# iPhone 7 removal of headphone jack: hate it or love it **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273 "2016-09-07T15:22:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![iljitsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@iljitsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iljitsch)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/101 "2016-09-08T13:57:35Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Every time they’ve dropped a port or drive or changed protocols, they’ve done it abruptly and without regret. Actually when they removed Firewire from the first unibody MacBook they brought it back in the next model. There is a connector that has the potential to replace the 3.5 mm jack, but Apple of course didn’t choose to include it on the iPhone 7: USB-C. Many devices that have a 3.5 mm connector also have USB for charging. If you can replace those two with a single connector _that the entire industry will be moving towards_ that would be an improvement. In the long run, at least. But removing something that everyone uses with something proprietary that requires secret deals with Apple is a bad thing for consumers. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/102 "2016-09-08T14:21:26Z")
If they were worried about thickness, it would have been better to come out with a thinner version of the existing plug. Create 2mm plug or something. Something that still worked the same way so you could just attach simple adapters to your headphones. It would be the same thing as the 1/4" to 3.5mm adapters we see today but only smaller. Everyone could support them and all our existing headphones would work just fine. But with a Lightning©(TM Apple All Rights Reserved) plug, now there will be headphones which have a lightning adapter, which can only be used by Apple©(TM Apple All Rights Reserved) products or products which pay Apple©(TM Apple All Rights Reserved) a licensing fee. I hope this fails hard. It was so nice when most of the cell phones converted to USB power plugs and I didn’t have to have a unique charger for each cell phone. I don’t want to start seeing headphones being made for each type of cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![iljitsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@iljitsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iljitsch)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/103 "2016-09-08T14:35:29Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > one of the supposed benefits of using the lightning port is better sound quality No. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/104 "2016-09-08T15:41:58Z")
Earphones are annoying. I’m just impatient for body-implant earphones - I will be an early adopter, even if they have to run a cable down inside my neck. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/105 "2016-09-08T15:46:44Z")
I’m one of the few I guess who are okay with the change. I have never once used the jack on my current phone. I have no problems with BT headphones. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/106 "2016-09-08T16:52:15Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > the only thing it was “holding us back from” was giving Apple even more money. For what? The adaptor’s free in the box, as is a set of wired earbuds that work with the device. You don’t need to spend anything beyond the cost of the phone. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/107 "2016-09-08T17:17:36Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > For what? The adaptor’s free in the box, as is a set of wired earbuds that work with the device. You don’t need to spend anything beyond the cost of the phone. Very few people settle on one pair of headphones and one charging cable. They will be buying extras of both headphones and adapters and Apple will run up the licensing fees. I’m not so cynical to think that this is Apple’s only motive, but it’s dishonest to suggest that money isn’t a motive in replacing standard connectors with proprietary connectors. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/108 "2016-09-08T17:25:26Z")
I was originally enthused about this product due to its higher capacity. I wonder if removing the headphone jack allowed them to put more disk space in it. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/109 "2016-09-08T17:34:30Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I was originally enthused about this product due to its higher capacity. I wonder if removing the headphone jack allowed them to put more disk space in it. I doubt it. The memory in an iPhone is flash-based. The physical storage is the same no matter its memory capacity. I know that SD cards come in 256 Gb sizes and are physically identical to 8 or 16 Gb cards. iPhones don’t use SD cards, but it’s the same principle. The chip for the memory doesn’t have to be that big. ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/110 "2016-09-08T19:34:16Z")
Deal breaker is too strong a word for consumer electronics (in the end, it doesn’t matter that much, and I can weigh the convenience of all the options, including not having a phone at all, without hard requirements). But this is a huge negative for me. I use wired earpieces all the time, sometimes for many hours of walking, riding, etc. A wireless device that I have to remember to charge is annoying. And the stupid looking versions that Apple will be selling will likely be lost within a week. Also, I like using the earphones while charging. Luckily the choice is easy because the iPhone 7 looks pretty lame, and I don’t see any compelling reason to upgrade from my 6. In the past I’ve pretty regularly switched between iPhone and Android depending on what looked the most compelling at the time. This isn’t going to cause me to switch to Android when I have “keep my existing phone for longer” on the table. If I did want a new phone right now this would be a huge negative against Apple. Time will tell if that is still true years from now when I upgrade my phone. Maybe the lightning charging + earphone options available will be compelling enough to mute the downsides. I actually do hate the 3.5mm plug, and find it unreliable in general (although not specifically on my phone), but just dropping it in favor of lightning doesn’t meet my current use case. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/111 "2016-09-08T19:38:59Z")
