# Iraqi oil to flow into Israel. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 20, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292 "2003-06-20T22:00:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/1 "2003-06-20T22:00:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he > > Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he expects > an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel to be reopened > in the near future after being closed when Israel > became a state in 1948. Things are really getting interesting now. Of course it’s not about the oil :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/2 "2003-06-20T22:01:26Z")
[http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/307500.html](http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/307500.html) ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/3 "2003-06-20T22:10:12Z")
Hmm… This isn’t necessarily a bad idea in the long run. It’s a ready source of income for the Iraqis. It just seems like such a bad PR move, though. This kind of statement should really wait until the Israeli/Palestinian dispute is settled. What is the need to add any possible fuel to the fire now? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/4 "2003-06-20T22:19:51Z")
Right. I makes sense now. Just because the Iraqis have historically dedicated to the destruction of Israel and there was some schmuck in charge there for years who wouldn’t deal with them, I guess Israel should never, ever have any sort of relations with Iraq. And especially not oil. :rolleyes: That’s like saying I shouldn’t say hello to a guy who beat me up in second grade. And you know what? You would have said this no matter where the oil went. I think you were drooling over the opportunity to make the “It’s all about the oil” comment. So, is it turning out as well as you’d hoped? ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/5 "2003-06-20T22:20:52Z")
So what is the problem here, **Reeder**? Should Iraqi oil specifically _not_ be allowed to be sold to Israel? You have this annoying habit of posting the link to a story, and a smarmy quip or two, but no real debate. What do _you_ see as the problem to be debated here? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/6 "2003-06-20T22:23:49Z")
It is about the oil. Water and power hasn’t been restored to all of Bagdad but the oil is flowing. Show me a link where it tells me how much Iraq has made from the oil that’s been pumped since we occupied Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/7 "2003-06-20T22:24:45Z")
Show me a link that says that ANY oil has been pumped to this point. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/8 "2003-06-20T22:25:44Z")
Agree with **BnS**. Israel is a market for Iraqi oil, which we _want_ to sell to finance reconstruction. Tone deaf PR by Netanyahu, however. (So what’s new?) ---
**Author:** ![if\_you\_don\_t\_know\_i\_won\_t\_tell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/fbc32d/32.png) [@if\_you\_don\_t\_know\_i\_won\_t\_tell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if_you_don_t_know_i_won_t_tell)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/9 "2003-06-20T22:33:54Z")
Um. So? Oil is money. Regardless of the reason **for** taking Iraq, and as I’ve said before, I’m neutral on the issue, oil is necessary for Iraq’s revival and health. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/10 "2003-06-20T22:38:35Z")
Someone explain this for me please [Executive order 13303](http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2003/03-13412.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/11 "2003-06-20T22:43:52Z")
It appears to be an Executive Order repudiating any deals that were in effect that were made by the old government. Big flurkin’ deal. Are you going to make a point here or are you just going to throw up pointless cites and unsupported claims? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/12 "2003-06-20T22:50:35Z")
I read it as giving the oil companies, who will actually be doing the pumping, carte blanche with the profits. And no one can sue to direct the profits to a more worthy cause. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/13 "2003-06-20T22:56:02Z")
So why did you ask for an explanation, since you already knew the answer? By the way, since you’re the one asserting things, I’m still waiting for that cite I asked for. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/14 "2003-06-20T22:56:50Z")
Show me in the order where it mentions any standing deals. > [@](#): > > I hereby order: > > ``` > Section 1. Unless licensed or otherwise authorized > pursuant to this order, any attachment, judgment, > decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other judicial > process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and > void, with respect to the following: > > ``` No mention of previous deals. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/15 "2003-06-20T22:58:07Z")
i just offer my opinion. I am not privy to the thoughts of Bush. As you are I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/16 "2003-06-20T23:02:07Z")
I’m sorry but how come you are so convinced that the Iraqi popuplation should pay for what the criminal invaders have destroyed. Why are you talking as if the natural resources of that country BELONG to the USA and that the USA has any RIGT to DECIDE about selling it to WHOM? This is once again the typical hypocritical disgusting American arrogance. You act as of the whole world belongs to you. Well get some news people: time to become a bit modest since the world has enough of your attitudes and your bloody criminal government in the first place. Aldebaran. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/17 "2003-06-20T23:02:36Z")
> [@](#): > > BAGHDAD: Looting and technical snags have kept Iraqi oil output near 750,000 barrels per day (bpd) since last month, and the war-torn country is expected to pump only 1-1.2 million bpd by mid-July, below its previous target, an Iraqi oil official said on Tuesday. > > Iraq had hoped its vast oilfields would be cranking out 1.5 million bpd by the end of June. But with virtually no increase in pumping rates over the past month, some officials now say Baghdad will fail to reach its goal. > > “We are producing between 700,000 to 750,000 bpd,” a senior Iraqi oil official told Reuters. [http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story\_18-6-2003\_pg5\_14](http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_18-6-2003_pg5_14) ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/18 "2003-06-20T23:14:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aldebaran \* > **This is once again the typical hypocritical disgusting American arrogance. You act as of the whole world belongs to you. > Well get some news people: time to become a bit modest since the world has enough of your attitudes and your bloody criminal government in the first place.** I’m not usually the first one to get all jingoistic around here, but what, exactly is your pathetic country going to do about it? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/19 "2003-06-20T23:18:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aldebaran \* > **I’m sorry but how come you are so convinced that the Iraqi popuplation should pay for what the criminal invaders have destroyed.** The Iraqi population isn’t paying. The oil money is. I hope it’s all being done in good faith for the benefit of the Iraqi people. > [@](#): > > **Why are you talking as if the natural resources of that country BELONG to the USA and that the USA has any RIGT to DECIDE about selling it to WHOM?** The USA has the right because we took on the obligation to rebuild the country after getting rid of Saddam and changing things so dramatically. > [@](#): > > **This is once again the typical hypocritical disgusting American arrogance. You act as of the whole world belongs to you.** And everyone else acts like we owe them something until we ask something, in which case we’re being arrogant. Or they fly planes into skyscrapers. Either way, somehow it’s our fault. And **Reeder** : Thanks for the cite. It would have been a lot easier if you had posted that in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292/20 "2003-06-20T23:21:59Z")
Did you really think oil wasn’t being pumped? Now the question is…whither goest the profits? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iraqi-oil-to-flow-into-israel/183292.md?page=2)