# IQ difference and jokes. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 27, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053 "2010-03-27T20:58:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/121 "2010-04-02T00:36:11Z")
As it may be pertinent to this op, what _is_ the appeal to joining Mensa? And an old bad joke to play - You: "I hear there’s a newsletter for those with IQ’s more than two standard deviations below the mean. [pause] It’s called Densa! … Get it? Victim: “Yeah, I get it.” You: “Really? I didn’t know your IQ was that low!” **Malleus …** , your post didn’t qualify as the sort of behavior I was talking about. I do find what happened to you interesting though. A bright kid with a documentable high IQ who was labeled as special ed. Now a bright child not fitting in and getting teased by other kids, that I am familiar with, but the system labeling him/her as special ed … were you very uneven in your scores? Some kids who are overall well above average and very high in particular subtests have problems if there is a large discrepency between subtest abilities, even if the lowest is still average or above. Those kids often need services but it is often hard to get the school to pony them up. ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/122 "2010-04-02T03:00:40Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > As it may be pertinent to this op, what _is_ the appeal to joining Mensa? As I understand it, basically it serves as a social club, under the theory that the commonality of high IQ makes it more likely that the members will interact positively than other common qualities would. In other words, it’s based on the same theory that this whole thread is about; if a 30-point IQ difference makes it difficult for two people to interact with each other, then someone with a 150 IQ is likely to be pretty isolated in ordinary life. But when they go hang out with the Mensa crowd, they would find a much higher proportion of people who they can relate to. I’ve been to a Mensa convention once (as a guest of a member–although I do qualify, I’ve never been a member myself), and everyone did seem to be having a great time. But that’s true of other types of conventions I’ve been at as well. I have to think that people who don’t have a good time at Mensa conventions don’t join Mensa, or at least don’t attend the conventions. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/123 "2010-04-02T13:24:22Z")
> [@Turble](#): > > No. You’re probably thinking of “Solaris” by Stanislaw Lem. Stanislaw Lec wrote “Unkempt Thoughts”. Whoosh. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/124 "2010-04-02T14:45:24Z")
> [@SCSimmons](#): > > As I understand it, basically it serves as a social club, under the theory that the commonality of high IQ makes it more likely that the members will interact positively than other common qualities would. In other words, it’s based on the same theory that this whole thread is about; if a 30-point IQ difference makes it difficult for two people to interact with each other, then someone with a 150 IQ is likely to be pretty isolated in ordinary life. But when they go hang out with the Mensa crowd, they would find a much higher proportion of people who they can relate to. Exactly why I asked the question. The existence of Mensa, the fact that some people feel they socialize better with those closer to their IQ range than those significantly away, supports the contention made in the op. OTOH over five and half million Americans qualify for Mensa (conservatively, as you only need to be in the top 2% on any one of the qualifying tests, and more than 2% will score in the top 2% on one of them if several are taken) and of those five and a half million 99 out of a 100 _don’t_ join Mensa. Any Chicago area Mensa members here? Checking [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa_International)for the size of Mensa in America I found this > [@](#): > > smaller gatherings called Regional Gatherings (RGs) held in various cities that attract members from large areas; the largest is held annually in Chicago around Halloween, and features a costume ball and a joke-telling competition. Anyone here heard one of those joke-telling competitions? Are those jokes different than other jokes? I did find [this](http://tampabay.momslikeme.com/members/JournalActions.aspx?g=247182&m=2690693&grpcat=) put up as a Mensan joke: > [@](#): > > "A guy walked into a bar with a lizard sitting on his shoulder. He said to the bartender, “A double whiskey for me and,” pointing to the lizard, “a half pint of Guiness for Tiny here.” > > “Why do you call him Tiny?” asked the bartender. > > "Obviously, " the man answered, “because he’s my newt.” and see the point. It reassured me that I don’t have to worry about having too high of an IQ too, as it took me a second to get it. Of course reading it quickly doesn’t work as well as saying it out loud. And I do like the poster’s comment about the joke: > [@](#): > > (If you laughed (or winced) on your first read-through of this joke, you belong in Mensa. If you noted that a newt is an amphibian and not a lizard, you should really consider joining today.) And [this](http://www-personal.umich.edu/~froomkin/texts/775.html) > [@](#): > > Rene Descartes walks into a bar, see. He orders a glass of wine and drinks it. The bartender says, “Would you like another?” Descartes replies, “I think not.” And he disappears. > That was a Mensa joke. > Mensans, you see, are very bright. They would know that Descartes was a French philosopher and mathematician known for his statement: “I think, therefore I am.” Get it? > If you are still scratching your head over this one, you are the reason there is a Mensa. > About 