I use earpieces almost never, so the switch is no big deal to me. I am of an age that I don’t need a 24/7 soundtrack for my life. My phone is for reading, a little light gaming, and…wait for it…phone calls. If I want to listen to music I’ll wait until I get home where there is a real stereo. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/112 "2016-09-08T19:41:50Z")
[Decent compatible buds and headphones are available](http://www.consumerreports.org/noise-canceling-headphones/great-pairs-of-wireless-headphones/), but they aren’t cheap. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/113 "2016-09-08T19:47:44Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > If they were worried about thickness, it would have been better to come out with a thinner version of the existing plug. Create 2mm plug or something. > … > I hope this fails hard. It was so nice when most of the cell phones converted to USB power plugs and I didn’t have to have a unique charger for each cell phone. I don’t want to start seeing headphones being made for each type of cell phone. 1. That would still create an “Apple does it different from Everyone Else” scenario. 2. At least it seems “Everyone Else” is going for USB3 so there will be cross-platform compatibility as long as you’re not on Apple And now that I think of it, what with moving away from the 3.5mm jack… … they’ll be discontinuing the remaining non-iOS iPods shortly, won’t they? Oy… ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/114 "2016-09-08T20:14:54Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > …But someday, we’ll view 3.5mm jacks in the same way we view RJ45 connectors on laptops. Thankfully laptop makers largely waited until WiFi was ubiquitous before dumping them en masse. > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Maybe, but 3.5mm jacks still offer advantages that are unlikely to be superseded anytime **soon**. > > Apple likes to make a big deal about getting rid of the optical drive before anybody else, but they did that long after broadband had drastically reduced their functionality for many customers. > > …edit: It’s also worth pointing out that ethernet ports on laptops are hardly obsolete. Just within certain classes of laptops. For the record, I love Apple products. I have been using Macs exclusively since 1986, and I get a lot a lot of mileage out of them (typically 8-10 years per desktop Mac, with interim upgrading of RAM and hard disks every couple of years). What I don’t love is Apple’s headlong rush to get rid of “obsolete” technology. For example, when I bought my Power Mac G4 in 2000, I was appalled that it didn’t come with a floppy drive, so I bought an aftermarket drive that I used for a few years. Apple was right to get rid of it, but should have kept it for a bit longer, IMHO. More recently, we were looking at laptops for my son. The current generation of MacBook Pro gets rid of the hard disk drive (so you get an SSD with half the storage capacity of an HDD for twice the price), along with dumping the ethernet port and the optical drive. Fortunately, they are still selling 2012 models that include all of this. I’m sure that SSDs are the way to go – eventually – but for now, they’re still much too expensive. The ethernet port is still indispensable if I want to work in an area with spotty or slow wifi (like the dining room of our house), plus it’s much faster – especially if you’re downloading a 6GB OS upgrade (which are no longer available on physical media). I’m sticking with my current 2008 Mac Pro for now because the current generation of Mac Pro is outrageously expensive, and so small that it’s not easily upgradeable…which is the only reason why I’d want one in the first place. With respect to the iPhone, I’m not seeing much of a reason to get an iPhone 7. I currently have an iPhone 5s and am due for an upgrade, but will probably pick up an iPhone 6s instead if I can get a good deal. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/115 "2016-09-08T20:24:38Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > I’m all for it. It’ll make my phone smaller and more durable, which is important for me, and it doesn’t hurt me to slowly replace my wired earbuds with wireless ones. Uh, no, it doesn’t. [The phones are the same size as their predecessors](http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-iphone-7-vs-iphone-6s-whats-different-1473298481). And the port is not a point of failure–they didn’t have to remove it to make the phone more durable. If so, then the Lightning Port would be just as big a problem. The fact that you use extremely cheap Bluetooth headsets shows you’re not even slightly an audiophile. The quality of those things suck. They are at best as good as $1 earphones. And, yes, $20 is a lot to lose–not that I’d be worried about people stealing it. You’re pushing a 2000% price increase. And of course people listen to music for more than 5 hours at a time, without being able to charge. It may not even be straight through. iPods already have a better life than that. Hell, my $30 Android phone can play music for about 35 hours