# Introduce us to a lesser-known band which nevertheless had a significant influence on music **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 15, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404 "2020-07-15T13:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/41 "2020-07-17T13:38:10Z")
The Monks inspired the garage rock movement. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oaoKMAZH0Sg/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGA8gZShcMA8=&rs=AOn4CLD9SifiDhtK1O1JSu2gxONXxIlhsQ "black monks time - 06 oh, how to do now - the monks") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaoKMAZH0Sg) Or maybe they didn’t, but I’m fond of their music anyway. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/42 "2020-07-17T13:41:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’ll take that as a no. Take it anyway you like. You’re the one refusing to answer a question first. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/43 "2020-07-17T13:42:49Z")
The Monks are definitely up there with The Sonics, Blues Magoos and 13th Floor Elevators as a massively influential garage band, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/44 "2020-07-17T13:47:31Z")
@Snowboarder_Bo, @MrDibble… isn’t there something like a quarry, or a pit, somewhere nearby? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/45 "2020-07-17T13:48:11Z")
It’s clear that you don’t know what the word singularly meant when you posted prior. You’ve prolly looked it up by now and are stalling because you know you were mistaken earlier. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/46 "2020-07-17T13:51:21Z")
Yes. My entire posting history is absolutely littered with me being absolutely clueless about common English words 🙄 And no, my earlier posts all stand , since they were made being fully aware of the meaning of the word. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/47 "2020-07-17T13:52:52Z")
**Bo** is happy to Pit me. He won’t, since he’s just clearly posturing rather than having an actual counter to the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/48 "2020-07-17T13:53:50Z")
Fine; we can do it this way: It’s clear that you didn’t know what the word singularly meant when you posted prior. You’ve prolly looked it up by now and are stalling because you know you were mistaken earlier. “Singularly” doesn’t mean “first”. It also doesn’t mean “only”. It means “[in a remarkable or noticeable way](https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/singularly)” or “[to an unusual degree](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/singularly)”. If you had known this, it seems unlikely that would blather on about who was first. And Black Sabbath was never a Satanic band and didn’t have Satanic lyrics. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/49 "2020-07-17T13:56:55Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The Monks are definitely up there with The Sonics, Blues Magoos and 13th Floor Elevators as a massively influential garage band, IMO. They also had a big influence in Germany on kraut rock bands. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/50 "2020-07-17T14:56:27Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > If you had known this, it seems unlikely that would blather on about who was first. This shouldn’t need explaining, but apparently it does: If others have done it first (not _just_ Black Sabbath, that was just the easy quip - plenty of rock bands had used occult imagery and references by that point. Fuck, the _Stones_ had.) then there’s absolutely nothing _surprising_ or _remarkable_ about a band in the same genre doing it years later. > [@](#): > > And Black Sabbath was never a Satanic band and didn’t have Satanic lyrics. Irrelevant. They were _seen_ that way. And other bands too. Hell, Page lived in Crowley’s house and owned an occult book store. (And spare me a tedious Hard Rock =/= Metal digression. Like the public cared.) Occult imagery was old pointed hat by the time Venom came around. Did they push the boundaries further? I wouldn’t know, I still haven’t looked them up. But would they be _noteworthy_ for doing so? Dude, it was _1978_. Please. Pushing boundaries was the new black. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/51 "2020-07-17T15:53:20Z")
This ain’t my forum, God knows. But if you two don’t stop the damn hijack right now I’ll bring the right people here and you’ll both regret it. Take it to the pit, drop it, or be sanctioned. Your call. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/52 "2020-07-18T03:53:22Z")
That like button would be good just about now. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/53 "2020-07-18T12:10:47Z")
> [@motu](#): > > Bix Beiderbecke, extremely talented and influential Jazz cornet player, probably more well known in musical circles than to the general public. One of the first “Live Fast, Die Young” musical talents of the 20th century. There used to be a Bix Beiderbecke festival in the Quad Cities (Rock Island Illinois area). Beiderbecke was greatly respected in the jazz community, for sure. I hope we can keep on with this interesting thread, now. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/54 "2020-07-18T16:45:41Z")
redacted because of Jonathan’s threat ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/55 "2020-07-18T16:53:30Z")
**Moderator Note** Fortunate, because I was just about to warn you for disobeying his instructions. While in normal times we usually stick to our own forums, we are extremely short handed at present, and we are having to keep an eye on things across forums. All mods have authority across all forums. You don’t get to ignore instructions just because they were issued by a mod from a different forum. Colibri ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/56 "2020-07-18T16:56:43Z")
I did not see Jonathan’s post until I had posted my reply; there was no ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/57 "2020-07-18T19:09:27Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I did not see Jonathan’s post until I had posted my reply; there was no ignore You also reported his post as improper moderation and suggested that you were not required to follow it. I wanted to make it clear although we have conventionally modded our own forums, moderators do have authority across forums. In fact, on the new board we don’t really have forum assignments; we all routinely see reports from all forums across the board. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/58 "2020-07-18T19:59:22Z")
I’m not sure why you felt that needed to be public knowledge but like you provided, my aim was clarification. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/59 "2020-07-18T20:03:32Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Dischord - formed by the two main guys in Minor Threat - influenced and released music by Government Issue, Rites of Spring, Grey Matter, Jawbox, Shudder to Think and even **Fugazi**. I would hope so since Ian Mackaye led both bands. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404/60 "2020-07-18T20:17:43Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > The Monks are definitely up there with The Sonics, Blues Magoos and 13th Floor Elevators as a massively influential garage band, IMO. > > They also had a big influence in Germany on kraut rock bands. I don’t know much about garage (and nothing of kraut rock - more on that in a minute). However, I did start trawling the [Pebbles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebbles_(series)) series of albums (a few of which comprise pretty much my knowledge of garage) to see if any of these three bands were included. (aside - the 13th Floor Elevators were the only one I had heard of.) I got about a dozen albums in without seeing any mention of the bands, so I took a look at the wiki page for the series - linked above - and was intrigued to find that [Pebbles 24](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebbles,_Volume_24) features German bands. What say, **EH** - is this the birth of kraut rock? > [@](#): > > The Ones featured [Edgar Froese](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Froese), who later founded the band [Tangerine Dream](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_Dream) j PS - you can find a lot of these albums on Youtube, but I couldn’t find 24. [Here’s 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiqcmNNafiE) as a frinstance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introduce-us-to-a-lesser-known-band-which-nevertheless-had-a-significant-influence-on-music/915404.md?page=4)