1,500 members of Mensa, a national group for people who can show they are smarter than 98 percent of the general population, are gathered at the Anaheim Marriott for a five-day convention that ends Sunday. > Most Mensans say they join the group because people in it understand their jokes. > Take Walt Patrick, a farmer from rural Washington who was carrying around a baby goat he brought to Anaheim for the Mensa auction. He says “gifted kid” and his fellow Mensans double up in laughter. > Mensans fight the notion that they are elitist eggheads. > “It’s a social group,” said Signe Belden, a Mensan dentist from Tustin. “We don’t get together and talk about nuclear physics every week.” > And indeed, for every seminar on quantum mechanics at the convention, there are two better-attended ones on topics such as channeling, making balloon animals and sexual bondage. > For instance, when Mensans said they were headed to Thursday’s Chekhov seminar, they didn’t mean the playwright. They meant Walter Koenig, the guy who played Ensign Chekhov on “Star Trek.” > “Those of the highly intelligent who are able to deal with society do so,” said Russ Bakke, a Mensa officer. “And the rest of us join Mensa.” Okay, I liked the Descartes joke. And glad he didn’t start of with an equine joke ahead of it. (Yeah, you can’t put the horse ahead of Decartes.) And also pertinent is [this program guide](http://colloq07.us.mensa.org/Sites/colloquium2007/NavigationMenu/Program/Speakers/Speakers.htm) from a 2007 Chicago area Mensa program which included this lecture: > [@](#): > > Joking Cultures: How Groups—Even Mensa—Develop a Humor Identity > > Every social group develops, over time, a joking culture: a set of humorous references to which members can refer that serve as the basis of further interaction. Joking, thus, has a historical, retrospective, and reflexive character. Group joking is embedded, interactive, and referential. These features give it power within the group context. Elements of the joking culture serve to smooth group interaction, share affiliation, separate the group from outsiders, and secure the compliance of group members through social control. And that whoosh whooshed by me. Can someone spell it out? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/125 "2010-04-02T15:20:34Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > Sister Vigilante writes: > > \> My friends all think I’m hilarious with a very dry sense of humor, and that I’m > \> often very serious but when I let one fly it brings down the house. My IQ is 160 > \> or thereabouts, Mensa tells me I’m in the top 1% of the population. > \> > \> Only two of my friends shared any classes with me, and one of them had an IQ > \> higher than mine by around 5 points (the class we shared was one specifically > \> for the smartest kids in school and of course we all took an IQ test). The rest > \> were in the mid-level classes. > > Excuse me for doubting your story, but this doesn’t add up. An I.Q. of 160 or higher is quite rare. Only one person in about 31,000 has an I.Q. of 160 or higher. Someone measuring your I.Q. as 160 and telling you that you’re in the top 1% doesn’t make any sense. Your I.Q., if it’s really 160, is much rarer than the top 1%. It makes even less sense that there are two people in a single class (I assume that this means just that the two of you are the same age and the same high school, not that you were always in the same classes in high school) with an I.Q. that high, since that would be far rarer. > > Indeed, it makes no sense that your friend has a measured I.Q. of 165 if this came from a test given at your high school. Standard I.Q. tests top out at 160. It doesn’t matter how smart you are, they can say nothing more than that your I.Q. is 160 or greater. There are very dubious tests created by high-I.Q. societies that claim to measure higher I.Q.'s and occasionally a psychologist will after doing some tests make the claim that someone he tests has a higher I.Q., but those tests and claims are really not to be trusted. A standard I.Q. test never gives a score higher than 160. > > I’m sorry for being so skeptical, but this happens too often here. Far too many people post with claims of high I.Q.'s. If this message board had people as smart as they claim to be, we would have an average I.Q. higher than the average of all Nobel Prize winners. Sorry, missed this. The highest in the class got over 170. I don’t know if the teacher did anything weird with the scores. I was 14 at the time and didn’t really question it. But I believe that there is more than one IQ test and they are measured differently. The test that got me in Mensa years later, I scored 145 or so. I wasn’t trying to brag with my score, I think a high IQ is pretty useless and having a high score didn’t really get me anywhere in life. And I was in Mensa for a year, never attended a meeting, thought that was pretty useless and also a waste of money. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/126 "2010-04-02T17:11:56Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Is he the guy who wrote Colaris? No, I think he was the guy who wrote Catman. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/127 "2010-04-02T17:27:03Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > And that whoosh whooshed by me. Can someone spell it out? Thanks. R-I-O ---
