# Iowa lady runs over girl with car because the girl "Looked Mexican" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 22, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240 "2019-12-22T16:26:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shoujin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoujin/32/3884_2.png) [@Shoujin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoujin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/1 "2019-12-22T16:26:10Z")
[https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/woman-says-she-ran-over-girl-because-she-looked-mexican-according-to-police](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/woman-says-she-ran-over-girl-because-she-looked-mexican-according-to-police) I’m sure the girl had a stick or something, right? This woman makes me fucking sick. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/2 "2019-12-22T16:30:31Z")
Probably a nut case, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that the man in the White House stokes this sort of racial hatred. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/3 "2019-12-22T16:53:49Z")
This appears mainly a nutcase, but Trump’s rhetoric, his race baiting probably contributed to her dangerous mental state. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/4 "2019-12-22T16:58:00Z")
Another report about this story said that the driver was charged with DUI, but the chemical kind. I wonder what she was on. It’s certainly no justification in any case. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/5 "2019-12-22T17:24:51Z")
Sure. But somewhere a liberal was a bit condescending to a Republican, so … you know … both sides and all that. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/6 "2019-12-22T17:29:34Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Sure. But somewhere a liberal was a bit condescending to a Republican, so … you know … both sides and all that. Fair point, that is equivalent after all. If you think I’m serious, please take your sarcasm meter for a check up. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/7 "2019-12-22T17:39:15Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Probably a nut case, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that the man in the White House stokes this sort of racial hatred. NEW RECORD! FIRST REPLY! Yes it is all Trump’s fault. Trump = the new Godwinizer. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/8 "2019-12-22T17:40:05Z")
Already being discussed in the [SRIOTD](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22040519&postcount=43184) thread. She had apparently smoked meth about 5 hours before. I suspect that only released her inhibitions, but no doubt she will try to blame the drug and not her own attitudes. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/9 "2019-12-22T17:43:07Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > NEW RECORD! FIRST REPLY! > Yes it is all Trump’s fault. Trump = the new Godwinizer. It is actually in the article, so no you idiot, not applicable in this case. Excellent reading before knee-jerking. > [@](#): > > Joe Henry, president of Des Moines’ local chapter of the League of United Latin American Citizens Council, told the Des Moines Register he believed that President Donald Trump’s hardline policies and rhetoric against immigration played a role in the case. > > “I think this can all be tracked back to Trump,” Henry said. “People don’t just do this.” ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/10 "2019-12-22T18:31:22Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Probably a nut case, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that the man in the White House stokes this sort of racial hatred. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > This appears mainly a nutcase, but Trump’s rhetoric, his race baiting probably contributed to her dangerous mental state. > [@bobot](#): > > Another report about this story said that the driver was charged with DUI, but the chemical kind. I wonder what she was on. It’s certainly no justification in any case. Driving under the influence of Donald fucking Trump. (And meth.) We may need a new charge & abbreviation: DUIPOTUS. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/11 "2019-12-22T18:36:56Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I wonder what she was on. Unsurprisingly, meth, according to a different article. ETA: I see\*\* Morgyn\*\* got there first. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/12 "2019-12-22T18:53:33Z")
Apart from the hate crime enhancement, what would she be charged with? Assault with a deadly weapon and attempted murder? In non-hate-crime circumstances, would there be any reduction in charges or in sentencing, or the possibility of a not guilty verdict, due to the substance issue? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/13 "2019-12-22T19:16:58Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > NEW RECORD! FIRST REPLY! > Yes it is all Trump’s fault. Trump = the new Godwinizer. That happens when the President openly encouraged people to see Latino people as a threat, acting like a bunch of asylum seekers were going to take their houses and jobs. He pushed this in states nowhere near the border–like Iowa–when the refugees hadn’t even made it across Mexico. People don’t normally want to kill Mexicans, even if they are bigoted towards them. They may see them as inferior, but not as life threatening. But Trump has changed the rhetoric. You provided not argument but mockery. It is, as usual, unconvincing to any who don’t already agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/14 "2019-12-22T19:45:19Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That happens when the President openly encouraged people to see Latino people as a threat, acting like a bunch of asylum seekers were going to take their houses and jobs. He pushed this in states nowhere near the border–like Iowa–when the refugees hadn’t even made it across Mexico. > > People don’t normally want to kill Mexicans, even if they are bigoted towards them. They may see them as inferior, but not as life threatening. But Trump has changed the rhetoric. > > You provided not argument but mockery. It is, as usual, unconvincing to any who don’t already agree with you. If the President being a bigot causes you to run over someone you think is Mexican, you were already fucked up to begin with. You sound like the person who gives rapists a pass because porn exists and made them rape. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/15 "2019-12-22T19:50:17Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > It is actually in the article… But the article doesn’t reveal if the victim was really Mexican, so we don’t know if the claimed extenuating circumstance was valid. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/16 "2019-12-22T19:51:20Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > If the President being a bigot causes you to run over someone you think is Mexican, you were already fucked up to begin with. You sound like the person who gives rapists a pass because porn exists and made them rape. I think you’re onto something. Think about what you wrote for a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/17 "2019-12-22T19:52:52Z")
And when the President openly calls people who try to run over those he considers enemies “good people”. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/18 "2019-12-22T19:54:15Z")
I’m sure the lady was fucked up to begin with. And I don’t think anyone should–or is–giving her any kind of pass, morally speaking. She is responsible for her own actions, and ought to be held fully accountable for them. (Including the action of deciding to do meth, if that was a factor in what happened.) But I absolutely believe that having someone like Donald Trump as President of the United States shifts the Overton window on this sort of thing. Bigots become murderous bigots. People who were already a little prejudiced become full-blown bigots. People who were maybe just a little bit cranky become ethnically or religiously prejudiced. And so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/19 "2019-12-22T20:09:40Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > NEW RECORD! FIRST REPLY! > Yes it is all Trump’s fault. Trump = the new Godwinizer. Sorry, but it isn’t just us who think so. Damn those [pesky](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/)[facts](https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3102652). ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240/20 "2019-12-22T20:34:32Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > NEW RECORD! FIRST REPLY! > Yes it is all Trump’s fault. Trump = the new Godwinizer. Yeah, the ACTUAL Godwin guy said it was an acceptable comparison. Are you seriously denying Trump ran on hatred? Go on, make an argument for how he always tells the truth, too. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/R9YPYRaeTW0/maxresdefault.jpg "Unfiltered Voices From Donald Trump's Crowds | The New York Times") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9YPYRaeTW0) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iowa-lady-runs-over-girl-with-car-because-the-girl-looked-mexican/845240.md?page=2)