# Introducing the former Bruce Jenner **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 1, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361 "2015-06-01T17:26:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/21 "2015-06-01T18:16:46Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Cool for Jenner, I guess. Did he feel female when he was an Olympian? Or did this feeling develop over the 4 decades since? According to his own account, yes, this dates back to when he was an olympic athlete. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/22 "2015-06-01T18:17:00Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > What am I missing about the name Caitlyn? I’m in the UK, if that makes a difference. I’m in Canada and have no idea what this means either. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/23 "2015-06-01T18:17:52Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m in the US and I have zero idea. It’s just a female name. Not my preferred spelling, either. 🙂 I think it’s an age thing. It’s very trendy now, so you’re picking a name that most people associate with a child. But then, maybe (s)he feels newly born. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/24 "2015-06-01T18:19:42Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > I thought it was a photo of \*\*Janice Dickenson \*\*first, the former supermodel who is suing Bill Cosby… Oh yeah, Caitlyn, by the way, now you need to stay the hell away from Bill Cosby. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/25 "2015-06-01T18:23:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Don’t confuse local Fox affiliates with FoxNews. I have no idea whether Fox411 is a local affiliate or a program, but both the Fox 411 text and the FoxNews video refer to her as Bruce Jenner. The video refers to “Jenner dressed as a woman” (sic). ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/26 "2015-06-01T18:24:25Z")
Hey, I’d look pretty hot if I spent two hours in the makeup chair, too. Best of luck to her. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/27 "2015-06-01T18:25:00Z")
[Our Kaitlyn](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304199&highlight=Kaitlyn). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/28 "2015-06-01T18:28:09Z")
> [@MoonMoon](#): > > :rolleyes: Welcome to womanhood, Caitlyn, as you will see, the most important thing about a woman is whether random dudes find her attractive and worthy of boning. How crude of people to comment on the appearance of someone who chose to plaster their picture on the cover of _Vogue_!! ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/29 "2015-06-01T18:34:51Z")
_It’s a Vanity Fair…_ ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/30 "2015-06-01T18:37:49Z")
> [@MoonMoon](#): > > :rolleyes: Welcome to womanhood, Caitlyn, as you will see, the most important thing about a woman is whether random dudes find her attractive and worthy of boning. I suspect that as Bruce, who by all accounts has always been attracted to women and has had quite an active love life, this phenomenon is already well known. ETA: Good job on the surgery though. Jenner looks much better as a woman than I thought was going to be the case based on the Diane Sawyer interview. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/31 "2015-06-01T18:38:10Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > _It’s a Vanity Fair…_ Oh, may bad. Still the same comment, though. We’re not talking _The New England Journal of Medicine_ here. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/32 "2015-06-01T18:40:53Z")
She looks good! I’m getting a Jessica Lange vibe. I’m sure there’s photoshop, but I don’t know if it’s more than any other covers of Vanity Fair. > [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > That’s fucking horrifying. Why is it horrifying? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/33 "2015-06-01T18:44:49Z")
Amazing what Photoshop can do. Isn’t it? If anyone think he really looks like that I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. There’s been too many recent paparazzi photos that show the truth. ---
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/34 "2015-06-01T18:47:14Z")
If he/she has a sex life going forward, how will that work? From the amount of children and ex-wives in the picture, when Bruce was Bruce, he seemed to like sleeping with women. Now that Bruce is Caitlyn, will Caitlyn be a gay woman who sleeps with other women? Or will Caitlyn sleep with men? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/35 "2015-06-01T18:49:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > She looks good! I’m getting a Jessica Lange vibe. I’m sure there’s photoshop, but I don’t know if it’s more than any other covers of Vanity Fair. If you watch the video you see that the it’s not much of a stretch. Jenner actually looks pretty much like the cover photo in the video footage. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/36 "2015-06-01T19:13:48Z")
In the interest of truth. Here’s a recent photo. [http://www.celebrityxo.com/celebrities-xo/its-official-bruce-jenner-undergoes-sex-reassignment-surgery-now-legally-a-woman/](http://www.celebrityxo.com/celebrities-xo/its-official-bruce-jenner-undergoes-sex-reassignment-surgery-now-legally-a-woman/) Here he is a few weeks ago in the ABC interview. Much better lighting and professional makeup. But a far cry from that Photoshopped Vanity Fair cover photo. [![](https://i-d-images.vice.com/images/2015/05/31/untitled-article-1433062325-body-image-1433062604.jpg) ](https://i-d-images.vice.com/images/2015/05/31/untitled-article-1433062325-body-image-1433062604.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/37 "2015-06-01T19:22:01Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How crude of people to comment on the appearance of someone who chose to plaster their picture on the cover of _Vogue_!! > [@lieu](#): > > _It’s a Vanity Fair…_ It’s right there in the name! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/38 "2015-06-01T19:24:00Z")
> [@stillownedbysetters](#): > > If he/she has a sex life going forward, how will that work? From the amount of children and ex-wives in the picture, when Bruce was Bruce, he seemed to like sleeping with women. Now that Bruce is Caitlyn, will Caitlyn be a gay woman who sleeps with other women? Or will Caitlyn sleep with men? And having not undergone sexual reassignment surgery, what are the prospects for finding a woman who’s either gay but cool with sex with a woman who has testicles and a penis, or a woman who’s attracted to men but fine with a partner who looks like a woman and has boobs? Might be a moot point though. Jenner said in the Diane Sawyer interview that he’ll sort that out later and at the age of 65 sex isn’t on his mind that much anyway. I’m a bit dubious as to the latter though, because as Arnold Schwarzenegger once said: “Sex at 65 may not be the same as it was at 25, but it’s not over! It’s never over!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/39 "2015-06-01T19:30:03Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > In the interest of truth. Here’s a recent photo. > [http://www.celebrityxo.com/celebrities-xo/its-official-bruce-jenner-undergoes-sex-reassignment-surgery-now-legally-a-woman/](http://www.celebrityxo.com/celebrities-xo/its-official-bruce-jenner-undergoes-sex-reassignment-surgery-now-legally-a-woman/) > > Here he is a few weeks ago in the ABC interview. Much better lighting and professional makeup. But a far cry from that Photoshopped Vanity Fair cover photo. > [https://i-d-images.vice.com/images/2015/05/31/untitled-article-1433062325-body-image-1433062604.jpg](https://i-d-images.vice.com/images/2015/05/31/untitled-article-1433062325-body-image-1433062604.jpg) Ahh, that’s much more like what I was expecting him/her to look like. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361/40 "2015-06-01T19:30:16Z")
> [@stillownedbysetters](#): > > If he/she has a sex life going forward, how will that work? From the amount of children and ex-wives in the picture, when Bruce was Bruce, he seemed to like sleeping with women. Now that Bruce is Caitlyn, will Caitlyn be a gay woman who sleeps with other women? Or will Caitlyn sleep with men? Caitlyn will sleep with whomever she is attracted to that is mutually attracted to her. Just like how it works for non-trans people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/introducing-the-former-bruce-jenner/721361.md?page=3)