# IRC message board drug overdose

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 3, 2003, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605 "2003-02-03T22:57:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/1 "2003-02-03T22:57:09Z")

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I am very surprised to see that no one has picked up on this yet.

[This article](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html) in the NY Daily News tells the tale of Brandon Vedas, 21, who popped pill after pill to prove how “hardcore” he was to his like minded druggie buddies on an internet message board. This predictably led to unconsousness and death.

[Here is the text of the actual message board](http://www.dancesafe.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB20&Number=95742&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) .

As you can see, some of the shitbags who frequent this board actually are human beings with some sort of moral compass. They consider calling 911 or doing something to try and find the identity of the kid they were watching die in front of their eyes. However, most did nothing except to cheer him on as he slowly killed himself.

It’s fucksticks like these that make all online forums look to the general public like they are filled with psycos and losers. These shitlicking donkeys should be fucking prosecuted for their heinous indifference to human life. These people can all fucking drop dead right now and society would be better off. Fuck you all.

Not that Brandon seems deserving of any saving. What’s the matter, Ripper? Life just not exciting enough for you in Pheonix area these days?

It’s one thing if you want to fucking off yourself. I disagree with anyone taking their own life, but WTF? To each his own. But, for you to die from your own fucking stupidity, for nothing other than your own weakness of character is just sad. The only reason you seemed to do this was to impress a bunch of sick druggies that you don’t even know. Fuck you, putz.

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/2 "2003-02-03T23:02:39Z")

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[Brandon, you will be missed.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=158648&highlight=Smoke2k)

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/3 "2003-02-03T23:03:12Z")

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Ya beat me to the punch there, Robb.

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/4 "2003-02-03T23:05:52Z")

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I hope there aren’t any repercussion for that. 😉

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/5 "2003-02-03T23:09:58Z")

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Kind of an interesting slant there, flaming a suicide for offing himself. :rolleyes:

From Malkavia’s thread:

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> He was always the kid with so much potential.

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**Author:** ![Mad\_Dog\_20\_20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7c8e57/32.png) [@Mad\_Dog\_20\_20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mad_Dog_20_20)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/6 "2003-02-03T23:31:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Debaser \*  
> **…for nothing other than your own weakness of character…**

How sad. How utterly sad. You have not a clue, my friend. Not one. There is much for you to learn about drugs, addiction and the human mind. Good luck in your endevour, although I rather think you won’t even stop to think about it.

Whatever. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/7 "2003-02-03T23:42:41Z")

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Well. I have to say that this:

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> _Originally posted by Debaser_: \*\*But, for you to die from your own fucking stupidity, for nothing other than your own weakness of character is just sad. \*\*

is one of the most misguided statements I’ve ever read.

Personally, I think your complete lack of understanding and compassion is rather sad.

_fixed coding - UB_

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**Author:** ![jane\_says](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@jane\_says](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jane_says)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/8 "2003-02-03T23:48:26Z")

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What’s with all the drug threads lately? With me getting pitted, the original Brandon/Ripper thread, the SUV/drug thread, am I missing any?

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**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/9 "2003-02-04T00:38:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Debaser \*  
> **It’s fucksticks like these that make all online forums look to the general public like they are filled with psycos and losers**

Just to clarify, IRC isn’t a message board. It’s a realtime chat system, Internet Relay Chat. It was around loooong before we had these web-based message boards.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/10 "2003-02-04T01:07:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joey G \*  
> \*\*Just to clarify, IRC isn’t a message board. It’s a realtime chat system, Internet Relay Chat. It was around loooong before we had these web-based message boards. \*\*

Yes, but message boards (though not www based) were around loooong before IRC.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/11 "2003-02-04T03:28:55Z")

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D’oh! Sorry for the double thread. I really did look before posting, but must have missed it.  
**Duck Duck Goose** , who said it was a suicide? The NYT article and the text of the actual chat room don’t tell the tale of a suicide but of an idiot who tries to impress everyone with his “high tolerance” of pills.

**Mad Dog 20/20** and \*\* alice\_in\_wonderland\*\*:

I see nothing that indicates this was an addict who couldn’t help himself. He did this to impress people, and that is a weakness of character and worthy of ridicule. Fuck him. If it makes you feel any better then: Fuck the people in the chat room too.

**Joey G** and \*\* hajario\*\*:

It’s my understanding that message boards were first, then IRC. Either way, the _general public_ that I referred to doesn’t know the difference for the most part. It still reflects poorly on the internet in general as a method of communication and community.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/12 "2003-02-04T03:31:04Z")

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Oh, and mods: when you get a chance please feel free to close the thread.

_goes off to read the other thread_

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/13 "2003-02-04T03:35:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Debaser \*  
> **Duck Duck Goose** , who said it was a suicide? The NYT article and the text of the actual chat room don’t tell the tale of a suicide but of an idiot who tries to impress everyone with his “high tolerance” of pills.

Well, his friend **Malkavia** did. I’d trust the reports of the people who knew him personally over some article in the NY Daily News.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/14 "2003-02-04T03:37:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Debaser \*  
> \*\* I see nothing that indicates this was an addict who couldn’t help himself. He did this to impress people, and that is a weakness of character and worthy of ridicule. Fuck him. If it makes you feel any better then: Fuck the people in the chat room too.  
> \*\*

You might want to be careful about saying things like this. There are people on this messageboard who cared about Brandon. Brandon was a deeply disturbed individual. Why does he elicit so much anger from you?

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irc-message-board-drug-overdose/152605/15 "2003-02-04T11:25:13Z")

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Thread closed at request of originator.
