Regardless, this thread is about the current reality, not the lead up.
But before we get to the article, let me restate my thesis – it’s always helpful to be clear – that motivates these comments.
(i) The war was misplaced and mis-executed in a strategic sense. I mean not the strategy of the combat, I mean the grandest sense. However, this is stated as an issue of context, the assumption being that better strategic positioning vis-à-vis the political framework would enable a better context post war. I do not wish to re-debate the war justifications nor other fine points. I consider it a clear fact that at minimum, the international political context was, at best less than ideal. And I mean that in a real sense, not in some idealized set of contexts, but in the context of what is realistically achievable.
(ii) Based on a strategy of minimization, the present American Administration has adopted a consistent policy of minimization in regards to both
a. the potential threats, domestic and regional including
(1) military requirements and
(2) political engagements and
b. economic or financial in regards to resources necessary to achieve a reasonable exit based on both stated and implicit policy goals, above all long term.
(iii) The policy in (b) is doomed to failure and that a post WWII full on commitment is required, even at the cost of some short term domestic pain induced by the implied deficits.
So, the article: “Postwar Window Closing in Iraq, Study Says: More Funds, International Force Recommended to Improve Security Situation” By Vernon Loeb Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, 18 July 2003; Page A09 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8445-2003Jul17.html
First, the context.
I suppose it would be ungenerous of me to point out that I have been saying this for, what, two or three months or that this should put paid to our “Usual Suspects” claims that “all is fine” in Iraq. I further find it fundamentally frustrating that opportunities are being lost.
Let me give context. I am going to be frank, the evil inner-me said, as far back as April, “I hope it goes badly for that will preclude stupid and in the end counter productive adventurism.” The other side, that is reality, wanted things to go well. As I said, I am working on efforts to put together really funds for regional and specifically Iraqi investments. However, even high risk investors are rather averse to Iraq in the present state, for the ElDerado depends on some modicum of stability and above all clarity.
I am sad to say the hopes of the evil and highly theoretical me have come true. My more real and greedy self is frustrated. Now december has characterized me as a Bush Basher. I don’t see this as fair. First, because I rather think I am a pragmatism above all, I would do business with Shaitan if he held the right cards. Second, because I am perfectly willing to give credit where credit is due. For example, the initial Afghan efforts. Brilliantly done in many respects, and better than I thought. Pity we dropped the motherfucking ball on that afterwards, again the same domain of follow-through. This administration has no follow through.
Now further to the report, first let me note that I find it pitiful that it received so little press. And not because of its small bones thrown to the symbolic “significant progress” and similar things to make people like december happy, no because it hits on some key points.
First finding:
I suppose this is what I have been saying in my interventions and reporting since two months, there are possibilities, but empty spin mongering and political posturing for a notoriously ignorant and short sighted American electorate (esp. one that has such khayali bullshit visions of MENA wealth, as even displayed by otherwise moderately well informed …. personages if one will, here) will kill medium and long term gains, and indeed end up with a deep net negative result.
As I have said many time, time to push for pony up and kicking in.
Context:
Further to that.
See my own arguments dating back two months or more.
In other words, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing and are not coordinating properly with the people who do.
The Defense Department and the Military are not repositories of deep knowledge of other countries, regions, cultures or even worse, basic and fundamental economics or business principals.
If I may restate, Catch 22 generated by the Administrations own idiocy in wedding itself more to ideology than to rational analysis.
Wonderful, how many private contractors want to die for $2.5 a day?
Well, this suggests that our dear Rumsfeld and Bush may have been suckered by Sadaam. That is that at some point Sadaam et al realized that they could not hold and so decided to prepare a guerilla effort.
And our dear Jingoist Crowd went for this hook, line and sinker – that body of person duped regrettably includes a large number of current SDMB commentators.
Further to that:
True or not, the myth has begun, the Americans have been outsmarted.
I can personally report that it is almost impossible, even for someone such as myself with close contacts, to get in touch with these people.
Isolated, without good intel or even resources, how the fuck are these people supposed to get their jobs done?
Have I not been saying this since fucking May? Why does it take a special mission to get this across? When will people like Mace, Sam, December, etc stop making fucking excuses and start beating the Neo-Conservo-Idjits doors demanding things be done right, ideology be damned.
