# International Londope 2002

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 6, 2001, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804 "2001-11-06T16:16:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/181 "2002-05-07T12:15:51Z")

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Will the Kabbess be along? We really need to get her posting.

Crusoe, perhaps a quick detour to Monkeychews and a glass of absinthe is in order?

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/182 "2002-05-07T19:54:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Francesca \*  
> \*\ ***Crusoe** and anyone else who wants to hang out during the day on saturday - how about we meet under the giant clock at Waterloo Station at 1pm? Then we can grab a spot of lunch and decide what we want to do for the afternoon. \*\*

Through freakish coincidence, my first day on my own in London will be Saturday the 25th. I may be meeting a friend that evening so I’m not sure if I’ll be able to make the pub visit, but I will try to meet up with you all at Waterloo Station.

It’s funny, I never thought I’d meet any Dopers in person, and here I’ll be doing it for the first time on the other side of the ocean!

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/183 "2002-05-08T07:20:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*Will the Kabbess be along? We really need to get her posting.
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> Crusoe, perhaps a quick detour to Monkeychews and a glass of absinthe is in order? \*\*

Plenty of pubs around the way… having just returned from the Czech Republic though I may give my overtaxed absinthe-sodden liver a rest from that infernal spirit.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/184 "2002-05-08T09:44:53Z")

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**Twisty** we’re back on my home turf again now. Can I tempt you to follow **Crusoe’s** tasty suggestion? Lightly _piquant_ and eversodelicately spiced, you won’t go far wrong.

I can’t even persuade the **kabbess** to send an e-mail to her dear friend. Whilst I have done my best, an on-line message board seems to be a bridge _way_ too far. If it isn’t a home furnishings website, it has no place on her computer.

As for the 25th - she may be visiting family that weekend. We shall have to wait and see.

**Lamia** - please do try to make it. At this rate you will be representing the whole American continent. Or at least the part of it that still lives in America.

pan

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**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/185 "2002-05-10T08:01:22Z")

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I’m bumping this…  
_bump_

…to say that British Airways has an internet special running for NYC-London for $299.

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**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/186 "2002-05-12T11:49:27Z")

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_bump_ again  
Less than 2 weeks away!

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/187 "2002-05-12T13:07:31Z")

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_bump_ I’ll be there for chrissakes…

\*dustballs roll past the thread…

Well, Anahita will be there!! You have to come now!!

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**Author:** ![\_shaolin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/9de053/32.png) [@\_shaolin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_shaolin)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/188 "2002-05-12T20:48:42Z")

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Well, even though we really should be doing the Circle Line or Monopoly board pub crawl, this sounds like fun.

Also, I live near Alex B, and someone’s going to have to take him home (obviously Francesca gets first refusal).

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(nb: Take home as in guide him towards his house, rather than anything, um, less savoury ;))

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2002, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/189 "2002-05-12T22:04:04Z")

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Cool beans. **Shaolin** is actually the man who introduced me to the Straight Dope. You have him to thank or berate.

See you all at Waterloo or the Silver Moon… uhhh… Silver Cross (just kidding **Ianzin** ;))

Despite not doing a Circle Line pub crawl, I’m sure we could fit in a rousing game of Mornington Crescent while we’re there. I know we’ve got a few skilled players in our ranks. Gibberty Rules of course.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Alex\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_B)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/190 "2002-05-13T15:32:26Z")

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> **Shaolin** is actually the man who introduced me to the Straight Dope.

_I_ introduced you to the Straight Dope, you amnesiac bint.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Alex\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_B)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/191 "2002-05-13T15:39:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Shaolin** is actually the man who introduced me to the Straight Dope.

_I_ introduced you to the Straight Dope, you amnesiac bint.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Alex\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_B)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/192 "2002-05-13T15:47:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Shaolin** is actually the man who introduced me to the Straight Dope.

_I_ introduced you to the Straight Dope, you amnesiac bint.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Alex\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_B)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/193 "2002-05-13T15:51:53Z")

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Crap.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/194 "2002-05-13T15:54:12Z")

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You know, if I didn’t hate those “amusing band name” threads with a passion that could melt steel at a thousand feet, I’d suggest “Amnesiac Bint” as … no, I’m not going there.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/195 "2002-05-13T15:57:03Z")

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That’s what happens if you call me bint. I will now point and laugh.

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/196 "2002-05-13T19:19:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Francesca \*  
> \*\*I’m sure we could fit in a rousing game of Mornington Crescent while we’re there. I know we’ve got a few skilled players in our ranks. Gibberty Rules of course. \*\*

Er… sorry to point out the obvious, Francesca, but if we **do** play MC, then technically the Silver Cross will be regarded as the venue for the game, and since it is **north of the river** Gibberty Rules can **only** apply **if** an odd number of contestants have previously declared stumps [see Revised Canonical Rules, 93 edition, supplement section © Re ‘Game venue’].

A more troublesome technicality arises from the date. Since we are meeting on the 25th, which is not evenly divisible by 13, Gibberty Rules can obviously apply to motion East but not West (with the exception of Arnos Grove). However, if the game endures beyond midnight, hence the official ‘Date of Play’ becomes 26, this rule is of course reversed (with the exception of all the Actons).

Will we be allowing Fork Moves on lines West?

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/197 "2002-05-14T10:49:04Z")

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Only in the event of Venus being visible in the night sky, as dictated in St. Swithin’s Cononical, 1945.

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/198 "2002-05-14T21:35:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*Only in the event of Venus being visible in the night sky, as dictated in St. Swithin’s Cononical, 1945. \*\*

Oops… stupid me! Thanks **TwistOfFate** , you’re absolutely correct, of course. I should have remembered that. My only excuse is that for a while I did try the Harris Multi-Play version of the game, where of course the Key Rules (movement and direction) of the St. Swithin’s Canonical no longer applied (except for portions of the Metropolitan Line). Personally, I didn’t really like the Harris version much, and I’m glad it has more or less died out. Do you happen to know if Venus will be visible on the 25th? It would be nice, as then I can declare Stirrups on the opening round which I think makes for more exciting play.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/199 "2002-05-14T21:47:35Z")

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Indeed, declaring stirrups would make for an exciting game, but I find that style of play to truly be in the spirit of the game when advance notice of the declaration of Stirrups is given in conjunction with an abandonment of the Zone 3 stops until the at least one player reaches Elephant and Castle.

this was once led best used by Zoromir in his Castillian attack of the 1984 championchip.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-londope-2002/91804/200 "2002-05-14T21:55:45Z")

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I humbly request that at the pub, someone purchases a pint, names it **lno** , and has everyone’s picture taken with it.

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