# Intolerant bitch sues college because tolerance is intolerant
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [April 12, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413 "2006-04-12T18:57:44Z")
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### Author:  [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/1 "2006-04-12T18:57:44Z")
[The LA Times](http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-na-christians10apr10,0,6596503.story?coll=la-home-headlines) is reporting that a woman at Georgia Tech is suing the school for not letting her practice her religion because the school has a tolerance policy. Which, since it bans hate speech, is intolerant of Christianity. :rolleyes:
Choice quites include:
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> By equating homosexuality with race, Baylor said, tolerance policies put conservative evangelicals in the same category as racists. He predicts the government will one day revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that preach homosexuality is sinful or that refuse to hire gays and lesbians.
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> “Think how marginalized racists are,” said Baylor, who directs the Christian Legal Society’s Center for Law and Religious Freedom. “If we don’t address this now, it will only get worse.”
You’re right, we do put you in the same catagory as racists, because you’re just as bad as them! And I hope it does get worse! I hope it gets so fucking bad, that someday we will look back on these times and pity you for being so ignorant and small minded. We’ll equate you to people who fought (and in some places, still fight) to keep slavery legal.
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> The students say denying them recognition — and its attendant benefits, such as funding — violates their free-speech rights and discriminates against their conservative theology
No one is violating any of your Gad-damn rights by refusing to recognize you as an official school club. The first amendment guarantees you the right to practice any religion and say anything you want (with a few legal exemptions.) No where does it guarantee you the right to have your right-wing, hate group recognized by a college and given money to promote your hate.
And then we have this little gem, courtesy of the woman is is actually filing the law suit.
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> She caused another stir with a letter to the gay activists who organized an event known as Coming Out Week in the fall of 2004…The letter referred to the campus gay rights group Pride Alliance as a “sex club … that can’t even manage to be tasteful.”…The letter berated students who come out publicly as gay, saying they subject others on campus to “a constant barrage of homosexuality.”
Yeah, that Pride Alliance, what a bunch of perverts. Everyone knows all they do in their meetings is have one giant orgy…I mean, right there in the Student Union meeting room! Won’t someone think of the children! :rolleyes:
A “constant barrage of homosexuality”? Yeah, I’m sure there’s no way to escape it. I’m sure you can’t just, oh I don’t know, not look and pay them any attention. Will you still see a “fag” walking to class with a rainbow flag on his backpack, or a banner claiming it’s ok to be “queer” strung up on a building? Yeah, I bet you will. Consider it payback for all the times they have to read your “God hates fags” and “Homosexuality is a sin” signs.
Here’s the kicker, though:
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> “If gays want to be tolerated, they should knock off the political propaganda”
Hypocritical, ignorant pot, meet kettle.
And for the record, I have no problems with Christianity. You can beleive what ever you want to believe. I do think that too many of them take _their_ interpretations of the bible too literally and make a bad image for those Christians that are tolerant and actually practice what they preach (love thy neighbor, etc…)
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/2 "2006-04-12T19:48:53Z")
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> By equating homosexuality with race, Baylor said, tolerance policies put conservative evangelicals in the same category as racists.
Which, when they preach bigotry, is pretty much exactly the category where they belong.
This tactic has been around for a while now. Jesus freaks claim that not being tolerant of their bigot shit is intolerance. Fuck them all.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/3 "2006-04-12T19:59:33Z")
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> The letter berated students who come out publicly as gay, saying they subject others on campus to “a constant barrage of homosexuality.”
In fairness, that’s only on Bukkake Thursday.
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### Author:  [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/4 "2006-04-12T20:06:10Z")
> [@Miller](#):
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> In fairness, that’s only on Bukkake Thursday.
Thanks for nearly making me snarf diet coke all over my keyboard, **Miller**.
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### Author:  [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/5 "2006-04-12T20:08:00Z")
> [@Miller](#):
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> In fairness, that’s only on Bukkake Thursday.
Oh, bad. I think you were the one who hates the messy monitor jokes, but I can’t help it.
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/6 "2006-04-12T20:08:55Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> Which, when they preach bigotry, is pretty much exactly the category where they belong.
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> This tactic has been around for a while now. Jesus freaks claim that not being tolerant of their bigot shit is intolerance. Fuck them all.