The reality is that for this ill conceived and ill advised adventure not to be a disaster of Vietnamesque proportions, funds and support to a rational and highly international reconstruction need to be mobilized. The ideologues game of trying to prove “we” can do it alone is going to fail, and very clearly all those chest beating claims about “we” can do it “better” were rather ill-conceived. Now if I were some ungenerous foreign official I might very well say to myself, “let them be hoist on their own petard, their arrogant short sighted fools.” Let us hope that the world will be more generous, with some climb downs by the arrogant, ignorant and short sighted fools.
What I would like to see is an engagement on the part of all American political parties to pony what will be necessary and end this myth that somehow or someway the war will, in the short term, “pay for itself.” I mean ponying up around $30 billion a year for three years or so to get things kicked off. Tax payer dollars, in addition to my money. I mean risk capital. Do it right, you get a return, multiples on the dollar. Do it wrong and you are all fucked.
U.S. May Be Forced to Go Back to U.N. for Iraq Mandate
By CHRISTOPHER MARQUIS
The New York Times
Interesting reporting for it raises the possibility that there will be internatinalization along the lines I have called for, however it also raises the possibility this will be blocked by the anti-UN ideologues. In any case, once more our dear anti-UN unilateralists see why the UN remains relevant, despite the smear campaign.
Relevant sections:
Lessons, easy lessons that need not have been so expensive in lives and lost opportunities.
Key reasons.
Indeed, hardly is the US in a strong position on this, with a degrading position as its own fact finding team indicated, and not enough resources. Well, can’t own the whole game if you don’t have the oomph or don’t want to shoulder the costs. Indeed why should other nations spend their money and their lives on a game that few thought was well-considered or reasonable, and after this Administration spent the last six months acting like the cowboys and claiming the US could do it alone.
Our Dear Blog Spotter Extraordinaire, however, has not gotten the Spin Memo yet, however.
Fairly obvious conclusions actually, obvious to anyone familiar with the situation since April. But the Neo-Cons wanted to show their fine little ideas, pure as driven snow, worked just like they thought they did.
The article also notes:
But why the Admin thought the Indians would want to blow their prestige being Pentagon Lackeys on the cheap I don’t fathom, must be the same kind of navel gazing jingoism that led the Administration to alienate the Turks and blow that game as well.
In essence, as the article argues, except for some piss-ant East European nations almost no one wants to pony up troops or material, and as I noted elsewhere, the offers by the Eastern Europeans have been thin gruel. For example the Hungarians offering truck drivers but no trucks or mechanics.
The famous “coalition of the willing” then is this:
Nice balance that.
Further, the article conveys the argument, as I made earlier in this thread, that internationalization would reduce the political backlash (although it may be too late)
However, the question is why should Indo-Pak or other forces put their lives on the line for something the Pentagon still clearly wants to run – despite its incompetence to date – as its own show? Why should others put their reputations and lives on the line for something they have no say in?
Indeed as the article notes
Well, it probably does hurt to have to eat crow, beak and all.
And as to raising money:
Again, they want to own the game, but get others to pay.
My hope then is that pride does not get in the way of national interest.
I thought I might provide further analysis from the Economist
“Life under the coalition: Dodge City on the Tigris” The Economist 17 July 2003.
Again further reporting on the issue of reconstruction that I feel is relevant. Of most note is the cynicism that now greets American efforts and December-like happy talk (which insults those who have to hear it):
Given that random violent crime in the region and in Iraq were almost non-existent (corruption and other forms of crime are the problems elsewhere, not generally US style random violence) and given the absurdity of the comparison (no crime stats are collected, and frankly there are no American cities where the carrying of military arms in self-defence is de rigeur. (An aside, of course, we also have living proof that a merely armed populace is not a guarantee of liberty. Arms are a tool, and no guarantee at all without the social underpinning)
The article further notes later:
Not encouraging at all, a vicious negative cycle that needs to be broken, desperately, for the US begins to look ever more incompetent and ridiculous given the pre-war and immediate post-war posturing and bragging.
Now the article does raise another issue, one which I admit I had not encountered in analyses before, that of Sadaam having privileged certain areas, power wise. Note, Baghdad area is the single densest and largest population center in all Iraq.
While it is probably good to be more just in power distribution, it may not be entirely wise, given, as noted, (a) Baghdad area is the single densest and largest concentration of population in all Iraq and center of economic activity (b) urban regions such as Baghdad tend to be centers of unrest more than the provinces.
