# International Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 1, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553 "2010-12-01T16:47:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/721 "2010-12-28T22:23:42Z")
i don’t know what the hell time it is. folks traveling from across the globe to visit folks for the holidays and stuff has a tendency to do that, dontchaknow. but kind of what **ed** was saying earlier. i really think we can test **burby** rather easily. let him get a couple of more results and then string his ass to high heaven. but town in wellington seems to be wanting a walk off rather than a single that would extend it. whatdafugever. great game **sach**. now let’s hope that the teasips (hook 'em horns) can contribute a wee bit more. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/722 "2010-12-28T22:29:54Z")
A little music to help folks pass the time… [For Wellington](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8WTdL-jhY) [For London](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuxnZvlvOqw&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/723 "2010-12-28T22:51:23Z")
12-23-2010, 09:51 AM fluiddruid Inner Beauty Contest Runner-up Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: West Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 4,854 Re: howdy * * * Quote: Originally Posted by peekercpa Quote: Originally Posted by fluiddruid Quote: Originally Posted by peekercpa and i know that you are very busy. but what the hey. i am playing mafia in sach’s game. and there was some discussion about editing a post and sach advised me not to bother you. so i am bothering you. if there is any holiday cheer in you could you possibly post somethihg snarky or whatever you deem appropriate in the thread? i really like this forum and i do remember you from some mafia endeavors in the past. if you don’t have time or just don’t want to be bothered that’s cool as well. regardless, i hope you have a grand season for you and your loved ones. **fluid** Hey, sorry for the delay in response. I’m honestly not 100% sure what you’re asking for here? Could you clarify? **peek** something along the lines of peek is otay so sach can pound sand if he thinks that peek is bothering me. **fluid** Peeker, you’re fine, and you’re not bothering me by contacting me, but I honestly think this is a situation where you need to speak up on your own behalf. No offense, and have a good holiday. **peek** and as we wait. i thought i would post this from **fluid** merely because **sach** seemed to think i was being a pill. so what the hell. hey, **sach** nanny nanny boobah. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/724 "2010-12-28T22:57:45Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > but town in wellington seems to be wanting a walk off rather than a single that would extend it. whatdafugever. You mean we’re trying to hook a googly for a sixer instead of just taking a square cut to stop the rot? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/725 "2010-12-28T23:01:27Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > A little music to help folks pass the time… > [For Wellington](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8WTdL-jhY) > > [For London](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuxnZvlvOqw&feature=related) major appropriate. one piece of advice, however. nothing from the wizzard of oz. that’ll get your neck stretched quicker than it takes for current cereals to get soggy in their milk. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/726 "2010-12-28T23:06:13Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > one piece of advice, however. nothing from the wizzard of oz. that’ll get your neck stretched quicker than it takes for current cereals to get soggy in their milk. You sound like my wife (I’m probably going to regret having made \*that \*association…) How do you feel about The Sound of Music? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/727 "2010-12-28T23:07:47Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > You mean we’re trying to hook a googly for a sixer instead of just taking a square cut to stop the rot? well i was thinking more along the lines of trying to hook the hot platinum blonde with the perky boobs that is surrounded by about six washboard ab dudes as opposed to just taking the librarian who is a slam dunk. but yeh, about the same i guess. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/728 "2010-12-28T23:09:27Z")
OK, I’m heading home for the day. I’ll see ya all at Dawn! (I hope) ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/729 "2010-12-28T23:10:05Z")
neta: in no way is the previous comment meant to infer that our leading candidates are either platinum blondes or have perky boobs. although i have heard rumors about **ed**. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/730 "2010-12-29T02:15:53Z")
Sorry for the delay. As it happens I was traveling today. Transition up soon. As usual, London please don’t post until you know you aren’t dead. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/731 "2010-12-29T02:26:52Z")
T36:00 post# 612 Pleonast(1): [del]Normal Phase(620-648)[/del] peekercpa(624) [del]Normal Phase(679-680)[/del] Suburban Plankton(3): Idle Thoughts(627) [del]Mahaloth(631-687)[/del] [del]Normal Phase(648-679)[/del] Scuba\_Ben(654) special ed(701) NAF1138(0): [del]Scuba\_Ben(645-654)[/del] USCDiver(0): [del]Suburban Plankton(671-704)[/del] special ed(4): [del]ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies(675-676)[/del] ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies(678) Normal Phase(680) USCDiver(681) Suburban Plankton(704) Idle Thoughts(1): Mahaloth(688) An arrest warrant has been issued for special ed. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/732 "2010-12-29T02:29:49Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > As it happens I was traveling today. He’s a traveller! Kill him! ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/733 "2010-12-29T02:34:30Z")