if I turn off cellular data. And that’s still with Wi-fi on. It really seems to me that most of the arguments for the change are based on ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/116 "2016-09-08T21:31:19Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Uh, no, it doesn’t. [The phones are the same size as their predecessors](http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-iphone-7-vs-iphone-6s-whats-different-1473298481). And the port is not a point of failure–they didn’t have to remove it to make the phone more durable. If so, then the Lightning Port would be just as big a problem. > > The fact that you use extremely cheap Bluetooth headsets shows you’re not even slightly an audiophile. The quality of those things suck. They are at best as good as $1 earphones. And, yes, $20 is a lot to lose–not that I’d be worried about people stealing it. You’re pushing a 2000% price increase. > > And of course people listen to music for more than 5 hours at a time, without being able to charge. It may not even be straight through. iPods already have a better life than that. Hell, my $30 Android phone can play music for about 35 hours if I turn off cellular data. And that’s still with Wi-fi on. > > It really seems to me that most of the arguments for the change are based on ignorance. They are based on people having different priorities. For myself, I’ve never once used the jack. Maybe I’m not an “audiophile”, but I never noticed any lack using BT headphones. I have never in my life wanted to listen to music for 5 hours at a time on headphones. Presumably, removing the jack makes space that can be used for other stuff, given that the phone will be the same size as one with the jack. Since I don’t use the jack anyway, seems to me any other use is better from my perspective. The real issue, from Apple’s POV, is whether there are more iPhone customers like me, or more customers who are real audophiles who enjoy listening to music for extended periods of time on their iPhone. If there are more of the former, the bet on removing the jack was a good one. More of the latter, the bet was a bad one. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/117 "2016-09-08T21:52:08Z")
> [@Driver8](#): > > Luckily the choice is easy because the iPhone 7 looks pretty lame, and I don’t see any compelling reason to upgrade from my 6. If I were in your shoes and planning to stick with the Apple ecosystem a bit longer, I’d plan to grab a 6s/6s+ this fall. Last chance to get a upgraded iPhone with a headphone jack and the 6s does offer some compelling advantages over the 6. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/118 "2016-09-08T22:04:08Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I’m going to go out on a limb with this, but here goes. I think this will end in catastrophe for Apple that ultimately costs Tim Cook his job. > > In principle, I not a zealot about the 3.5mm jack and I’m not an audiophile. I just think this is going to be a major barrier for a lot of people who would typically have been automatic iPhone upgraders. Some of those people will still upgrade of course, but the market is going to react very badly when they see the decline year over year. Apple saw a 25%+ decline in sales with the 6s, the 7 is going to be even worse and the headphone jack will be the biggest reason for it (combined with the evolutionary, to be generous, design and lack of killer new features). Long story short, Apple has given their fans a legit reason NOT to upgrade while offering no real compelling reasons in favor of it. > > I was a long time iPhone holdout. I had an iPhone 3G and 4, and I really disliked it in a lot of ways. I missed my Blackberry and I hated iTunes (still do). The battery life was dismal and I used a Zune (!!!) for my daily music and podcasts. Eventually I switched to Android and then Windows Phone and back to Android. I loved Windows Phone, but just couldn’t tolerate the lack of apps and constant OS reboots, and Android was painful in a lot of ways. So, I’m back to a iPhone 6s+ and I’m pretty happy. I say this to hopefully inoculate myself from accusations of Apple-hater or Android fanboy. > > When I bought my 6S+ I planned to take advantage of the “iPhone as a Service” pricing and upgrade annually. But now, with this version, I’m very likely to skip that plan and wait and see what the iPhone 8 brings. It’s the headphone jack, and only that, that is holding me back. > > I really want to take advantage of the new camera with OIS (shameful that this 6S+ lacks such a basic feature) and the dual camera may be interesting. The dual speakers are super exciting to me, I rely heavily on speakerphone for work and had a HTC One with Boomsound which was revolutionary at the time. The waterproof design is nice and I’m always game for better battery and more power. The haptic home button is questionable, but not a blocker. I’m not a design snob, so I am not put off by the lack of a new design. So, again, I really would like to upgrade, but I won’t. > > Here’s why the headphone jack is so important to me. > > I’m not an audiophile but I do use headphones ALL THE TIME. I don’t buy many high-end headphones (though I do have a very expensive wired Bose set and another pricey wireless set) but I have almost a dozen cheap-to-midrange earbuds that I use close to daily. I treat ear buds the way I treat Lightning chargers. I keep them everywhere I might need them. > > I have a charger and ear buds by my bed so I can listen to music or watch videos before bed while charging my phone. The Lightning adapter and the Lightning Earpods both preclude this use case, which is very bad. > > I have ear buds in my laptop bag, in my desk, in my car console, by my keys and wallet and with