Regardless, again it should be clear that more resources are needed, fast.
It rather appears as if the Admin. assumptions re Iraqi oil paying for efforts is, as appears now to be habitual, badly off.
Rather clearly this is not going to be self financing as the Administration seems to be betting on. As I have warned and predicted since April, betting on the oil to jump start things is a bad, bad bet, although this situation is far worse than anyone thought might be, ex blowing the wells.
As for Bremer, I have sympathy for him as his efforts are being starved for resources. Fact of life… only because some people back in Washington do not wish to face up to the real costs as Election year rolls up.
Look at the bloody numbers I have cited above, esp. in re reconstruction capital needed and come to your own conclusions.
For the past several months I have not encourated any sign of fat in the CPA-I efforts, only signs of capital shortage.
Capital available to jump start massive infrastructure reconstruction. Funding available to begin massive public works projects to soak up unemployed Iraqis and begin to make immediate dent in unrest. Facilities -and financing- to give insurance to any and all foreign investors, to help jump start initial capital flows.
Etc.
Only you could possibly write such a completly fact free sentance. In fact, oil exports are well behind schedule and well below initial targets.
Just found:
BBC report which confirms my uncited numbers given last month or so. Slightly different, but I would expect my source got it from the same analyses.
Iraq rebuilding ‘could cost $90bn’ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3071159.stm
Also for those of you interested, the CPA-Iraq has its own website up, with all the Propaganda you can want in a day. Business information here: http://www.cpa-iraq.org/business/index.html
I wonder if all the emphasis on resuming oil production isn’t a bit of an illusion. Oil production is not that labor intensive, you drill the hole, you pump the goo. Once production is up, its mostly a matter of maintenance.
As has been noted, Iraq ante bellum was an oddly twisted form of socialism, intermixed with a smallish, mom-and-pop sort of private sector. Presumably, with considerable numbers of “make-work” employment which is one of the chief banes of socialist economies: providing unproductive work to avoid social unrest and misery.
Those jobs must necessarily be gone. Presumably, the mom’n pop culture may revive with the return of ordinary economic activity. And many will be employed in the reconstruction of the oil fields (if sufficient “risk” capital can be obtained,though I fail to see how this might be done without America essentially indemnifying that risk…). But once the oil is flowing, there will yet remain some unknown mass of unemployed and virtually unemployable Iraqis.
The irony of our neo-con leaders providing welfare, food stamps, and universal health care to unemployed Iraqis while giving stern “boot-strap” lectures to our own people is palpable.
The Bushistas simply must…must…go hat in hand to the UN, NATO, the Arab League, anyone who might remotely be inclined to help. If they serve us a turd sundae of humiliation, we must put a cherry on top and gobble it down, yummy yummy. We wrecked it, but we cannot fix it alone.
Oil production is highly capital intensive and technically challenging.
Aside from that, Iraq has not had proper maintenance - not a trivial matter in any case - for at least ten years.
No, the problems are not an illusion, they are very, very real.
To the italicized part, yes, you get a medal. Unitl there is insurance coverage for sovereign and related risk, and even insurance on likely ‘acts of war’ – sabotage-- not even people like me can seriously invest, and I’ve worked on investments where site visits required armed guards.
I am not so down on the employability of Iraqis. Iraqi skill levels in technical fields are actually very good, not world class perhaps but very good.
They do utterly lack good management and related “soft” skills - the situation is highly reminiscent of Eastern Europe c. 1990 (and specifically Yugoslavia). That is the value add people like me bring, when the time comes.
I am not sure I entirely agree, but climb downs from the high horse are in order.
Well, I am still disappointed at the defeaning silence - except for december’s ever more wilted forays - from the War Hawk and related crowds. Where’s the outrage over the wilted efforts so far?
You misunderstood.or I wasnt clear. I am referrring to the number of persons who can be meaningfully employed by the oil industry. It is not the problems I regards as potentially illusory, it is the rewards, esp. as regards employment of Iraqis.
Well, there are (a) a host of service industries and the like and (b) the wider Iraqi economy would be aided by the confidence that sustained production brings.
Still, yes, getting oil production in gear does not end the problems.
