# Iraqi Governing Council President murdered

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-governing-council-president-murdered/245582>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 17, 2004, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-governing-council-president-murdered/245582 "2004-05-17T12:32:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-governing-council-president-murdered/245582/21 "2004-05-17T21:07:14Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> Add “thick” to the list of traits  
> \<snip\>  
> My gripe is that \*_there’s no debate here_.

Guilty as charged! I thought this was in the Pit and didn’t see the need for a debate. I do stand corrected.

My objection to **Martin Hyde** ’s comment about his door still stands though.

> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Just as ONE MAN cannot look over the 20m+ Iraqis, either.

What happened to “The Buck Stops Here”? Again, it’s not that he can’t control everything that happens in Iraq, it’s that he didn’t have a plan for controlling \*\*anything \*\* that happened in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-governing-council-president-murdered/245582/22 "2004-05-17T21:09:01Z")

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> [@Jamoross](#):
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> Try looking up “confirmation bias” then attempt to re-rationalize.  
> Use Google if you haven’t an adequate dictionary.
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> (Not that I expect any change in the course of your brain loop.)
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> - jam

What the bloody hell??? Could this post be any more cryptic?

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-governing-council-president-murdered/245582/23 "2004-05-17T21:15:28Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> Umm, okay. But I gotta ask again, “What are we supposed to be _debating_ here?” The key word being “debate.” That is, after all, the purpose of this forum.

Well then you should have stopped right there.

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> If we’re just here to pile blame on Bush for every goddamned thing that happens in Iraq, it’s gonna become a pretty tedious place—like it’s already becoming.

But that’s the whole point, at least it is now that you’ve brought it to the center. You can’t say that Bush isn’t responsible for what happens in Iraq, because he is the one who MADE THE DECISION to invade Iraq. If I decide to walk down skid row at midnight with 100-dollar bills hanging out of my pockets, I’m an idiot. It doesn’t do any good to say I’m “not responsible” for someone deciding to mug me.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-governing-council-president-murdered/245582/24 "2004-05-17T21:21:35Z")

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[Moderator Hat ON]

Guys, if you’re going to post in GD try to actually HAVE a debatable question in your OP. Unclebeer, don’t call posters “thick” outside of the Pit. I’m locking this for being a general mess going nowhere. If anyone wants to phrase a proper debate re this topic, feel free.

[Moderator Hat OFF]

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