Or that pointing out that homophobia is no better than racism, you’re pretty much degrading everything the Civil Rights movement stood for, because of course, it’s okay to pick on homosexuals in the same way blacks were picked on. Because being gay is evil, while being black is not. Or something like that.
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### Author:  [@gooftroopag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gooftroopag)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/7 "2006-04-12T20:15:23Z")
Even more frightening is that she could win …
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> Christian groups at public colleges in other states have sued using similar arguments. Several of those lawsuits were settled out of court, with the groups prevailing.
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### Author:  [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/8 "2006-04-12T20:24:00Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Or that pointing out that homophobia is no better than racism, you’re pretty much degrading everything the Civil Rights movement stood for, because of course, it’s okay to pick on homosexuals in the same way blacks were picked on. Because being gay is evil, while being black is not. Or something like that.
To not like someone for the color they where born is wrong. (IMO) it is also wrong to not like someone for a lifestyle choice they made as long as it doesn’t adversely effect my life. Which homosexuality does not, but to equate the two (racism and disliking homosexuality) cannot be done, because one is a choice and the other is genetic.
And before anyone goes off on me, I researched this prior and unless something has changed, they have not found a “gene” that says gay. Now if that where to change then you can compare the two and group them in the same category. But until then it does not make sense. Although you can, like me, despise both groups equally. (both racists and homophobes)
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### Author:  [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/9 "2006-04-12T20:28:19Z")
> [@Miller](#):
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> In fairness, that’s only on Bukkake Thursday.
Awesome!
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### Author:  [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/10 "2006-04-12T20:31:28Z")
> [@Abbie Normal](#):
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> To not like someone for the color they where born is wrong. (IMO) it is also wrong to not like someone for a lifestyle choice they made as long as it doesn’t adversely effect my life. Which homosexuality does not, but to equate the two (racism and disliking homosexuality) cannot be done, because one is a choice and the other is genetic.
Last time I checked, religion is also a choice.
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/11 "2006-04-12T20:32:21Z")
> [@Abbie Normal](#):
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> To not like someone for the color they where born is wrong. (IMO) it is also wrong to not like someone for a lifestyle choice they made as long as it doesn’t adversely effect my life. Which homosexuality does not, but to equate the two (racism and disliking homosexuality) cannot be done, because one is a choice and the other is genetic.
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> And before anyone goes off on me, I researched this prior and unless something has changed, they have not found a “gene” that says gay. Now if that where to change then you can compare the two and group them in the same category. But until then it does not make sense. Although you can, like me, despise both groups equally. (both racists and homophobes)
Just because they haven’t found a gene doesn’t make homosexuality a choice. Most people I know that are gay said they did not choose it. But you’re right-even if it were a choice, it would still be wrong to discriminate, because it’s not hurting anyone.
But that makes sense. Homophobes usually wouldn’t know logic if it bit them in the ass.
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/12 "2006-04-12T20:33:24Z")
> [@Miller](#):
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> In fairness, that’s only on Bukkake Thursday.
…and I was going to go for a _Will & Grace_ joke.
So this is what it feels like to have someone take the lower road than me? Weird. I don’t think I much care for it.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/13 "2006-04-12T20:37:03Z")
It’s an up-and-coming argument I’m hearing from more and more paleoconservatives:
“If you liberals are so tolerant, and you value diversity so much, you should be tolerant of those who are intolerant too, and respect the diverse opinions of those whose viewpoints you see as abhorrent.”
Translation: “We conservatives certainly aren’t going to respect you and your opinions, but you had better respect us and our beliefs!”
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### Author:  [@Taran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taran)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/14 "2006-04-12T20:37:09Z")
**Abbie Normal** : Except that the absence of a “gay gene” doesn’t necessarily imply that homosexuality is chosen. For example, it could be a function of prenatal environment (especial abundance of a particular hormone, perhaps), which would mean that homosexuality is not genetic, but isn’t chosen either. In general, the _sociological_ research doesn’t support the idea that sexuality is chosen; fundamental, permanent shifts in sexuality are so rare as to be nonexistant. For instance, situational homosexuality in prisons has been found to be just that: when released, prisoners who’d been practicing heterosexuals before their incarceration reverted to heterosexuality, even though they’d been practicing homosexuals while in jail.
I know the “try and choose to be gay” and “think back to when you chose to be straight” bits are played out, but seriously, try the second experiment. Then, if you’re unconvinced, try the first one. I’ve done both, and it just doesn’t work. I’m straight, I can’t change that, and I don’t think things are any different for gay people.