T48:00 Tuesday 28 December 2010 London Day – Wellington Night In other news, **Rin Twisted** has been permanently removed from the game. No substitute volunteered for the role. Rin Twisted, Criminal and citizen of the United States of America, has been expunged from the game. The sun rises in London and sets in Wellington. **special ed, Criminal Investigator and citizen of Canada, has been arrested.** After being so close to being arrested twice, ShadowFacts prepared himself to fend off the angry mob for a third day, but he no longer needs to bother. **ShadowFacts, Vanilla Town and citizen of the United Kingdom, is dead.** The following Players are in London and are therefore able to post as well as vote: Drain Bead MentalGuy MHaye NAF1138 Romanic Wolverine You may vote for anyone alive in the game, but the arrest warrant issued will only be effective in London. The following Players have been arrested in London and are therefore not able to post or vote ever again: Baffle (Dual Citizen) Citizen of the United Kingdom and New Zealand Mrs McGinty (Dual Citizen) Citizen of the United Kingdom and New Zealand The following Players are dead in London: Astral Rejection, Rufus (Mason) Citizen of the United Kingdom ShadowFacts (Vanilla Town) Citizen of the United Kingdom The following Players are in Wellington and are therefore UNABLE to post or vote: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Mahaloth Normal Phase peekercpa Scuba\_Ben USCDiver Idle Thoughts Suburban Plankton Pleonast The following Players have been arrested in Wellington are are therefore not able to post or vote ever again: Natlaw (Criminal) Citizen of Russia special ed (Criminal Investigator) Citizen of Canada The following Players are dead in Wellington: CatInASuit (Vanilla Town) Citizen of the United Kingdom GuiriEnEspaña (Dual Citizen) Citizen of the United Kingdom and New Zealand The following Players are in Transit to Wellington and are therefore able to post but unable to vote: \ The following Players have lost: Rin Twisted (Criminal) Citizen of the United States of America London Day will end at 21:00 GMT Monday 3 January 2011. Wellington Night will end at 10:00AM NZDT Tuesday 4 December 2011. (Monday 4:00PM EST 3 January 2011) ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/734 "2010-12-29T02:45:38Z")
Well, whad’ya know! I’d say that was well worth waiting a couple hours for 🙂 C’mon Londoners…you’ve got some catching up to do… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/735 "2010-12-29T02:56:40Z")
mother of ogness. way to go kiwis. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/736 "2010-12-29T03:30:51Z")
Wow. And Rin was a criminal too? Wow. Just wow. Go for it, London! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/737 "2010-12-29T03:42:12Z")
Wow, I did **not** see that coming! Sorry I played so poorly this game, London Town - good luck the rest of the way. **GO TOWN!** ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/738 "2010-12-29T04:14:16Z")
I’ll come back when I have some more time, but Way to go Kiwis! 2 for 2! ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/739 "2010-12-29T06:56:57Z")
Some of my observations: 1. I might be naive, but I believe all of the Kiwi claimed power roles. With the information from Suburban Plankton, there should be no more scum in New Zealand. 2. Except for the possibility of Pleonast who was traveling. Town evidence: first to call out Rin Twisted, and while ultimately wrong, recognized Mrs McGinty’s complaints against Suburban Plankton were anti-town (vindicated by Plankton’s innocence). Scum evidence: led the charge in 2 town votes (Baffle, Mrs McGinty). My take is that Pleonast has to be careful but is ultimately Town. Perhaps if Plankton survives they can verify with their unique power. 3. Unless Plankton is scum and is only bluffing with their power. Should be verifiable if anyone dies. 4. By my count, scum in London 2, scum in New Zealand 0. Rysto - indicated as citizen of UK by Mahaloth MentalGuy MHaye NAF1138 Romanic Wolverine Which comes to my claim. I believe Mahaloth’s claim because I have the reverse role. From my PM. > [@](#): > > You are a Wellington Police Officer. > Citizenship: New Zealand > Win Condition: Arrest all members of the International Crime Ring > > During the Night you may investigate any player currently present in Wellington. Upon investigation you will receive the citizenship of your target. You know that all innocent players have a United Kingdom or New Zealand citizenship. You also know that anyone found with a citizenship other than United Kingdom or New Zealand is a member of the international crime ring. What you do not know is whether or not anyone with United Kingdom or New Zealand citizenship has joined the international crime ring. > > You are not eligible to travel. > > You begin the game in London, United Kingdom. The first night I investigated GuiriEnEspaña and received this: > [@](#): > > GuiriEnEspaña is a Citizen of the United Kingdom. > GuiriEnEspaña is a Citizen of New Zealand. Unfortunately, it did no good as they were subsequently killed. Last night I investigated Pleonast and received this: > [@](#): > > Pleonast is a Citizen of New Zealand. Which matches Pleonast’s earlier claim. If they were Godfather, it might come back as dual citizen or United Kingdom. So the probability Pleonast is Godfather and able to avoid investigation is about 33%. Since I believe that New Zealand is scum free, it is better to reveal my role now and eliminate me from consideration during the day. That should leave us to inspect 4 people in London with half of them scum. ---
**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/740 "2010-12-29T12:17:30Z")
Wow, Kiwis are just awesome. First I want to go back to Suburban’s claim and his criminal count in Wellington: > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > So, among the players who were present in Wellington last Night, there is exactly ONE SCUM. The players in question, are: > > ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies - Claimed Nocturnal Hacker > peekercpa - Claimed Mason > Idle Thoughts - Claimed Vanilla > Suburban Plankton - Claimed International Spy > GuiriEnEspaña > Mahaloth > Normal Phase > Scuba Ben > special ed > USCDiver So if there was only one criminal in Wellington, and it was Ed, then everyone else is a confirmed townie since Plankton confirmed that his ability would work as it should even if a Godfather is present. It does look like a very, very powerful ability in a game with two different pools of players because a result of 0 or 1 is very strong. It can potentially innocent a lot of players, which is what happened here with Ed’s lynch. I thought that this could be a ploy to make us believe that there’s no criminal left in Wellington, but I am discounting it for now. We can discuss it but I think it would be more of a distraction at this point, and Scum will have to forfeit their Wellington kill toDay if they want to keep the story alive. We’ll see about that. Anyway, I’m bringing this point first because I think that everyone who’s able to travel in Wellington should consider doing so immediately, since it’s very likely that you won’t have any good lynch tomorrow (and we might need you here in London). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553.md?page=38)