# Iraqi information minister - Still says US not in Baghdad

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**Created:** [April 7, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055 "2003-04-07T13:39:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/1 "2003-04-07T13:39:34Z")

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[http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&e=12&u=/ap/20030407/ap\_on\_re\_mi\_ea/war\_iraqi\_spokesman\_6](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&e=12&u=/ap/20030407/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_iraqi_spokesman_6)

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> They are sick in their minds. They say they brought 65 tanks into center of city. I say to you this talk is not true. This is part of their sick mind," Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf said. “There is no presence of American infidels in the city of Baghdad at all.”

I’m expecting this clown to be giving a news conference and have a column of M1s appear in the window behind him. Who is he trying to lie to? His own people? The press?

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/2 "2003-04-07T13:44:02Z")

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I currently have a GD thread regarding **Iraqi Politic: The Coy Young Maiden Approach is completely pathetic** … Nuff said.  
And yes I can not wait to see a group of Marines, charge into his press conference and him still saying, there are no infidels in Baghdad!!!

Pathetic, and I really do not see the rationale.

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**Author:** ![Tabithina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Tabithina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabithina)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/3 "2003-04-07T13:49:01Z")

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Heh. It’ll be fun to see what he does if coalition forces stand right behind him, mugging for the camera and waving. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/4 "2003-04-07T14:20:04Z")

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Sorry Phlosphr - I generally don’t wander into GD.  
I’ll go over and take a looksee!

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**Author:** ![Oicu812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f475e1/32.png) [@Oicu812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oicu812)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/5 "2003-04-07T14:25:19Z")

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Saddam’s security chief calls all of Saddam’s look-alikes together to make an important announcement.  
He says to them:

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> “I’ve got good news, and I also have bad news.”  
> “The good news is - Saddam is alive”.  
> After a brief pause he then adds:  
> "The bad news is - he has lost an arm.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/6 "2003-04-07T14:55:05Z")

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I think he’d be a little bit more believable if he conceded just a bit, “We’ve lost some of our brave fighters to the infidels, but we are holding strong” but this complete Queen of Denial routine is getting ludicrous.

There’s a BBQ Pit thread too…about what a pisser he is.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/7 "2003-04-07T17:20:48Z")

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I’m reminded of the end of “Animal House,” when the guy is screeching “ALL IS WELL!!!” while people run around in panic behind him as the parade collapses.

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**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/8 "2003-04-07T19:37:45Z")

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I’m thinking of the King of HyBrasil in _Erik the Viking_ - as the island sinks into the sea, he assures the populace that “This is _not_ happening!” in a sing-song voice…

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**Author:** ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/9 "2003-04-07T20:30:38Z")

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I assume everyone else is doing like we are doing and calling him “the Mis-information Minister”.

I am sorta starting to feel sorry for the guy. Because 1) he believes what he is saying or 2) he is deluding his own people. Either way it is a sad thing.

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/10 "2003-04-07T20:52:09Z")

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Actually, I had Leslie Neilson (sp?) in the Naked Gun in my mind with this. There is a scene where a house is burning down and fireworks and crap going off with total mahem behind him.  
**Nothing to see here, nothing to see here, Move on!**.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/11 "2003-04-07T21:10:11Z")

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If this goes on much longer, he may be like John Cleese’s Black Knight from “Monty Python and the Holy grail.” He’ll be on the ground, armless and legless, saying, “Right… we’ll call it a draw.”

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**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/12 "2003-04-07T23:54:35Z")

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Maybe he doesn’t know he’s really not in Baghdad. Maybe they’ve kept him in some little room with a tiny window in the outer reached of Iraq and just TOLD him he was in Baghdad.

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**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/13 "2003-04-08T00:05:46Z")

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Maybe he doesn’t know he’s really not in Baghdad. Maybe they’ve kept him in some little room with a tiny window in the outer reached of Iraq and just TOLD him he was in Baghdad.

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**Author:** ![Cleophus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e57/32.png) [@Cleophus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cleophus)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/14 "2003-04-08T00:08:52Z")

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Or, if he doesn’t say what he is saying, he’ll be executed.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/15 "2003-04-08T00:10:54Z")

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it is rather baffling. there is plausible deniability, and then there is the iraqi information minister. he, (i hate to say it,) is wearing no clothes.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/16 "2003-04-08T00:39:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cleophus \*  
> \*\*Or, if he doesn’t say what he is saying, he’ll be executed. \*\*

Quite a possibility. According to news reports, whether or not Saddam is alive, they’re pretty sure Qusay still is.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/17 "2003-04-08T01:58:11Z")

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nbc just broke in with news of a massive strike, that may have killed saddam and his sons. the bombs were dropped in a very residential area and the crater is very huge.

they acted on intelligence that sh, qh, and uh, along with top advisors were meeting.

i’ve been thinking that saddam has been out of it for a while. i would have expected there to at the very least booby traps in the various “palaces.” the lack of things flying toward israel, and no sign of the womd’s seemed rather strange with saddam at the helm.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/18 "2003-04-08T02:20:28Z")

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Hmmmm…maybe we really aren’t there.

Wag the Dog, anyone?

😛

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/19 "2003-04-08T03:44:50Z")

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God, this press conference sounds like a bad SNL sketch or something. Maybe we took over Iraqi TV after all?

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-information-minister-still-says-us-not-in-baghdad/167055/20 "2003-04-08T20:35:27Z")

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Two words.

Burbank. Soundstage.

😛

Sua

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