_ much about him, and I agree about the American hair, but I cannot in my worst nightmare imagine that he could possibly be any worse than Bush. That man scares the bejeesus out of me. [sub]And practically everyone I know.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/25 "2004-09-30T10:10:42Z")

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I’m a moderate, but I’d prefer to see Boris as PM than our current incumbent.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/26 "2004-09-30T10:15:18Z")

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I would pay twenty of Her Majesty’s Sterling Pounds to watch Boris address the UN.

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**Author:** ![Xerxes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/d2c977/32.png) [@Xerxes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xerxes)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/27 "2004-09-30T10:21:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I would pay twenty of Her Majesty’s Sterling Pounds to watch Boris address the UN.

And I’d match it. Christ, that would make for some funny TV.

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**Author:** ![Bimble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@Bimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimble)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/28 "2004-09-30T10:21:33Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> Kerry, definitely, since I’m not anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-environment, anti-international-relations or pro-war.

Likewise!!

From this international punter’s point-of-view, Bush is just SCAREY!!!

:eek:

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**Author:** ![gouda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@gouda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gouda)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/29 "2004-09-30T10:58:04Z")

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Anyone but Bush, and his administration too.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/30 "2004-09-30T10:59:25Z")

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You know, I haven’t decided yet.

And considering the fact that I’m also a U.S. citizen, and that I’m probably going to vote, it’s about time I made up my mind.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/31 "2004-09-30T11:02:29Z")

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I think Bush is dragging the US into the mud.

Guantanamo Bay, Iraq, Abu Graib…

Since Kerry is the alternative, we can only hope for him.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/32 "2004-09-30T11:04:07Z")

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**Bush** …or rather, anybody but Kerry.

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**Author:** ![Mops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mops/32/16494_2.png) [@Mops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mops)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/33 "2004-09-30T12:01:10Z")

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**Kerry** …or rather, anybody but Bush. A second Bush term would alienate the American _people_ from much of the rest of the world, on the grounds of “fool you once, shame on him - fool you twice…”

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**Author:** ![marky33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@marky33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marky33)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/34 "2004-09-30T12:06:21Z")

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> [@marky33](#):
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> Here’s what the world thinks: http://www.betavote.com/. 87pc in favour of Kerry last time I looked.  
> Anyone but Bush for me

Sorry, try this: [http://www.betavote.com/](http://www.betavote.com/)

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**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/35 "2004-09-30T22:42:00Z")

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> [@tschild](#):
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> **Kerry** …or rather, anybody but Bush. A second Bush term would alienate the American _people_ from much of the rest of the world, on the grounds of “fool you once, shame on him - fool you twice…”

“There’s an old saying in Tennessee – I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee – that says, fool me once, shame on – shame on you. Fool me – you can’t get fooled again.”

- George W. Bush

> **[Briefing Room | The White House](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/)**

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist.) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/36 "2004-09-30T22:55:14Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> Thanks, **Necro** , I was struggling with his name. I had a quick look, especially at his poll data, which shows him running at around 5% of the vote.

I’m highly suspicious of the polling data I found on the site **Necro Romancer** helpfully linked to. For starters, the poll was conducted among New Mexico adults. I assure you that that Libertarian candidate is not polling at anything like 5% nationally. I’m not sure Ralph Nader is even at that level anymore, and he has much higher name recognition.

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/37 "2004-09-30T23:34:29Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> … Kerry … reminds me of ex President Kennedy…

Really? Coz I don’t see that at all. He would probably be thrilled to hear it though.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/38 "2004-10-01T00:39:38Z")

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> [@owlstretchingtime](#):
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> BORIS!

I’m a liberal but I’d probably vote for Boris if he had a chance! Funniest conservative there has ever been and probably will ever be.

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**Author:** ![violacrane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c57346/32.png) [@violacrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/violacrane)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/39 "2004-10-01T01:18:02Z")

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I’m watching the first televised debate right now. They both strike me as something I can’t call them in this forum… what an uninspiring choice! However I’d have to go for Kerry on the anyone but Bush principle.

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**Author:** ![congodwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@congodwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/congodwarf)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-dopers-would-you-rather-see-kerry-or-bush-as-our-next-president/266767/40 "2004-10-01T01:33:41Z")

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As I’m not an international doper, I’ll not submit my opinion. I will, however submit a comment just made by my fiancee:  
“Remember the good old days when we had a candidate we actually wanted to  
vote for?”  
He’s got a point. Most of the people I know are voting for what they consider the better of two evils. In recent election years, no candidate has really stood out as the perfect future leader for our country.

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