One assumes that undermining the morale of the occupying forces has to be the primary goal of any ‘guerrilla-type campaign’. It can’t help, in that regard, that the attrition rate is currently about one US soldier a day and that, at least in the past couple of weeks, the US hasn’t been able to deal with the attackers.
IMHO, quite soon Bush is going to have to let the UN get into some meaningful nation building or his waning domestic popularity may start to impinge on Nov 2004.
Is the morale issue aired much in the US at present ?
Tough business this ‘white mans burden’ stuff. Not convinced it works in the fully democractic era . . . .
Shamefully neglected so far in the American press, we now have Bremer on the record. From the Financial Times, so far I may add the single best source in regular media for keeping tabs:
Keep tabs on this. I doubt it is going to happen but perhaps he got special funding in.
Note
I’ll do a summary analysis of this shortly, have to anyway for real world purposes.
I do note that
35 years is an exageration 20 years is reasonable. Short fall or not, it is dangerous.
Note further:
Not far off the early figures I provided.
Further
About fucking time on the last, and one would have thought insofar as it was obvious there were issues even back in May, that there would have been more aggressive planning. However, the CPA-Iraq boys I met did not seem to have their bosses ear until recently.
$400 million… Well better than nothing but pouring water into the sand.
Further to the issue of resources, note
Immediately raises the issue in my mind, are we talking phantom funding once again, based on wishes, maybes and promises from that “coalition of the willing”?
A sign of climb downs, the following statement?:
Or is the Adminsitration still hoping that somehow others will finance without them having to give up precious control.
May I congratulate Colounsbury for his clear insight. Not only in the matters he clearly is specialized in (which I’m certainly not) but also for his knowledge and understanding of regional and local sensitivities with their related problems.
As for the problems the occupation forces face:
Everyone with some little bit of insight could predict such evolution and everyone was aware on forehand that those in charge in the US government and military weren’t able to forsee this, let be to prevent.
Incredible arrogance meeting unthinkable ignorance is what asks its toll right now in Iraq.
Sadly enough the UK, with its historical experience in the region, wasn’t able to put the weight of this advantage into the scale.
Although one could easily distinct the clear difference in approach by the UK military from the very first days of the invasion. (The reported incidents of UK soldiers allegedly torturing/humiliating prisoners put aside here. If found to be true, I tend to consider this seperate incidents, not representative for the mentality and behaviour among the UK troops and/or their leadership).
And we see surfacing every day a bit more the events that were most likely to happen if the brutal power of the Baath regime was overthrown the way it was done = from the outside by people with complete ignorance and complete lack of interest to become or be informed of and about the reality inside.
It is an almost impossible job and it shall need more then some little miracle to stabilize this virtual instable country “peacefully” (God, forgive me the word).
Because if one thing you could say about the Hussein regime, it is that at least it could keep these things under control at the surface.
Yet beneath it all those tribal, ethnical, linguistic, religous and cultural differences with the related problems and possible tensions remained and will always be there.
These forces are on the loose right now and each of them is on a quest to search ways to gain influence on the future of the nation.
The only thing one can hope for is that the voices calling for religious and ethnical unity - becoming vocal in the first period after the fall of the regime - will be able to gain support. The tricky thing in this for the occupyers is that the majority of those voices at the same time focus on getting rid of the invaders as soon as possible.
I find no reason for not remaining as sceptical about the final outcome as I was before this unhealthy adventure of US colonialism started.
The unrealistic US boasting that this illegal invasion and occupation by non Muslims of a sovereign nation with a more then 97% Muslim population would bring the “whole region” in motion towards “democracy” is for crying your eyes out with laughter, if it wasn’t so dramatically sad seen the outraging cost of human lives and misery.
One remark on an early post of you in this thread, Colounsbury:
The introduction of some shari’a laws in a state’s constitution doesn’t ** necessary** imply bad divorce laws or that women’s rights in general are endangered.
You surely know that one state is not the other and that one madhab is not the other and that most countries of the MENA region have a constitution based on European examples with in several cases a very reduced influence of the shari’a. (The practice is an other case, but let’s be for once a bit over-optimistic for what considers the future of Iraq, no?).
And you surely know that the “secularism” of Turkey is about the most bad example of what “secularism” can mean for describing a working democracy. Which is one of the reasons why it completely failed to have influence on especially rural communities, with all the consequences.