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### Author:  [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/15 "2006-04-12T20:37:32Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Just because they haven’t found a gene doesn’t make homosexuality a choice. Most people I know that are gay said they did not choose it. But you’re right-even if it were a choice, it would still be wrong to discriminate, because it’s not hurting anyone.
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> But that makes sense. Homophobes usually wouldn’t know logic if it bit them in the ass.
\*\*Guin’s \*\* right, but I think maybe I see a bit ofagree with part of of \*\*Abbie Normal’s \*\* point, even if not the reasoning. It’s not “fair” to compare homosexuality and race if only because homosexuality can be hidden, and color can never be hidden.
I’m a little afraid to say this, since I’m afraid it’s going to somehow come out anti-gay. I don’t mean to be anti-gay at all, and homophobes are just as hateful and deserving of hate as racists. I am just trying to say that comparing them does neither one favors, really.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/16 "2006-04-12T20:38:58Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> This tactic has been around for a while now. Jesus freaks claim that not being tolerant of their bigot shit is intolerance. **Fuck them all.**
Typical homo response. It’s always sex, sex, sex with you!
😃
Err… what time was that orgy again?
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### Author:  [@Kaboom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaboom)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/17 "2006-04-12T20:39:57Z")
> [@Abbie Normal](#):
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> To not like someone for the color they where born is wrong. (IMO) it is also wrong to not like someone for a lifestyle choice they made as long as it doesn’t adversely effect my life. Which homosexuality does not, but to equate the two (racism and disliking homosexuality) cannot be done, because one is a choice and the other is genetic.
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> And before anyone goes off on me, I researched this prior and unless something has changed, they have not found a “gene” that says gay. Now if that where to change then you can compare the two and group them in the same category. But until then it does not make sense. Although you can, like me, despise both groups equally. (both racists and homophobes)
Do you really believe that people choose to be homosexual? I don’t think theres absolutely anything wrong with it but im just baffled by the thought that anyone could think people would consciously choose something that would bring them nothing but trouble. If it was a choice there would be no homosexuals.
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### Author:  [@Fat\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fat_Chance)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/18 "2006-04-12T20:40:48Z")
> [@Abbie Normal](#):
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> To not like someone for the color they where born is wrong. (IMO) it is also wrong to not like someone for a lifestyle choice they made as long as it doesn’t adversely effect my life. Which homosexuality does not, but to equate the two (racism and disliking homosexuality) cannot be done, because one is a choice and the other is genetic.
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> And before anyone goes off on me, I researched this prior and unless something has changed, they have not found a “gene” that says gay. Now if that where to change then you can compare the two and group them in the same category. But until then it does not make sense. Although you can, like me, despise both groups equally. (both racists and homophobes)
How old were you when you “decided” to be straight, rather then gay?
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### Author:  [@Fat\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fat_Chance)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/19 "2006-04-12T20:47:54Z")
And now I see that a bunch of people already said that (about the choice thing). My bad.
It just baffles me. I’m straight, and at no point in my life did I “choose” to be so. I just went from: “that little girl is cute,” to “that girl touched my arm,” to “hey look boobies!”, to a first nervous kiss, then, obviously, drunken 2 am bar rejections and porn.
Is it a choice to act on your sexual preference? Sure, but thats not what makes you straight or gay.
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### Author:  [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intolerant-bitch-sues-college-because-tolerance-is-intolerant/352413/20 "2006-04-12T20:50:52Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#):
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> Last time I checked, religion is also a choice.
Yep and that’s why even if I despised religion I would not lump them together with my despiseobox of racists. They would have there own section like the homophobes.
As for those saying it’s not a choice, I cannot disagree with you. Nor was my post meant to disagree with people, it is simply at this point in time it has to be seen as a choice until science can come to an understanding on why it’s not. Of course even if it is a choice, scientifically proven, it shouldn’t matter. As a free citizen in a free nation you should be allowed to participate in orgies, polygamy, homosexuality, nose picking, etc. Without someone telling you you’re doing wrong, it is your choice.
As I have stated in prior threads, I am not atheist, and choose to try to live my God’s word. But I do not tell you how to live and what to do, and you do not tell me. I love thy neighbor, no matter who they are. I do not pass judgements, that’s God’s job.
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