# Invisible Idiots

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 21, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968 "2003-03-21T02:14:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/1 "2003-03-21T02:14:05Z")

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In one of a series of short stories about a bar called Callahan’s, Spider Robinson introduced a type of puzzle he called Invisible Idiots, so named because of a story about a language-translation program that when fed the phrase “Out of sight, out of mind” returned “invisible idiot”. In this type of puzzle, the clues are separated by commas for parts of a word, and words are separated by semicolons. An example will clarify this:

incorrect, ancient; laser pistol = wrong, old; ray gun = Ronald Reagan.

So, here’s a few to start. Enjoy!

- dwelling, not him; whiny person, male heir
- baby cow, dried grass; fourth note, central Scotland river
- _chiroptera_ member, powered up; shade of red

Feel free to make up your own.

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**Author:** ![Osip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@Osip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osip)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/2 "2003-03-21T02:47:16Z")

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_dwelling, not him; whiny person, male heir_

Home, Her: Idunno, Son.

_baby cow, dried grass; fourth note, central Scotland river_

Calf, Idunno; G?, Not a clue

_chiroptera member, powered up; shade of red_

Chiro what?, on?, Crimson?

I no good at this game

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**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/3 "2003-03-21T02:52:59Z")

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Well, the first is “Homer Simpson”. As for the second, the fourth note is “fa”; did you mean the sixth note?

No clue about the third one.

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**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/4 "2003-03-21T03:01:45Z")

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Oh, wait! The third one’s “Baton Rouge”!

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/5 "2003-03-21T03:06:19Z")

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You’re on the right track with the second one, **Lindy**. Very good!

**Osip** you had the idea, you just had to put them together. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/6 "2003-03-21T03:06:27Z")

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whiny person = simper??

baby cow, dried grass; fourth note, central Scotland river

calf, hay (cafe) ; ??

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**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/7 "2003-03-21T03:07:32Z")

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2nd one’s Cafe Latte!! Yippeeeeee.

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**Author:** ![Elret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Elret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elret)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/8 "2003-03-21T03:08:50Z")

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The third one is Baton Rouge

- a cold symptom; consume food; auditory apparatus; third note
- relaxing resort; receive; hot brewed beverage; uses a sharp, toothed tool

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/9 "2003-03-21T03:16:44Z")

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- a cold symptom; consume food; auditory apparatus; third note

I’ll get back to you on that one

- relaxing resort; receive; hot brewed beverage; uses a sharp, toothed tool

Spaghetti sauce

BTW, you should have put it like this:

- relaxing resort, receive, hot brewed beverage; uses a sharp toothed tool

Leave out commas in adjective strings for clarity (screw grammar), separate clues that pertain to one word by commas, and separate whole words with semicolons.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/10 "2003-03-21T03:18:24Z")

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- a cold symptom; consume food; auditory apparatus; third note

coffee, tea or me.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/11 "2003-03-21T03:34:50Z")

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Band name!

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/12 "2003-03-21T03:41:23Z")

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- affirmative, bag; third king of Judah, grayish violet.

- bibation, monarch; hay

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**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/13 "2003-03-21T03:49:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \*  
> \*\*- bibation, monarch; hay \*\*

Drinking straw?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/14 "2003-03-21T03:56:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by LindyHopper \*  
> \*\*Drinking straw? \*\*

Ding ding ding! Give the lady/gentleman a cigar. Care to take a shot at the other one?

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**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/15 "2003-03-21T04:08:59Z")

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Well, I’ve got “Isaac”, but as I don’t know the third king of Judah, I’m stuck. Can someone else help?

Oh, and it’s “gentleman”, by the way. 🙂

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**Author:** ![peri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@peri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peri)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/16 "2003-03-21T04:14:59Z")

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affirmative, bag; third king of Judah, grayish violet

Isaac Asimov

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/17 "2003-03-21T04:19:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by peri \*  
> \*\*affirmative, bag; third king of Judah, grayish violet
> 
> Isaac Asimov \*\*

**Peri** , you’re good! The third king of Judah was Asa, for those wondering.

Anyone else want to post some?

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**Author:** ![sciguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@sciguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciguy)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/18 "2003-03-21T04:30:25Z")

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Ah, that would make Q.E.D’s first one “Isaac Asimov” (which on preview has already been noted).

Hmm, let’s see…

- kilted Celt ; sum up, retainers of resevoirs
- slang for joint ; double pirate exclamation; road usage payment, relative
- electric ear (short), propel a canoe, mushy; breeze, bucks’ mates

God, I’m such a geek… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/19 "2003-03-21T04:35:26Z")

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- electric ear (short), propel a canoe, mushy; breeze, bucks’ mates

Microsoft Windows.

Stumped me on the others, for now.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Mook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Mr.Mook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Mook)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/invisible-idiots/162968/20 "2003-03-21T04:42:08Z")

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- kilted Celt ; sum up, retainers of resevoirs

Macadam?

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