It may not be necessary, however the reality is that most of those who advocate sharia law per se also have fairly retrograde attitudes towards women’s rights. I am well aware, of course, of the potential for more liberating readings, however that is not the reality.
Your paragraph is unclear here. However, as I understand you’re noting that there are several schools of jurisprudence, that application varies from country to country and that most countries in the region have constitutions in part modeled after European models, above all French. I am well aware of this, however in general the personal code is sharia’ – in the broadest sense – based for Muslims, in whatever aspects the local state felt appropriate. In general the personal code is conservative and more custom bound than the general Code Civil for non-personal matters, e.g. commercial law.
Secularism and working democracy are not synonyms and never have been. One may come without the other. As for the success or failure of Turkish secularism, well, it certainly is healthier than most any Arab secularism, and while the Turkish system is flawed, perhaps in the long turn fatally, the conservatism of rural areas has nothing to do with this per se, it is a typical sociological phenomena. The ability of the Turkish system to handle this fact in the long run is another matter.
Now this past weekend I had the occasion to speak with several of my contacts who were returning from Iraq. It was not encouraging.
First, one of my friends, perhaps friendly acquaintance is a more accurate term, has been evacuated to Germany after her convoy was attacked by guerrillas and her driver killed. It appears that Iraqi guerilla forces are developing new strategies in attacking convoys, making it harder for security to intercept (or requiring relaxation in the rules of engagement, implying more accidental civilian deaths) .
Speaking with a UN area official I know well, I came away with the impression that they feel that the situation is substantially degrading. The same official, who has accurately forecast developments in the past, noted to me that he felt that the situation in the South was becoming more and more problematic with heavily armed gangs essentially controlling the Basra region, and beginning to engage in kidnapping of businessmen and the like. Coalition forces and international forces have not yet become targets, but he noted a similar pattern had occurred in the North. He expressed concern for generalized resistance movements arising as well given a continually crappy security profile and substantial frustration on the part of the Iraqis.
Similar views I heard from an American major and regional specialist (Arabic) I know well, who indicated he felt the situation would get worse before it got better. When I expressed my interest in opening an office in Baghdad, the major suggested that would not be a prudent idea at present. Recounted a fine account of how he and his team move in Iraq – at full speed, damn the torpedos driving style to make it harder for the AKs and RPGs to lead them. Every day is like that, and every car that seems to overtake is considered potentially hostile. The major, who had also served in peace keeping operations was bitterly critical of Rumsfeld et als planning to date and expressed frustration that troops were not receiving peace keeping training, which tended to feed into further incident generation. (See e.g. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48589-2003Jul25.html )
Further to this, we have the recent news that the Bush Administration is considering trying to get James Baker on board for further upgrading of efforts, amid reports that Bremer was just in Washington lobbying for more support.
Again, my challenge to all the war hawks, is where is the reconstruction beef? I heard all these happy scenarios before the war, and during, on reconstruction. What we have seen is continued bumbling, slouching forward with greater concern for the day to day politics in the states and ideological purity (no internationalization except on our terms).
I highlight the following:
The gap between the cash needed to rebuild the country’s economy and revenues from oil, estimated at $14 billion in 2004, could be as high as $16 billion a year, Lugar said. However, he said that assistance from other countries and private investment could substantially reduce that figure.
Other analysts say it would be a mistake to expect oil revenues to cover much of the reconstruction. Edward C. Chow, a former Chevron Corp. executive serving as a visiting scholar at Carnegie, estimated that one-third of Iraq’s oil revenues need to be reinvested into an oil industry that has fallen into disrepair. The remaining two-thirds need to be spent on importing basic necessities.
‘‘In my mind, there is no oil money available to go into any sector but oil,’’ Chow said in an interview.
So far, the administration has declined to put a full price tag on the cost of the military operation, or the civilian costs of reconstruction. Already, original estimates of the military operation, at nearly $4 billion a month, are double projections made last spring."
I note that the highlighted analysis has been my own as well, fairly clear to anyone who looks closely, yet every CPA plan I see somehow wants to back Recon efforts with oil. Securitized oil receipts for this, for that. I think they’ve budgeted every oil dollar five times plus.
By the way, Mods, I believe it has come time to change title, if I may ask for “Iraq Reconstruction: Sloaching Towards Disaster On The Cheap.”
I no longer can maintain neutrality on this, disaster looms.