**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/128 "2010-04-02T18:38:56Z")
Don’t know if they do this in other places but at the Mensa meetings I went to years ago in Las Vegas they sometimes played a game called Count. The rules were simple; at any time anyone could call out “Count.” and everybody had to honestly tell how many people in the room they had been to bed with. There was one very large woman who, when somebody was there with a spouse / parter, would wait for their answer and then shout out “What about me, you son of a bitch!” Now that’s a high IQ joke. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/129 "2010-04-02T18:58:00Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > **Malleus …** , your post didn’t qualify as the sort of behavior I was talking about. I do find what happened to you interesting though. A bright kid with a documentable high IQ who was labeled as special ed. Now a bright child not fitting in and getting teased by other kids, that I am familiar with, but the system labeling him/her as special ed … were you very uneven in your scores? Some kids who are overall well above average and very high in particular subtests have problems if there is a large discrepency between subtest abilities, even if the lowest is still average or above. Those kids often need services but it is often hard to get the school to pony them up. I’m not intellectually disabled, as far as I can tell (although I recently found out that I probably have dyscalculia). I was in special ed for emotional/social reasons. I have mild Asperger’s syndrome. I needed small classes, special attention, and teachers who wouldn’t freak out when I broke down into tears. I still tend to freak out when something scary or unusual or upsetting happens- my first year at college, people used to call the security guards. I also miss instructions and have trouble not blurting out things in class. (That’s another reason I have smartness self-esteem problems. When I have trouble controlling myself, I hate myself for being immature, which equals stupid). ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/130 "2010-04-02T19:01:13Z")
> [@](#): > > (If you laughed (or winced) on your first read-through of this joke, you belong in Mensa. If you noted that a newt is an amphibian and not a lizard, you should really consider joining today.) I don’t get the joke, but my first thought was “Newts aren’t lizards!” Where does that leave me? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/131 "2010-04-02T19:03:20Z")
> [@Turble](#): > > Don’t know if they do this in other places but at the Mensa meetings I went to years ago in Las Vegas they sometimes played a game called Count. The rules were simple; at any time anyone could call out “Count.” and everybody had to honestly tell how many people in the room they had been to bed with. > > There was one very large woman who, when somebody was there with a spouse / parter, would wait for their answer and then shout out “What about me, you son of a bitch!” Now that’s a high IQ joke. Could you explain to us non-Mensa types how this is a high IQ joke? I get the joke (or at least think I do) but I don’t get how that wouldn’t work for non-genius folks. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/132 "2010-04-02T19:15:40Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > No, I think he was the guy who wrote Catman. Oh, Cob Bane. I think I saw that in the bolour supplement. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/133 "2010-04-02T19:36:23Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Oh, Cob Bane. I think I saw that in the bolour supplement. Kurt Cob Bane, I remember him from Nirvana. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/134 "2010-04-02T20:50:58Z")
> [@Turble](#): > > Reading this thread, the thought occurred to me that people in the high-normal range, around 120 or so (typical of very successful people in fields other than science), have no trouble realizing that they are quite bit smarter than those 30 points lower … but they don’t seem to grasp that the difference between themselves and those in the 150+ range is the same. That’s because they really aren’t that dramatically different. First off, IQ is a pretty meaningless measure of anything, and swings of 10+ points on retakes of the WAIS-IV are fairly common. Secondly, we don’t yet even have a good definition of intelligence. Spacial perception and manipulation are part of the tests for both intelligence and IQ, but don’t necessarily correlate with IQ. Add this to continuing mental growth, educational differences, and the multitude of other factors, and you are basically measuring the subject’s performance on a certain test. We can make broad generalizations about someone’s predicted performance in other tasks, but the number itself is unreliable at best, and probably doesn’t mean very much. (And I’m not even going to go into the normality of the distribution, because it isn’t perfectly normal, though the tests are calibrated to make it appear that way.) Finally, a person with an IQ of 70 would have some substantial difficulty in a lot of life situations. Moving up a couple of standard devs from there and a person has a lot less trouble. But what is the difference between someone at 130 and at 160? They both will have adequate life skills. Mathematical performance isn’t linear with intelligence, nor are vocabulary and other language skills. You also can’t count on things like “discovered relativity”, because a lot of that supposed intelligence is a social construct. When you talk to someone who is actually retarded, you’re going to know right off the bat, whereas you aren’t going to get that same effect with someone who is at 150 or whatever, nor would I wager that some supergenius is going to think everyone else is intolerably slow and realize it immediately. There are very few ways to demonstrate a supposed genius level of intelligence as compared to a merely better than average one, and that is even given the mistaken assumption that intelligence is linear, meaningful, and determinable. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/135 "2010-04-02T22:46:07Z")