my running stuff. I don’t typically carry ear buds with me, I just use the ones that happen to be where I am. If I’m running an errand I grab the ones in my car. If I’m heading to work I use the ones in my laptop bag. If I’m at my desk I use those. When I head to run or to the gym, I use my running set that are super secure or my wireless set. There’s simply no way I’m going to buy Lightning headphones or wireless headphones for this use case, just too expensive and with little to no benefit. > > Wireless headphones have their place, I own a set, but they only last for 8 hours and constantly need to be charged. Constant charging is OK for the phone, it goes with me everywhere and I have chargers everywhere, but not so much for the headphones. I can charge and use my phone at the same time, you can’t do that with headphones. I really don’t want to be carrying a wireless set of headphones around everywhere I go, they’ll get lost, broken and will always be dead at the end of the day. I can’t be the only person who operates this way. > > My girlfriend is super slow to adopt new technology and she always forgets to charge her phone. No way she would charge headphones too, and a set of dead wireless headphones on the train in the morning will be rage inducing. That’s another persona this will exclude. > > Apple’s plan to soften the blow and usher people to the next generation is going to suck, hard. The Lightning adapter will make pocketing your phone while listening almost impossible. It will create a lot of broken Lightning ports. They will get lost constantly. Anyone remember the days of dongles? That sucked. > > And don’t get me started on these “AirPods”. What a dismal design and idea. First, Apple’s Earpods have a unique design that simply doesn’t work for a lot people. Neither me or my GF can use them because we don’t have the right shape of ears to hold them anything close to in position. The problem…they fall out constantly, but at least you have a cord to catch them by. Not with these AirPods…one careless move and they are gone to the road, the gutter, the sidewalk, the bottom of the train, a storm grate, that puddle, the mud, the grass, the sand on the beach, etc… People will jump ship when they are buying their 3rd, 4th and 5th pair of these. > > So…I rest my case. Start selling and shorting your Apple stock now folks. It’s gonna be a blood bath. Let me guess… You are long on Apple, right? If history is any indication, this, like every change that Apple makes, will cause a lot of grousing by people who have no skin in game, but will ultimately become the “new normal.” As reference, I give you: Dropping ADB for USB. Eliminating the floppy drive. Switching from 6800 to PPC to intel. Switching from the 30-pin connector to Lightning (oy, the screams of anguish on that one!). Dropping optical drives on laptops. Dropping Firewire. etc… ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/119 "2016-09-08T22:58:19Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > Then use Android. It’s not like there’s only one phone maker out there. > > Most folks love that “walled garden,” because the malware is on the other side of the wall. It’s a major selling point for Apple. [This](http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/01/pegasus-ios-malware-package-also-found-to-impact-os-x-apple-issues-patch) [is](http://www.computerworld.com/article/2989037/malware-vulnerabilities/iphone-malware-yispecter-apple-app-store-itbwcw.html) [false](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34338362) Apple does a walled garden because it protects their pocket book. Slee ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273/120 "2016-09-08T23:19:15Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > [This](http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/01/pegasus-ios-malware-package-also-found-to-impact-os-x-apple-issues-patch) [is](http://www.computerworld.com/article/2989037/malware-vulnerabilities/iphone-malware-yispecter-apple-app-store-itbwcw.html) [false](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34338362) > > Apple does a walled garden because it protects their pocket book. > > Slee Just because something is not perfect, that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t work. > [@](#): > > Top 20 malicious mobile programs > > Please note that the ranking of malicious programs below does not include potentially unwanted programs such as RiskTool or AdWare. > > ```auto > > Top 20 malicious mobile programs > > Please note that the ranking of malicious programs below does not include potentially unwanted programs such as RiskTool or AdWare. > > Name % of all attacked users* > 1 DangerousObject.Multi.Generic 44.2 > 2 Trojan-SMS.AndroidOS.Podec.a 11.2 > 3 Trojan-Downloader.AndroidOS.Leech.a 8.0 > 4 Trojan.AndroidOS.Ztorg.a 7.6 > 5 Trojan.AndroidOS.Rootnik.d 6.9 > 6 Exploit.AndroidOS.Lotoor.be 6.1 > 7 Trojan-SMS.AndroidOS.OpFake.a 5.6 > 8 Trojan-Spy.AndroidOS.Agent.el 4.0 > 9 Trojan.AndroidOS.Guerrilla.a 3.7 > 10 Trojan.AndroidOS.Mobtes.b 3.6 > 11 Trojan-Dropper.AndroidOS.Gorpo.a 3.6 > 12 Trojan.AndroidOS.Rootnik.a 3.5 > 13 Trojan.AndroidOS.Fadeb.a 3.2 > 14 Trojan.AndroidOS.Ztorg.pac 2.8 > 15 Backdoor.AndroidOS.Obad.f 2.7 > 16 Backdoor.AndroidOS.Ztorg.c 2.2 > 17 Exploit.AndroidOS.Lotoor.a 2.2 > 18 Backdoor.AndroidOS.Ztorg.a 2.0 > 19 Trojan-Ransom.AndroidOS.Small.o 1.9 > 20 Trojan.AndroidOS.Guerrilla.b 1.8 > > ``` From here: [https://securelist.com/analysis/kaspersky-security-bulletin/73839/mobile-malware-evolution-2015/](https://securelist.com/analysis/kaspersky-security-bulletin/73839/mobile-malware-evolution-2015/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iphone-7-removal-of-headphone-jack-hate-it-or-love-it/765273.md?page=7)