**Malleus** , thank you for the additional information. Asperger’s actually was what I was suspicious of from your description as those with Asperger’s syndrome are notably uneven in their skill sets, and would sometimes at least get services because of their social issues even if the uneveness of their other skill sets was not recognized or addressed. Your not understanding the joke yet immediately keying in on the concrete fact that a newt is not a lizard [also fits](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12908828?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_SingleItemSupl.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed) that label. You very likely have a great strength in remembering details and lists of facts and specific cases and likely had more trouble on essay questions that asked you to compare and contrast different circumstances. The fact is that many with Asperger Syndrome, even those of very high overall IQ, do not get the jokes that others do; they often also have difficulty telling when someone is joking and when a joke is good-natured versus one at their expense. It can cause painful misunderstandings and many with the syndrome get very anxious in social situations. Having comorbid dyscalculia is plain unfair. Dysclaculia usually affects more than just math classes: individuals with dyscalculia may have problems with direction, with reading clocks well, and even checking change. Together those two issues may make it very hard for you to show the world how smart you are. And that can be very frustrating indeed. Are you in college still or in the working world? BTW, the joke hinges on the fact that “my newt” sounds very similar to the word “minute” (as in very small, not the unit of time). ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/136 "2010-04-02T22:54:22Z")
> [@yoyodyne](#): > > R-I-O Still whooshed. But I guess ignorant I will remain. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/137 "2010-04-02T23:04:49Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > … nor would I wager that some supergenius is going to think everyone else is intolerably slow and realize it immediately. There is a lot else to disagree with of what you said, but this statement is most pertinent to the discussion at hand. “Intolerably slow” was not the point posited. The claim made was that someone who has an IQ of 150 can, during the course of a reasonable interaction, relatively easily tell whether or not they are talking to someone with an IQ if 120 or below vs someone with an IQ as high as theirs or higher. They may tolerate them and even enjoy their company but someone 150 or above was talking to them instead they would notice the difference. And they would be able to say with some confidence that the person whose IQ was 120 and claimed that their IQ was 150 was just shitting. The person who is 120 may not notice the difference between someone else who is 120 and someone who is 150 however. I do not know if it is true, but I’d suspect so. ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/138 "2010-04-02T23:14:56Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Indeed. I know nothing of Georgia universities, but for me the joke fails because its premise hinges on something wholly implausible, i.e. an ATM that asks people what schools they went to. That just derails the joke long before one can get close to a punchline. > > “So, the other day I was getting a blowjob from my alarm clock and-” > “Wait… what? You have an alarm clock that gives blowjobs?” > “Well, not really, but just pretend I-” > “That’s stupid.” Do you find that most jokes fail for you? “A horse walks into a bar. The bartender says to the horse-” “Wait… what? There are establishments which serve alcohol to horses? Why would the bartender speak to the horse? There are horses which understand English?” “Well, not really, but just pretend-” “That’s stupid.” ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/139 "2010-04-02T23:29:11Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > There is a lot else to disagree with of what you said, but this statement is most pertinent to the discussion at hand. “Intolerably slow” was not the point posited. The claim made was that someone who has an IQ of 150 can, during the course of a reasonable interaction, relatively easily tell whether or not they are talking to someone with an IQ if 120 or below vs someone with an IQ as high as theirs or higher. They may tolerate them and even enjoy their company but someone 150 or above was talking to them instead they would notice the difference. And they would be able to say with some confidence that the person whose IQ was 120 and claimed that their IQ was 150 was just shitting. The person who is 120 may not notice the difference between someone else who is 120 and someone who is 150 however. > > I do not know if it is true, but I’d suspect so. And why would you suspect so? My point was that there just aren’t the same sorts of differences. I’d be glad to see some examples of yours, but I can’t think of anything that’s even equivalent to the difference between an average person and a borderline retarded one. ---
**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053/140 "2010-04-02T23:36:41Z")
ivn1188, You disagree with everything I said and I accept that. I suspect, however, that if I mention I disagree with what you said … it would somehow be perceived as somewhat unacceptable, particularly if I said you have precisely demonstrated my points … so I won’t say that. Respectfully, Turble [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iq-difference-and-jokes/534053.md?page=8)